Raven, you've nailed it. The idea economy has evaporated and it's now about execution. I remain open to new ideas, and am still on the hunt for the Killer iPhone App.

If I wasn't so highly motivated to execute on my own ideas, I could support myself on contract or consulting. The truth is right now, some of the best ideas are coming from developers themselves!

If you're feeling entrepreneurial, the Dollar App razor is a great way to bootstrap. Bring your idea down to one feature, work on it for just one month, and ship it for a dollar ($0.99). Use the money to hire others and do more.

Brilliant post. Thanks.

Raven's right on with the notice that development costs money - but I think it's worth pointing out that ideas for applications have been worth $0 for quite a number of years now. Coming out the tail end of the dot.com bust in 2001, it was and still is the ability to execute on an idea that has merit - wether it's iPhone development or knocking together a web application in PHP. The idea is just a multiplier to the effort - the effort itself is key and indispensable.

Raven, thanks again for taking the time to speak to me about the current state of affairs surrounding iPhone application development. Our conversation helped me put into perspective just where I needed to go on the design end. You're absolutely right about the current value of iPhone application ideas being equal to zero. But, with that said, restraints like those you've mentioned are an effective catalyst for redirecting energies toward broader approaches. What you helped me understand was that I had to find a larger audience for what my ideas meant relative to issues of sustainability and how our society deals with paratransit matters as a whole. Renewed with that understanding, I'm certain I can more clearly define my goals and, in doing, give greater depth to what had started out as little more than a simply notion. In situations like this, going back to the proverbial drawing board actually provides a chance to return greater user value at some point in the future.

It's always been about execution, not ideas. Ideas are a dime a dozen. It's figure out which ones will pay and which ones to develop and market. That's where real money is made.

Elia

This reminds me of the though I had the other day. If I were to start developing an iPhone app today I would not try to come up with a great new idea.

I'd scour the App Store for good ideas that were not well executed and go out and create a better implementation.

iPhone Apps are like early Mac/Windows apps. When there is just one choice for each good idea that app wins but as the market matures the companies that can execute best will win that segment of the market.

Yes, in the end it's always about execution, and not ideas. But, those who can execute, do not always have the best ideas, or insight in what makes a great app. Those who do have insight and have great ideas usually don't have the skills to execute. That's why great apps are rare, because great apps are made by people who have both skills, or work together with people who have the other set of skills. It is rare, though, that these two different kind of people come together to develop an app with a common goal.

The many bad apps out there tell me that there are a lot of pure programmers. They think that they can manage on their own. They cannot think outside their own box. Yet it takes someone special, with some vision and esthetic feeling to make something special and even revolutionary. Like there are script doctors for screenwriters, there should be something like UI and idea doctors for apps. And these doctors can come from many backgrounds. They don't have to be UI designers.

Interesting. I have only been charging $50 an hour for my iPhone consulting and contract work. How can I find some of these people willing to pay $100 an hour or more?

I've already got several apps up on the App Store and I've been a member of the iPhone beta developer program since April and a full time Mac developer for the last 10 years.

Excellent blog post. The best way to stretch your development dollars is to find an offshore development organization who has the necessary mobility platform design and development skills. They should also be willing to undertake proof of concepts and pilots for you to get applications developed quickly for the appstore, as well develop trust and confidence in the abilities of your offshore partner organization. I will be glad to help and advise anyone who is interested in the process to get this started.

Raghu

I find it hard to believe in this day and age (especially when looking at gas prices) that someone is surprised about the fact that the relationship of demand and supply dictate the price for goods and services. In other words: this is perfectly normal for *any* growing market (not just the iPhone) and IMHO really nothing to be surprised about... It's simply how competitive markets work.

--th

I seem to remember Joel on Software doing an article about this very topic, but as a general software development thing, not iPhone. I can't find the article, however. (Anyone?)

Like Gary said, though, I too would like to know where these $125 contracts are! I'm currently charging $55.

Great article Raven, however a few additional thoughts:

i) $30,000 as a starting price for an iPhone application doesn't seem expensive at all. I've spent the past decade working at and for mid-sized interactive agencies. Frankly, I can't recall a project [even a small application development project] that had a price tag near the 30k mark. Experienced and proven engineers, project managers, art directors all come with a pretty hefty price tag and usually don't spare any detail. If you find a team or developer that follows "best practices" such as sound development process that involves, R&D, information architecture, use cases, focus groups, Q&A, stress testing, unit testing, code reviews, and dare I say items such as version control, said developer or team is expected to be monetarily compensated for their experience and due diligence.

ii) For those who wonder how to increase your hourly rate or find clients willing to pay market-rate I'd suggest creating a extensive portfolio and make sure it gets exposure. If you indeed have the "skills" ensure the industry considers you an "expert." Writing articles and providing quotes to PR folks is a step in the right direction. This is a referral business -- make sure you are networking.

iii) Besides almost dead on agreeing with Raven's post [*note he's much more of an expert than me], I predict the cost for non-standalone iPhone development vastly exceeds the 30k mark. The reason being is that iPhone applications that are client server will require an additional level of effort with the possibility of a separate engineering team with skills suited to "back-end" development, deployment, and maintenance.

Even a cursory glance at history tells us that in 12 months time, we'll get paid the same as "normal" developers. Thank Apple for the pay increase but don't get used to it.

We do iPhone development at Amoph.com and do not have enough work at the moment. Maybe we need to advertise more.

Implementation is always going to be expensive, because that's where the real value is added to an idea. Ideas are cheap - but even a poor idea implemented well is worth more than a great idea implemented poorly....

...and if anybody else contacts you wanting iPhone development work at that rate, please feel free to send them my way (I had an app on the App store on day #1) ;-) !!

I have a great idea for an app and a little experience with iPhone app development but just haven't been able to dedicate the time and energy to it. That, and having next to zero graphics experience have kept me from pursuing my idea. There's currently no other app in the store that would compete with it either. I'm pretty sure it could sell at a $20-30 level. Competitors in other mobile markets are charging $50. I'd be interested in hearing from other experienced developers reading this that might be interested in partnering.

Winston, I'll partner with you; given the amount of time, energy and expertise you'll bring, I think a fair split would be 100% for me, 0% for you.

Or did you miss the point of the article?

You'll have a dud application without a decent idea AND execution. I think Derek Sivers sums up my thoughts perfectly: "ideas are just a multiplier of execution".

As iSlayer (and now BJango), we get about 5 "OMG, I have the best idea for an iPhone app/widget" emails a week. Thankfully, we have enough ideas of our own to keep us busy, so we usually thank the emailer and try not to find out what they're after (don't want to be accused of stealing in the unlikely chance we end up doing the same thing).

Ideas are mostly easy, it's the 100s of hours of development and the difficult decision making that follows where the real value is.

Multiplier of execution blog post:
http://www.oreillynet.com/onlamp/blog/2005/08/ideas_are_just_a_multiplier_of.html

Our iPhone apps: http://bjango.com/

"Developers rule! Ideas are ten a penny!"

It's actually the fleshing out and designing of ideas that makes great apps - the actual design of a complete user experience, one that works for normal people, that does the stuff they want to do, in ways they can understand and enjoy, with not one misunderstanding or confusion or jargon term along the way sabotaging the whole thing.

The actual programming - hey, there's a million of you monkeys out there. But in five years I've yet to meet *one* of you who has a clue about designing apps for *normal people*, rather than for yourselves.

Amanda

"Developers rule! Ideas are ten a penny!"
It's actually the fleshing out and designing of ideas that makes great apps

Agreed. But the thing is that the two are not mutually exclusive. iPhone developers; not code monkeys but good Cocoa developers that have a history of Mac programming, know that the code is the last thing to happen, and only after you've got your idea and implementation to go along with the grain of the API. It's a very zen thing.

And by the nature of indie Mac development, with companies of less than a handful, the developer must become a renaissance man. Take a look at Mike Lee, Scott Stevenson, Wil Shipley et al. They understand that only the very smallest part of making a good app happens with fingers on a keyboard.

And that's why a seasoned cocoa dev commands more than the hordes of gold-rush style contractors, and why they add so much more beyond an 'I've got an idea!'.

Raven, great post and I totally agree with this as we saw the exact same thing happen in the Ruby/Rails space in the last 2-3 years. Even today its tough to find good Rails programmers who know a thing or two about product development. iPhone developers are definitely going to be more scarce than this. At BetterLabs we have a core team for iPhone development and we incubate early stage product ideas and would love to talk to entrepreneurs to see if there is a fit.

Hi all,
I represent a China-based consultancy and we have a professional team who are able to turn your ideas into iPhone applications with their expertise. Frankly speaking, our engineers' experience may be a bit less than those who charge over $125/hour as Raven mentioned. But I believe they are surely capable to turn your ideas into applications. Our senior iPhone engineers usually have more than 3 years experience in Mac & Cocoa and just transitioned to iPhone once its SDK launched.
What people can gain from us is more than development. Our team do project management, design and quality assurance (including but not limiting to testing). Like Brian Jeremy Kupetz said, we have sound development processes involving R&D, architecture, use cases, risk management, QA, stress testing, unit testing, code reviews, version control, even change management. We continuously improve our processes to be more efficient because iPhone projects' term is usually shorter than that of regular software projects.
Also considering user experience is critical for iPhone app, we employ design expert experienced in mac to do user experience design. I believe this capability will also add much value to our service and worth our clients pay more than pure programming service.
And our team adopts 2 best practices for iPhone projects - iterative development and prototyping. We use prototype to reach agreement with clients on user experience and functionalities before we dive into concrete implementation.
Based in China, our charge rate would be very flexible. Even though, developers here don't need to worry about the competition at all. As Raven said, the demand for iPhone developers exceeds the supply and I don't see that changing anytime soon. And we are just the few companies in China who are capable to do iPhone projects. So just take it easy. :)
If people here ask me why we don't develop and ship to app store by ourselves, I would say we are not marketing experts and don't understand iPhone market in US and Europe.
I hope we can work with passionate entrepreneurs to create mutual success together. I really enjoy that feeling of success. Anyone interested pls drop me an email at:ming.zhou_at_roylead_dot_com
Our website is: www.roylead.com
Thanks for your patience..

Thanks for this post. These thoughts cover exactly the same thoughts we made. We started a branch of our company to make iphone projects. But it is quite difficult to convince the customers that developing of such a "tiny" app costs so much. We've heard some custormers speaking: "Our designer made it in two days with Flash!?!" So now we are focussing on our own projects for the app store as well. We are open for new projects or new ideas, but the transaction costs for convincing people of the potential of iphone apps are to high ...

Awesome post - definitely helps consolidate my ideas about this nascent industry. Also goes a little way to confirming that we're not mad developing iPhone apps for free; knowing that your income only comes from revenue-sharing certainly focuses you mind on only doing quality projects with quality teams!!!

There's more about the rev-sharing on my blog: http://jofarnold.com Won't name the company here as I need to save my shilling Karma for if we run out of money ;-)

As a developer I find that my limiting step is getting the graphics done, I just can't find graphics artists who are interested in iPhone size projects, they are snowed under dong larger projects. In my case I have four apps done and waiting for a graphics guy to finish. I pay cash, not participation in a timely fashion, money is not the problem.

I found it difficult to agree that iPhone developers are scarce.

Maybe because I never been in the position of a contractor or entrepreneur, as I'm a developer, and I see the iPhone developer communities are big.
There are many good developers and great app out there.

What's wrong with what I saw, compared to opinion in this post ?

I have a idea that may be simple to execute--currently it is a pain in the butt trying to organize all my applications (I have 8 screens of them)--I have tried several times ot organize them by usage (how many times I use the App and functionality (what the App does)--but this is way too laborious and time consuming.

What is needed is an application that makes it easier to organize applications (perhaps listing the Apps and allowing you to drag them where you want them placed).

I would love to develop programs for the iPhone--but I am a PC user :( I wish there was an SDK for PCs!)

I'm not sure that kind of app organization could be done through official SDK.

App organization currently could only be done through manual user input. If there's something hidden in the undocumented frameworks, I don't know about that.

Anyway just get over it, Windows is just not the platform for official development, for a device made by "Apple"

Though, you can install cygwin to use unofficial toolchain, but it's not that easy.

The students in the iphone boot camp NYC http://iphonebootcampnyc.com usually earn about $125/hour developing iPhone Apps although some get quite a bit more.

Compared to the going rate for other types of development it's fairly high due to far more demand than supply, as developing for the iPhone is difficult and there aren't that many developers who can handle it.

In this economy being an iPhone developer is the place to be right now.

Varying rates aren't just common in the iPhone world -- I have have met US-based sysadmins and web programmers, some of whom charge $150/hour and some who charge $30/hour. I suspect that iPhone rates are already drifting down into that range, and as other commenters have noted, the fact that you can build an iPhone app already doesn't mean you can instantly charge anyone $125/hour. I have come across a number of clients who turned us down because they found someone willing to build them an iPhone app for $3000 flat. Did they end up with a crappy, late app? Maybe, maybe not.

Even in our experience building mobile & social apps, we've found clients who have healthy budgets for whom we're a true bargain, while also finding clients with no capital looking for a $500 application. We've even gotten a few calls from offshore firms looking to outsource mobile development to us (we're in Portland, OR).

It's my belief that you can charge a lot per hour if 1) you are good, and 2) you can find clients willing and able to afford decent rates in exchange for reliable quality development.

#1 isn't always required, although if you can explain to your client that paying an experienced developer $100/hour for 10 hours of work is more effective than paying a junior developer $30/hour for 40 hours of work, then you're halfway there. Unfortunately, some clients only see the hourly rate (and not the total cost), while others have a certain budget or rate expectation already built in.

#2 is about networking, advertising, sales, careful client selection, and offering something worth the extra fee (because you're seen as an "expert" or have specialized skills). Getting a decent influx of clients and finding the ones that fit your offering is important. For us, we try to find clients that have established budgets and for whom on-time, quality, experienced, creative execution is worth the extra expense. It's no surprise that a few of our clients found us after being "burned" by other developers who were cheaper but either didn't deliver or went AWOL.

Also, I think #2 is sometimes difficult for developers, as it's full of soft skills, so a lot of excellent coders find themselves struggling to find clients willing to pay $50/hour while reading with some amazement about other programmers turning away work at $125/hour.

Wow this was a long comment -- I'll also put it up on the blog: http://www.developmentnow.com/blog

Great article. I'm also a programmer who have decided to go at it on my own instead of contracting out my skills. For me, even more than the money, it's the fun aspect of being able to sell my own ideas come to fruition as an iPhone application.

Nice Article. My question is if we can trust over seas developers say on oDesk that charge as low as $16/hour. Estimating marketing costs is what I'm stuck on now.

Ditto great article. The market should pay the experts a top rate. The problem with software development is everyone thinks they can do it, even people with no software experience whatsoever. It's a field crowded with amateurs. Imagine if college students built houses in their free time, thinking they could get rich quick! Funny that didn't happen during the housing bubble. Ideas without execution are worth $0.00. Always have been.

Value-added resellers (VARs) who are interested in iPhone application development have ample opportunities in the upcoming iPhone 3G and 2.0 version of the iPhone software.

If you want to develop either client/server or Web-based iPhone applications but don't have the skills or staff to do the work, you could partner with a local independent software vendor (ISV)

This San Francisco based iphone developers has done a great job.

http://ymedialabs.com/iphone-application-developer.htm

Thank you for the brilliant article. Actually I found it while thinking about the right equity stake we should take in the application we build on an equity basis.

Also I was rather surprised with the hourly rates mentioned. We are located in Eastern Europe (Belarus) have a track record building Iphone apps and one app of ours was even featured by Apple as a top app. The rates that we charge are $18/h. We welcome additional jobs as well since we have a big pool of resources onsite.

Hello,

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Hey Everyone! I made some really quick easy money with my iPhone apps on the app store. Those folks at Apple were pretty quick approving my iPhone applications. But now it's taking them a little longer, I'm not sure why. Anyway, if you have any questions, just email me: sam.shaw123@gmail.com, or call me: +1.847.380.4181. You can also visit my website at www.dreamworldsol.com

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The website is http://www.dreamworldsol.com

I am trying to find iphone developers to do something really tricky, capture and e-mail web history, like x3watch.com does for the mac. How do I find an expert to hire?

Hi Michael, you might want to get in touch with me for that. Please feel free to call me on +1-847-380-4181 or email me at sam.shaw123@gmail.com. You can also go to my website at http://www.dreamworldsol.com

Sam Shaw

My buddy and I have been creating Iphone application for a while. We are looking to make some more cash and we will work for cheaper than anyone else. We do all of the graphical user interface and GD work for free as well.

If you would like to discuss your application further please email: We ARE interested in equity deals!

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i am very worry about my iphone which is not working well and if i want to sale it then its price is very low in market.what should i do?

I think all these comments are very interesting, but as someone who thinks he has a brilliant iphone app idea and some money to have it developed, what could i expect it to be earn me if it were downloaded thousands of times. How do you earn money from the applications?

I have a great idea for an app. however it involves using bluetooth and will have to correlate with several other apps. that I will also have to create. I have no clue how to develop anything but minute rice so I am not even sure my idea will work as an app. or if I will have to contact someone at apple directly. And prior to doing that should I figure out copyright laws before I do that? What should I do?

This is a great post and really insightful.

We at Wirkle (www.wirkle.com) are a mobile software development company based out of New Delhi, India and specialize in iPhone development, infact, we were the one of the first companies in the New Delhi area to be registered with Apple as a certified developer and to have an app at the app-store for one of our clients.

As of date, we have built several iphone apps, also, our billing rates a significantly lower than those mentioned in the post above.

If you are looking for iphone developers to build an iphone app, please give us a ping at info@wirkle.com. We'd be happy to help.

cheers,
the Wirkle Team.
Web: www.wirkle.com
Email: info@wirkle.com

As an "idea guy" in the US currently developing a project in Eastern Europe I must say that everyone seems to be ignoring just how practical of a solution this can be. While there can be issues of a language barrier and time differences, I have managed to find a very competent and talented team for much less than US quotes. Granted this approach, to do it well, requires super thorough specs and documentation. If you want tips on how to find good developers abroad as well as legal and contractual tips I learned through the process visit my blog at http://www.icombatgame.com

Getting back to the idea versus execution argument though posted throughout these comments I would have to say that the ideal solution is somewhere in between. I think it is naive to think that a developer can push out apps and not follow through on marketing and have their apps do anything better than average (after all it is time consuming as hell to get your product known on the web). Similarly, dumping a half baked idea into a developer's lap is also not going to get anywhere. First off, if you can't be bothered to do the heavy lifting for your own idea (doing mock-ups and usage scenarios for example) then why would anyone else decide to work with you. The ideal scenario would be a partnership in my opinion, where both the "idea guy" and the developer work on what they are experienced and best at.

Great article!

I have also been contacted on a weekly basis with the "I have a great idea for the iPhone but do not know how to program" speech. I believe that there are occasions where it makes sense to partner up, but the non-programmer must bring something more to the table than an idea.

I wrote an extensive blog post about this topic here:

http://howtomakeiphoneapps.com/2009/02/dude-i-outsourced-my-iphone-app/

To Miguel -

Are those Eastern European iPhone rock stars you talk about from Apalon.com??

They released a kick-ass app already for me and are working on a number of new ideas too

Tim, I am working with a team in the Ukraine. I see Apalon is from Belarus...I did speak with a few very solid guys from there and think I would have chosen them second. I see Apalon did iGirl.

And Matt, I agree that the "idea person" should bring more to the table (money, marketing experience, design skills) but think there is quite a bit in terms of solving questions around execution that can be done without being a programmer. I think you are right people use the "not being a programmer" argument to get out of doing any of the heavy lifting around execution.

You should be able to make an application as a scale...using the sensitive screen to weight out grams, carots, etc...

Hi,
It is all understandable.
But what if I have many ideas, concerning new features and tools for mobile itself, which can be developed within application.
Whom I should contact to share them?

Sorry, previous was mistakable.

Hi,
It is all understandable.
But what if I have many ideas, concerning new features and tools for mobile itself, which can be developed within application.
Whom I should contact to share them?

Hi,
It is all understandable.
But what if I have many ideas, concerning new features and tools for mobile itself, which can NOT be developed within application.
Whom I should contact to share them?

Thank you for the excellent article. I would have probably been one of the thousands with the "I have a great idea but cant program" question and this article really put things in perspective.

I guess since all I have are ideas then I should just give up on trying to accomplish the goal of developing an iphone app. Ideas, really, are useless. Maybe all of us with ideas should just stop thinking all together. There is no one out there who will help us or value our ideas because they have their own ideas and no time for others. The value of ideas in this market are zero! ZERO! (WTF???)

I have read the whole entire article and all the comments to the blog, I am just an every day guy with some great ideas (I think). Now I am really lost, I have more than an idea for an application but something to change the actual phone forever. I have no clue to where to start and how do I explain to someone my idea to see if they like it, with out them stealing it? And do developers have that many ideas that they are too busy to partner with someone if the love the concept? Any help or advise would be helpful. This is not something simple as an application, I am going to need a company with experince and probably a few patients.
Gain48152@aol.com Keith 703-258-4178

I've had this idea for this invention that the iphone makes easier and now with the open borders on apps, the clear choice is through the iphone. This is just the launch pad to the next bigger idea. I need some help from an individual or company the can produce top of the line.

I've had this idea for this invention that the iphone makes easier and now with the open borders on apps, the clear choice is through the iphone. This is just the launch pad to the next bigger idea. I need some help from an individual or company the can produce a top of the line product.
info@agapelifenetworks.com

So your saying that even if we have an amazing idea for an application for the iphone. We can't create it unless we pay someone.

There is a widespread need for an Application for the iPhone for River Stages throughout the U.S. A great number of people work or are affected by the water levels in our Nations rivers.

There is a widespread need for an Application for the iPhone for River Stages throughout the U.S. A great number of people work or are affected by the water levels in our Nations rivers.

Yea, I have a great app idea, but its worthless, because I don't know how to execute it, so I'm trying to learn Cocoa now, and Obj. C. I wonder how hard those are to learn?

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I'm one of the "I have an idea" guys with zero development experience *dodges rotten tomatoes*. But I've recently reached out to one of my developer friends about an app idea, and I think I actually used that exact phrase, "I've got an idea." He stays pretty busy, but we're set to meet next week.

First, I'm trying to learn whether someone like me, a complete developer novice, can learn Cocoa and Objective-C. The app I want to develop is relatively simple and has almost no graphics, and there are zero movable graphics.

Is it something a novice with little development experience can learn? Do you need years of training? Do you need a Mac? If so, will a Macbook Pro suffice? I know my way around a computer and have a general design sense....but I fully realize there is much more to the development process.

I appreciate any help you guys can provide. Very useful article, by the way. Thanks.

Great article, I am Creative Director for a marketing agency…been creating for over 25 years. I have read this post on “zero value ideas” and developing skill value. Maybe I am missing something? Since when are technical skills more valuable then ideas? Nonsense! Where does one come off demeaning “ideas”! concepts are the core ingredient to any endeavor, ideas or should I say great ideas far exceed developing or code skills on any level, on this planet anyway. “Ideas” will always pay more. I think some of these posts tend to generalize the word “ideas” and dilute the power and significance. “Thinkers” are far more valuable than on hands production skills…even if it’s highly skilled. Yes, there are poor ideas and there are cliché ideas and frankly just bad ideas in this over polluted communications field…the same can be said about any profession, there are bad, good, medioca, and brilliant. Smart entrepreneurs know the value of “concept” and will always find means to develop his or her idea, regardless if you’re clueless about CODE. There is no shortage of production skills only shortage of great minds. I can have a brilliant idea, only for some production guru to (F-U) it’s execution. Today we tend to focus greatly on technical skills; schools tend to teach technical skills beyond “conceptual skills”. Students graduate having technical software knowledge but lack creativity. It’s this word “creativity” or “ideas” that should be put on a pedestal. If you have skills in more than one capacity, then granted you are truly valuable. Take a look at the web world, developers started producing websites solely on their own. What has this taught us? lack of design and aesthetics, end result, poor website design or a site that looks like a “template”. I just want to say whatever your strength… you will always need third parties..a third eye. Anyone going around saying ideas are a dime a dozen and developers rule, is just naïve or inexperienced in the market. Without ideas there is no need for developers. (ideas are powerful they can shape and change the world!) don’t let anyone fool you.

Hi! Well, I'm one of those insignificant people with an idea and no know-how. That said, it's a GREAT idea and could be very lucrative. While I'm willing to invest some capital, I'd want to partner up with an app-developer who'd get a piece of the large pie, thus giving him (her) impetus to work passionately on executing my concept.

I need someone who can develop an app with touch screen capabilities and graphics...

If you're interested and have the skill sets and/or a great portfolio, please contact me at IdeaFete-at-gmail-dot-com

Thank you,
Jenny

if i have the money to create one who do i need to talk to about getting it done?

I have a good idea for an APP and would like to work with a developer on creating the APP.

Please contact me at LSUjv20@gmail.com

Great post and blog! Kosta, I agree with you! I think ideas are definitely just as valuable as implementation. The post that are jacking up rates are definitely developers inflated the market. 100-150 per hr that is crazy and I would rather sit on my idea and do my research before I make a wrong decision and partner up with some hack. Good thing my wife is in IT project management and I can prevent myself from being swindled. I've booked mark all the App development websites and offshore companies to do some further research. I've got the expertise in marketing and some funds to bring it to market but there's no way I'm paying 30,000!

Tyler

I guess I'm pretty much screwed then... From what I've been reading, even if you had a killer idea for an iPhone app...which in my opinion, I do. I wouldn't be able to ever see it in the app store. Based on whay you guys are saying and this damn economy, I don't have the money for engineers and software developers. I've had this idea 15 years ago and was trying to get funding to "build" a protoype, but never got enough money or programming expertise to do it. I also went to 10's of stores (I won't tell what kind) to see if they would be interested in selling my idea once I had massed produced it and ALL of them...I mean ALL of them said, "if you can get this thing built, it'll fly off the shelves". But, I gave up because I couldn't get the funding to get it done. After 15 years, along comes the iPhone...Wah-Lah. An epiphany...!!! Why not use my idea, drawings and research to put it into a software only application for the iPhone. The perfect solution...!!!...I didn't have to build anything, program it or burn it into an eprom. But...after I read these articles, I thought, here we go...possible thoughts and dreams of riches...evaporated...once again. Thanks guys for blowing up my dream. It's always about money and never about fulfilling a golden opportunity. My idea is not a game, its about a pastime. Its about putting an application that people can use as a tool for that pastime. If there's anyone out there willing to dream like me and help me build this unique application and get it to market, we will sell millions, if not billions of downloads. Ahhh dreams...aren't they wonderful..??? Oh well...I guess I'll try the college route. Maybe there's a young Bill Gates out there looking to make a name for himself.

Hi there,

Thanks for the info, it has been fairly educational.

I have an idea that will change the iphone/pod forever. I really would like to discuss this further as ive been thinking about it for a while but cant motivate myself to find out who to contact!

drop me an e-mail d_h_allan@hotmail.com

Bigbobv we could team up...I have financial backing and reasonable developer. let me know if you want to chat...

Are people still getting $125 an hour to develop applications ?

How would one go about becoming an APP Developer? Im based in Melbourne Australia - hurricanedane@gmail.com

Why don't you upload your ideas at www.auctionurideas.com?

I love my iPhone but iPhone will never be complete without video recording. people who unlock the iphone and use it with tmobile are recording video!!!
I am very unsatisfied with apple and ATT about this.
something must be done.

WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEMAND THIS!
PAYING TON OF MONEY FOR CRAPPY, STATIC ATT SERVICE
in chicago

raise your voice
join me

IWMV (I WANT MY VIDEO)

If the end goal is to make money... go day trade. Less Risk, mo' money.

I am looking for iPhone app developer who has experience developing iPhone apps dealing with images and database searching.

We have an existing prototype, and I have coding and database experience in non-Mac languages. If you are interested, please contact me via email: jeannie.stamberger@gmail.com

Cheers,
Jeannie

I agree Gokhan. I found a site where you can download an unlimited amount of iPhone apps for like 50 bucks. I think they have a discount going right now and its only 35 bucks. Crazy huh?! Just pay the the one time fee and you can download as many apps as you want forever. This is the site.
www.smartappsdownloader.com/78848

Fascinating reading. I happen to be one of those people who's both tech-literate and artistic. I have created a Keynote sample of my app idea's possible graphics, so it's beyond "just" an idea. Ideas do need execution, but technicians often need creativity. I love the offshore options... there's no monopoly on US brainpower! Just how hard is cocoa?

I'm guilty like half of the posters on the blog. I'VE GOT A GREAT IDEA for a Cell Phone APP in general and the idea goes a little further as a web-site app. I've tried to learn how to design an app but I'm not very tech savy and really don't know where to start, anyone willing to work together on an app I've got a really good idea for an app, that far surpasses the iphone and can earn a constant revenue monthly. I've already emailed some of the foreign posters here to know there rates or if they work deals. Thanks for the informative post, anyone willing to work together can email me at fharripaul@gmail.com

If your looking for a simple way to get a iPhone application for your blog or business I found Rhino Apps really useful. http://www.RhinoApps.com. They take your RSS feed and create an iPhone application around it. You design it with your own custom colors and logos. Worth taking a look at.

If you have great ideas for websites rather than iPhone apps, you might want to check out www.othernet.com (I built the site).

Developers too. The way I structured the site is that profits are shared between those with ideas, the architects who plan out those ideas and the builders who build the ideas.

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Hey I have a great idea and really hope I can make it happen while the iPhone market is still hot, the idea I thought of would b in high demand and there is nothing like it out right now

Great post! i Phone applications can really make your day, especially when boredom gets you:)

If you are seriously interested in an Iphone App, please contact me at stevel@sagarsoft.net and we will discuss different options. We are an onshore/offshore developer that is interested in developmnet options. Regards,Steve

Iphone Application Development Center - A right place to develop iphone applications in India.

This is a fascinating comment thread and it keeps turning up in searches. It kind of sums up customer expectations you run into when doing iPhone development. That said I'm curious to know the following and I think a small segment of the readers will get exactly what I mean. Where do the grown ups look for iPhone contracts?

I just had a question and don't know were to start.. I was wondering were or who do I contact with marketing ideas... Like if I have an idea for a comercial or advertising,??

Things have changed on the app store since this post was originally written. Last year, everyone would simply produce their own apps and it was a gold-rush. Now, with 50,000+ apps on the store indy developer are having a more difficult time getting noticed. The $150/hr + price point for US developers time seems unrealistic to me.

Off-shoring - a friend of mine successfully sent his development work overseas and essentially got a decent iPhone app made for $5,000 or so and it took about 6 weeks. This is the reality of the market most of us will be competing in these days.

All that being said - it could be the time for idea people who have really big ideas (not just the next gold score keeper app) to partner up with technical people. What could be fair is if you agree to split equity and make the company a real startup.

If not, then you will need to consider hiring programmers to implement your ideas.

I have a new APP idea that I have discussed with the close masses. It will be a hit!
Looking for a developer. Please contact me. frantz502@insightbb.com

In regards to my last post on here we have finally got out development company up and running http://www.zzaar.com and like I said before, we are almost half the price cheaper than you will find anywhere else and will beat any major competitors price. Please take a look at our website for more details..

I have helped several clients to develop applicatins on iPhone. If you think you have great idea, I will be happy to partner with you. Contact me to discuss more.

All this time later and thus post is still highly relevant. Why work with people who don't appreciate the development cycle and consider themselves "developers" without having the experience to back it up? Over the years I've personally witnessed hundreds of entrepreneurs who have ideas, but clearly lack either the capital of (a) willingness to expend effort or (b) find funding in order to make things really happen for themselves. You absolutely cannot own a business or venture and act like an employee! It's very important to commit to the project 150% of your blood, sweat and tears in order to own it. So many websites claim to offer iPhone development--on HTML documents that are completely incompatible with the iPhone! So many others are ready to pay for development--but expect that $1000 per month of effort is an acceptible fee. If you have an idea and are clearly motivated to see it through, for the sake of us developers, please either learn the necessary languages yourself, or confirm your funding before starting on an ambitious project with a 3rd party who's attempting to fulfill your wishes as best they can--it'll save both parties a lot of rework. Also, before you start developing an app yourself, check to see if something better exists already. There's already a really decent web browser, for example, why bother to port your own if your idea isn't as robust as Apple's unbuilt Safari browser, which is free to the enduser?

Isn't it at all possible go to a iphone application developers and straight up sell the all rights to your idea up front for cash. I mean a good developer would know right away the value of your iphone application, Wouldn't he? If he likes it sell it to him for whatever he offers. $120-$1200

What would be really cool if someone came out with a iphone app developer kit.

I figured I would give my 2 cents into this conversation. I by profession am an Attorney. I had some great ideas for some iPhone apps. I tried learning myself the SDK, and it was way over my head. I contacted some of my friends who were developers but they didn't have time to learn the SDK either. A friend recommended an interesting site called www.iphoneappcoder.com which I went to got a bit educated in finding an iphone app developer and then after submitting my information, I got 3 calls from qualified iPhone app developers living in the US. I was able to finally bring my idea to reality. Interesting enough, one of my apps is bringing me half of my attorney salary... go figure....

Miami-based design & marketing firm looking for an iphone app developer ASAP

Please email your contact info and work samples to apps@azucamiami.com

thx

i have a pretty good idea for an future app. i just need the right developer to make this happen. i myself have no idea what to do with my idea maybe someone will.

look at www.your-apps.com, maybe they can help

Great article and a lot of great comments. I'm another "idea" guy. I know my ideas are great because I've seen them make other people money. For instance, around 1995 when I had my first computer and found out that through the Modem I could call my friend in another state and not incurred in any out of state rates from the phone company, I thought, "someone should develop a computer-internet based phone", of course, didn't do anything about it and eventually came Vonage. Same thing has happened with tons of ideas I've had. I now realize that the same ideas come to us humans, and is for the ones who actually take the initiative to develop them who make the money. (sarcasm). Anyways, I used to be a AutCAD drafter and am now a DJ (go figure), my wife is a NP, so now I have tons of ideas both from her (medical field - these people are willing to pay for a great app) and from my DJ'ing experience. I see tons of apps out there for people to "play" as a DJ, but none that will actually make a DJ's job better. I'm not talking about "sound tools" or "mixers" but in other areas (will keep it to myself for now).

Also I believe that Kosta didn't get the point of the article. This article isn't saying that ALL ideas are worth ZERO. It's saying that in the App world, for right now, there's MORE ideas than there are GREAT developers, which brings the ideas' prices way down to zero. There's a difference.

If I misunderstood Kosta, then someone can tell me who is willing to PAY me upfront for my great ideas.

Anyways, my goal is to learn to make my own apps and DJ on the side.

I have a good idea for an App - actually an idea to improve some that are out there but are cra_.

I have a little money to invest in the idea, but I have NO computer skills. How can I find someone who might be interested in going in on this with me?
mrs.bob@gmail.com

hi,
you can also post your ideas here http://www.your-apps.com/en/index.php?navid=2

i don't know if its any good - but check out APPwizzard iPhone Development Suite... looks like a great solution for people like me looking to make an app on the cheap... i'm looking to create a website first using WIX, then pulling its content to create an app.

Possible winner

I have both the development background and the creativity to execute on great iPhone ideas. I have recently started work to pull a group of developers, marketing experts and technologists together to build mind-share around the iPhone Application Marketplace.

If you have an iPhone App idea with no outlet and nowhere to turn. Feel free to join our FB group. We will be happy to guide you in the right direction. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=173092132512

The marketplace for applications has become so filled with poorly executed apps that its becoming hard to rise above the noise...

Its akin to all the terrible websites that exploded onto the internet back in 1998. Lots of experimental ideas with no real substance. The trend will be toward more and more advanced applications but the timeline will be much shorter in this cycle than it was for the web.

I truly believe that we are at the beginning of a shift in computing and there will be huge success for those that take the time to understand it.

I have a great iPhone app idea. I have searched the app store and there is nothing like it. The idea is simple in nature and ultimately seems easy to create. However, I am not good with computer software and wouldn't know where to begin. With that said, I am in the process of applying for a copyright/trademark to see what my options are without having the idea stolen. If someone has the information and is willing to advise/help email me at agsb05@gmail.com

Thanks for sharing~

I have an idea for the iphone and I would assume it has to be an app, however I think the bigger money in this specific app is cornering a market for future iphone sales becuase it has the capability of performing a task that no phone on the market can do right now and all that would be needed is an internet connection and way of loging into software that is already owned on the iphone's owners personal pc. I truly do believe if there is a way of performing this idea not only would current iphone owners use this application, but it would ultimately make every small business owner purcahse an iphone for this feature. I truly do think this goes well beyond making a game, or tracking your friends based on where their phone is located, etc. I'd love to know who I could actually talk to about the idea to see if it is something that can logically be done. if anyone has any suggestions on who I can talk to about this please email mark.johnson@ljtcpa.com

I came across a company called MEDL Mobile (www.medlmobile.com) whose philosophy seems to be … you (the public) give us your iPhone app ideas … AND IF THEY’RE GOOD ENOUGH … we’ll develop them, publish them to the app store … AND … give you 25% of the profits.

They even developed an app that makes it easy for you to do that … checkout the AppIncubator in the iTunes app store (or just submit your idea through their website).

They have already released “Problem Halved” a social networking app that came from a bin/trash collector called Rob Shoesmith from Coventry, UK … Boxhead (Zombie Wars) for the iPhone, yes that well known iconic game from Sean T Cooper … to be honest there’s too many to mention and the list keeps growing!!!

Your app idea is going to have to be really special in order to grab their attention …

I noticed that their latest release is out today … (Mall Maps – You Are Here) which was submitted by Shayne Faerber, Naples, FL.

I have suggested about 12 apps to MEDL Mobile … half have been rejected either because they already exist in one form or another, or they weren’t technically feasible, or were suggested by someone else prior to me suggesting them, or they were just bad ideas.

However, that still leaves me with 6 ideas in MEDL’s melting pot … follow me on Twitter @AlanClark5 and see if one of my ideas gets developed …

an interesting article "Is it possible to earn on medical apps for iPhone?"
http://iphonemedicalapps.com/?p=330

i don't have an iphone so i dont even know if this kind of app. is already out there but if it isn't i think its completely necessary! An app. that works with poison control- that shows what to do and everything you'd need to know about-- if you child injects poison berries, chemicals etc!

Highly recomended this post-very informative-I have to take a note of this.

Honestly, I disagree with that notion altogether. Especially with sites such as elance. You can outsource the development of your iphone. Like always since we live in the US were always going to demand top dollar for any activity,function or service. I got a firm working on both of my iphone apps and will bring them to the market early first quarter of 2010 all for under 10k. Secondly the majority of the apps out there in my opinion are obsolete and serve no true purpose. People just create iphone apps on a whim without doing any real research on the market or gaming trends. I'm going to change the indie app market entirely with both of my apps, simply because there's nothing remotely close to what I've created.Secondly, the majority of iphone app developers really have no clue about marketing, just creating an app and crossing your fingers really isn't going to make your app to sell. It's like any other product just like if you were a reording artist you have to promote your album.

Interesting thoughts, views and experiences shared!! Wonder how is the valuation of an iphone application done by the purpose it serves or utility it gives especially during the times when there is no sector specific iphone application?

Wish there was an application that used a or several reverse address lookups, coupled with GPS and mapping so when you drive along a highway, the iphone tells you who lives along the route. Neat idea.

Great place to find iphone developers is http://www.PhoneFreelancer.com - its like a reverse auction but for iphone apps. You post your idea, and developers bid their quote. If you like one you pick a winner and get your app made! Its free too!

When you outsource to India, you get what you pay for, which is a piece of garbage app. Also, unless you are writing some shovelware apps, anything complicated and people in India are lost. For example, will your app require heavy math or maybe advanced signal processing? Good luck with the boneheads in Inida, you won't find the talent! Want to make a fart app, then India is your friend.

I have an app that I know will sell billions of dollars. I know exactaly what I want and how I want to market it. The only thing I dont know is how to make it or whom to talk to. Send me an e-mail if you feel you can help. Thanks in advance!
drjoycleveland@yahoo.com

What about www.appswell.com ? It's like American Idol for iPhone apps. Submit your idea, the community votes, and selected winners get paid $1000, plus a share of the revenue.

Hi,

Answering to Joe, I think you gave your project in the wrong hands. There are some decent mobile app developers out there in India. I have experience working with people from across the globe for mobile apps, the major problem that i see is of UI. The guys in India are sometime not able to deliver on that front otherwise on the coding front the deliver well. So i normally suggest my clients to either hire a good UI designer of there choice and kind of make a team. This way the desired results are achieved. But of-course that attracts investment but the end result is amazing. Its all about hiring people for what they are good at. Maybe this model can work out with you. Just a humble suggestion.

What if there was a middle man between those who have the ideas and the submission process to Apple?
According to the Apple website, in order to submit an idea for a new application, you must first develop the application in full yourself. If a new company, who works with Apple as a "development and consulting" company to help those who have ideas without the means to actually turn them into reality, at no expense!! were to be created..wouldnt that be something of interest to those who are struggling to get their ideas heard? This company would offer a cash compensation for anyone's fresh ideas. The process would involve submitting your idea to this company. They would then take your idea into consideration, research if it would be sucessful( with help from a connection at Apple), and get back to you within a few weeks, either excepting or rejecting your idea. ( If they reject your idea, and have already consulted Apple, you have not wasted your time on something that would not be sucessful). If accepted, the application would then be developed through a team software engineers and graphic designers. The final product would then be pitched to Apple. Apple then buys it from the company. A percentage of how much they pay the company for the finished application goes to the inventor, and the rest to the company.

If there was a company such as this, do you think it solve a lot of problems for that people with creative ideas and no way of developing them?

They are recieving a compensation for an idea, and at this point, the company is the only actor with any risk at hand. If the application is sold to Apple, the sucess is in the hands of both the company and inventor of the idea. If the application fails, it is soley the company's downfall, and the client walks away with the initial compensation for the idea.

Any thoughts??
Lets get your ideas out there!

i have a super security app for the iphone but its not just an app, its an app plus a device to go with it which is( you have heard it before) a sure thing and has a great (million +) number of potential buyers, but i cannot get in touch with apple directly to propose it to them. has any one any ideas how to proceed.

As a developer of iPhone apps that's been around for a while, we've got a good handle on what many people are looking for. If you've never done any software development before, it can be hard to understand some of what needs to be done. We take a client first approach and guide them through the process.

We're not the kind of company that tries to trick you into 'royalty' deals or try to take equity out of your company. We're a work-for-hire company that provides fixed cost projects at a competitive rates with quality solutions.

Turning an idea into an app can be challenging; we're happy to help!

i have hundreds of ideas some i have done research on discovering they could make a lot of money but have no money and have no knowhow of finding anyone to make them but if any one is interested i would sell the ideas or even go 50%of the royalties or something along the lines of that if they were interested in creating the application....

A poster above said they'd work for $12/hour. Please don't. I understand thier sentiment. It can be hard to get going when starting out, but you can make that much money working as a "non skilled worker".

Many of us spend years to learn our craft, and placing the price so low devalues us all. It is what happened in the website boom of the early 2000s. It got so that one couldn't earn a living doing it anymore.

Also, I can tell you from experience, that the lower you charge, the less a client will respect you. This might sound unimportant, but believe me, it matters a great deal.

Also, clients who are unwilling to pay more are usually the most demanding, and difficult to work for.

If you hang on a little, and find someone who is willing to pay a little more, everyone benefits, and you will be happier.

If you write an app no matter how small, and put it on the Store, you become a "published programmer", and people will know you are capable. You should then be able to command the same prices as everyone else.

I wish you lots of luck in your future endeavours. If you still choose to work for $12 that's your choice, but please keep this in mind.

Excellent post - love how after 1.5 years, this post is still very relevant. Excellent programmers will always command a premium for their services. What can take a seasoned programmer 1 hour at $200/hour to do the job might take another one 12 hours at $15/hour.

So what if i have an Idea for an Iphone App?? can someone guide me on what to do? it a'int a cheap idea nor a game... Its crazy and will generate enough money to make a few of us very happy. Any help contact me on my email.

I would agree with AStone, iphone app development really isn't all that different from the thousands of people with a startup idea every year who cheap out on a developer and wind up with a product they are unhappy with. Development isn't the cost, it's the process, the research and support you really have to pay for and long term will make the difference of selling your app for $.99 with crap reviews or $10 with great reviews. Just as I'd be willing to pay for a good web developer, I'd be willing to pay a little extra for a good mobile developer. Appiction, out of Austin TX, is one with a great process. They were at SXSW this year promotion the steps they take in app development and , surprise, a lot of them start before you ever begin developing.

I am not someone who has the ability to development an application but I know of one that most everyone with an i phone would use and i have not seen it on the market anywhere - if anyone has the ability and would like to team up with me -
chrisgorton@mac.com I am a registered nurse app's arent my thing

Hey dudes Iv got an idea 4 an app that could be cool if anyone wants to make it, howbout a BBC bitesized app 4 kids struggling with revision they just pull out their iPhone and start

if app developers are so creative and as this blog suggest really not in need of ideas why are there so much variation of the same game being offered by multiple developers , think about this there are about 19 different soduku games out there...lmoa..lol..it seem to me as if too many developers believe there own hype they buy the silly argument that there is "no shortage of great iphone ideas...lol...after believing that we end up having 19 different Sodukus and counting ...lol..are ideas are out there but many developers just listen to the repetitive junk that they want to hear cuz they might just be working on the same thing

Its now 2010 and I am 40 years of age I have an IPhone for 3 months now and have played nearly every game available on the iphone, now to be honest 30 years ago I got my first portable video game that I could play anywhere (a simple space invaders game) now comimg from an IT Tech/ Development/ Testing and Project Management background I can see how developers think they rule and can demand these type of payments!! but unfortunatley developers ideas do not and never have and never will supply the market place with Apps that the pulic want. This market place will be filled by a different kind of thinker and fortunatley thats what makes the world go round so until someone grabs this Apps development by the balls and shows them the way to go then I may aswell get my 30 year portable space invader game out cause there is nothing extra ordinary about the games on the iPhone. Sorry developers most of your big heads is not because you have great ideas!! As the same ideas where around 30 years ago!!

I want someone to give me ideas on how I can get this app prosses going. Gots some great ideas, good ideas aren't good if not developed... armandodhm87@yahoo.com

idroid

these are all well and very good ,but if your like me and got your own killer app but no cash to do anything about it ,what do you do ,shelve it forever well heres the ultimate apps for that.like a blank page and build your own youve seen the thing i mean blank boxes and you fill them in and the apps comes out the other end...BUT i want to make my own apps

Hi,

We area California based inhouse iPhone developers. Send us an email if you want to build a killer app. We specialize in Enterprise apps and also make free or paid apps.

Thanks for your time

The market for these iphone apps is just starting to grow now this is gonna be a growing market for a long time. Who ever has the right ideas and financial backing now will make it BIG!!!

i got an idea if anyone wants to make it- its a game in the form of "telephone" or "operator"- where you tell someone a phrase and pass it along to friends to see how messed up it gets the further its gossiped? with this game, you would log in, and a random text message would generate and be shown to you for about 3 seconds. you have to memorize it best you can, and it gets texted randomly to another person with the app, and you wont get a text unless the program is running.

you are so right, ideas only ideas. i belong to you said well-financed but less knokledge about apple store operation senario. i know there is something but do not know how to do it. if someone know more please help me out via bizcheers@gmail.com, . thanks in advance

I have an idea of getting people connected with their political icons. If anyone is interested, give me a shout.

I have an idea for a killer app. Unfortunately I do not have the cash to hire programmers nor do I have the skills. But perhaps someone can tell me the best ways to learn programming for iphone apps. There are lots of books like "Cocoa for dummies", but wich one is the best and what is a must-learn for developing Iphone apps? Thank you for your time and help. With best regards from Germany, Kai

I am sorry, thought my Email would be published in the article above. --> dafazz@web.de

I will have to disagree with the author. I wouldn't have disagreed if it was still 2008, but we are in 2010 right now and the penetration of iPhone developers is getting deeper and deeper. One quick way for me to tell this is when Students in my country "india" start thinking about a platform as their 'best' bet of getting a job. and currently there are students who are interested.
I will not say that the students are a good way to go if you have a good idea, just that these students are encouraged by successful businesses offering these services and are pretty good at what they do.
On a personal note i have seen coders charging about $15-25 an hour nowadays and the "ideators" are still struggling. which only means that the ideators are never willing to "risk" on their own idea. if it was 2008 and development rate of say $200/hr, they would have had a good chance of making big bucks back then with very little competition!

As a side note, people who are "really interested" in bringing their ideas to life, let me know,
take care

I have developed an iPhone App and I wanted to test it before its release. The App testing at http://www.testing4success.com/iphoneapptesting.html looks good, so just wondering if anyone else has tried it, or if they have an iPhone App testing company they could recommend.

My App is quite complex, and so I do not want to risk testing it myself.

I can tell most of you are developers. Good ideas are as necessary as good developing skills. If you don't know deeply the needs of your target market, how are you going to develop a good app?
Just because you have your skills it doesn't mean that's all you need. In the end, if the app doesn't solve a problem, satisfy a need, etc. no amount of good coding will make it work. period!!!
Don't overestimate the importance of your skills; skills are important but there is more than that to make a worthwhile app.

Hi,
This is Giridhar, i had developed a new single board game in javascript that works in browser. Actually i want that game to be recoded to IPhone Game. I dont have any resources to develop. So i want to sell my game logic to any development team and i can work with the team like explaining the logics and testing the game logic and all.

And also i want to know, what cost i should fix for it. If any one interested to buy, contact me through mail samanth.53@gmail.com. This game is new one, new logic and new game rules.

i have a great idea. its called the Credit Card App. you can shop on your iphone and use your credit card app to pay for it. easy and simple.

Thats a great article.In order to be a successful iPhone app developer, you have to make a great app and then market that great app. That is much easier said than done.
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If you have an App project check out www.apptank.com . It just launched yesterday and is a site for people and businesses with app projects to find developers looking for their next project to develop. They cover smartphone apps and web apps. So if you have a project and are looking for a developer sign up and post your project (it's FREE). Likewise, if you are a developer looking for some projects, sign-up and find your next app project to work on!

www.apptank.com

There are a couple of great websites around that will help you find a developer for a mobile app project. Try http://androidappdevelopers.net, or http://iphoneappdevelopers.com. Both websites take your information and match you with three developers that will bid on your app project. Seems like a pretty good concept.

We have had a couple of apps developed through http://momentummobile.com. They did a great job, and the rates were pretty reasonable for a US based development company

Iphone4 should take there plan down that's too much money to b paying and $10 if u go over your data. This phone is like a car note

there should be an application where people can check them selfs how they would look like with a new hair style or new hair cut.

I came across this old blog post while searching out a few terms on the internet. I was amazed at some of the comments and realizing how much times has changed since this post. I also noticed no more blog posts after 2009. I am curious as to what you are doing now?? I am an app developer and currently looking for great ideas to develop but I pay for the ideas people submit that is how I cam across this site.

Just sat down at my computer and almost used the my iPod that is connected to my computer like a mouse. That made me think, what if you could create an app that uses camera movement or movement of the iPod to control a computer mouse? I myself don't have the programming skills to create such and app but maybe someone more advanced could figure it out.

Cheers

Dan

You can all prototype your own app using JustProto. Do you remember/know Pennys idea for an app in TBBT? ProjectShoe prototype made with JustProto http://bit.ly/ejjU4o :) then it's just a matter of finding someone who will make your prototype a running app.

I'm so over ANY Apple products and this why I went Android instead of the iPhone!

Android all the way!

how about answering my email and fixing your book list app? or refunding my money.

I've got some good ideas for apps, time to get to work!