Why eBay Sucks
I sold some stuff on eBay for the first time. When I received the bill, I signed up for it to be paid automatically via my PayPal account. Life's great, eh?
Not so fast. A month later, eBay hits me with late fees and puts my eBay account on hold. Turns out, they didn't debit PayPal automatically as I'd asked them to. Instead, I was supposed to divine that auto-pay works only for invoices received after auto-pay is set up.
You might say that is predictable. In fact, that is how my bank works. When I sign up for e-bills or auto-pay, my bank warns that it might not kick in right away and that I should pay manually for the next billing cycle.
So here is my defense:
eBay and PayPal are part of the same company. Someone should be able to figure this out.
Not convinced? Fine, either was I. So when I first signed up for auto-pay, I asked eBay customer service when my account would be debited. They said it would happen in 5 or 10 days. They mentioned nothing about it *not* happening in the first billing cycle. Obviously, I was asking about that because people who had been using the service for more than a month wouldn't be asking the question!
Still not convinced? Fine, you're a skeptic. So am I. So when I didn't notice a debit (shortly before the payment was due--30 days after the invoice was sent), I again contacted customer support at eBay. Should I pay manually, I asked? No, they said, that would just result in a double payment and confuse everyone.
Okay, so I'm a lunatic raging against the machine, right? No, nothing of the sort. I calmly contacted customer service, asked them to remove the late fee and reinstate my account. Everyone makes mistakes, and they were entitled to a second chance.
Instead, they gave me the runaround through 10 emails, refusing to credit (drum roll please....) 8 cents! They insisted that because I wouldn't accept blame for their systems' limitations that I somehow did not understand them. The coup de grace (sp?) was their customer service rep (ironically named "Grace") chastising me to make sure I wouldn't let this happen again in the future.
So to summarize, eBay customer service sucks even worse than their software.
Can anyone recommend a better auction site with a liquid market in BrixWear T-shirts?
Give me your eBay horror stories.
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Last Christmas, I bought what I thought was a 1910 dime converted into a tie tack. That is how it was described.
I ordered this as a Christmas gift to my husband. When it came in the mail, I looked at it, and thought how nice it was, and gave a feedback that said the seller was excellent and I liked the tie tack.
Christmas Day, my hubby opened the gift and I could tell he was a little crestfallen. I said what's wrong, and he said, this is plastic. He said I know this because I have collected coins for years and because I used a router on a 1910 dime myself one time and was going to turn it into a tie tack.
I contacted the seller and long story short, they simply WOULD NOT ADMIT that the dime was plastic. I paid $25.00 plus shipping for this tie tack.
I contacted ebay and the seller through the proper channels, several times, but they never would hear me out and refund my money.
So now we're stuck with a tacky plastic tie tack and I'm out about $30.00. I didn't know it was plastic until my husband told me and showed me why he knew it was plastic.
I've thought of selling my art on ebay, but after reading what you guys have to say, I think I'll try Craig's List or ETSY.
Thanks for hearing me out.
Beth Davis
eBay has got have the worst customer service on the net. There's no doubt that their email service system is not based in the U.S. because the people answering the email never answer what your asking. They simply don't understand English.
So terrible!
I just spent the last hour reading so many intertesting comments on why Ebay really foes suck. I have been with Ebay since 1998 Oct and with very little problems. I did one time have 23 auctions shut down by Ebay because I had the wording "Cash at your own risk" for payment option. I had been using this statement for 8 years...then some yahoo decides to shut them all down because was not allowed as payment. Wow..what a pain in the azz it was redoing every auction again to suit the Draconian Ebay dictators. Recently though..I have found Ebay to be a pain with all there new so called features..which are all geared towards the powers seller and not the 100,000's non power seller's. There just another disgusting self serving company looking to satisfy the shareholders and not the sellers. And how about this....I shouldn't tell this..but you can seriously rip off a seller via PAYPAL refunds. My sister sold an item on Ebay to a new bidder for $122us...there was no tracking info, or registered mail..since it would be to much for most biddder's to pay. She sent the item...and they did get it, but they complained to PAYPAL that they never got the item and they just yanked the money out of my sister account and told here that she needed to provide "PROOF OF DELIVERY"..ya what absolute BS..who in there right mind is going register every item they send..yu would never sell anything if shipping was always double then what every other seller's has. This bidder had..get this..no feedbacks yet and my sister had about 600 then and no negatives..this newby not only got a free item, but even left her her first negative and so far..they have never mad e abid since. So..if yur item was not registered..say you never got it and have a fre item on Rip off Ebay/PAYPAL...
All I have to say is "CYA FEEBAY!". Stupid assholes suspended my account for a stupid reason and are treating me like a criminal. Trust and safety takes forever to get back to you and you can't talk to anyone on the phone. I feel like I'm being treated like a child by them...punishing me by suspending my account. So I built my own website. I know it won't get nearly as much traffic as eBay, but no listing fees and no final value fees! I'm also thinking of just taking Google Checkout and not PayPal since PayPal and FeeBay are the same company. They can leave my account suspended for all I care! I don't want to give them another freakin' dime.
This is what is happening on the Australian eBay Round Table Forum.
I will just paste the entire thread so judge for your self the level of anger.
This is not a one-off it is happening on a regular basis daily
PLEASE FUCKING CLOSE MY ACCOUNT
pleasephuckingclosemyaccount (10 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:12 EST
Posted 19:52, deleted 20:06
Posted again 20:06 deleted 20:11
This might take a while...
FUCKEM
25 replies Date posted Reply #
debra9275 (1293 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:13 EST 1 of 25
good luck!
hope they hear you this time.
alicespringsnt (192 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:13 EST 2 of 25
Don't hold back now.... say what you really mean.
frangipanius (232 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:14 EST 3 of 25
OP .. to get ebay to close your account:
* you have to die
* your family and friends have to make bids using your corpse's ID. Then they don't pay. Then, eventually, ebay might make you NARU after another decade or so. Maybe.
gaw318 (350 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:15 EST 4 of 25
LOL
oziken (955 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:15 EST 5 of 25
This is a KITCHEN NIGHTMARE!!!
australian-jewellery-sales (9672 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:16 EST 6 of 25
Make a new id Gordon Ramsay lol
oziken (955 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:17 EST 7 of 25
hells kitchen!!!
australian-jewellery-sales (9672 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:17 EST 8 of 25
I wonder if Mr Ramsay would bid for and eat food won on ebay?
jugglerpom (71 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:18 EST 9 of 25
you have to die
* your family and friends have to make bids using your corpse's ID. Then they don't pay. Then, eventually, ebay might make you NARU after another decade or so. Maybe.
I am thinking of putting a clause in my listing 'Dead people are not allowed to bid' I can see this as the only way to close an account we need to keep the 5 million users
australian-jewellery-sales (9672 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:19 EST 10 of 25
If you die you go to hells Kitchen
tonysmit (2017 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:21 EST 11 of 25
That should work!
BTW - if you die they only cancel your account if you tell them
australian-jewellery-sales (9672 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:21 EST 12 of 25
Is a suspended account a closed account?
australian-jewellery-sales (9672 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:22 EST 13 of 25
LOL tonysmit
I need to go and change my will.
"please close my account when I'm dead"
It's like the Mafia
freshwaterpearls (556 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:22 EST 14 of 25
Probably not!
pleasephuckingclosemyaccount (10 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:22 EST 15 of 25
Like my new account name
allcheapparts08 (3 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:22 EST 16 of 25
just spam links to the other, better, site that is FREE to list on
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usefull-items (358 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:22 EST 17 of 25
soon to be 4,999,999
foxinsox61 (317 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:23 EST 18 of 25
ROFL myself silly!!-yep,small things amuse small minds!!
Sometimes life just gets in the way
dvamp4u (105 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:23 EST 19 of 25
"Welcome to the hotel California"
australian-jewellery-sales (9672 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:23 EST 20 of 25
pleasephuckingclosemyaccount lol
australian-jewellery-sales (9672 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:24 EST 21 of 25
They will probably just change you user id before the close your account.
usefull-items (358 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:25 EST 22 of 25
the OP has taken Step00001
brain68cat (177 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:27 EST 23 of 25
Ha - I'm watching Ramsey now would you like everyone to report you?
jugglerpom (71 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:27 EST 24 of 25
Is a suspended account a closed account?
australian-jewellery-sales thinking about it you are right oh no there is no way out
usefull-items (358 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:27 EST 25 of 25
foxinsox61,
While smaller minds look on ???
I listed an item and first off ebay requires me to accept paypal as a form of payment for some bullshit reason. Then the auction ends for over $1800 and I get a non-paying bidder. I file a unpaid item report and go to leave negative feedback. Only to find that ebay does not allow sellers to leave negative feedback. This is unfair to the seller. To all sellers or anyone thinking about selling, Don't Ebay is a bunch of pricks.
They suspended my account because I had mistakenly listed an e-mail guide in the wrong category. I wish they would put me in a boxing ring with any of those pansy Motherf**ckers and then let's see who gets supsended!
I was ebay power seller. I sold over $7 Mil and paid $1/2 mil in ebay fee between 2001-2008. Early 2008 my account was suspended for low customer satisfaction ratio. I maintained 98.2% for all 7 years. I opened a few new accounts and all of them have 100% positive feedback but got suspended because I had a suspended ebay account. I have no other problem with ebay.
If you are a businessman and one of your customer buy $75,000/year (merchandise/service) from you, would you treat your customer this way?? I now doing wholesale toys, testing other online auction site, and selling through web sites. I am able to survive. Ebay is not a businessman.
You can buy my toys at www.pcpartusa.com
Thanks you for your time.
A NEW Alternative to eBay!
Ebay sucks! In fact, there are thousands of sites that offer free auctions. Maybe we can sell on these sites instead on Ebay sucks! Here is one site call digi-go that collect many free auctions sites, i sold my car via that site. If you want to sell something not through ebay sucks, just take a look at this page : http://www.digi-go.biz/dml.html
EBays feedback only benefits sellers. If an honest buyers submits bad feedback for a corrupt seller. All the seller has to do is submit bad feedback to the buyer. This eventually leads to a Mutual Feedback Withrawal. So end the end, sellers win. EBay buyers lose!
I would like to know of any other trusted sites, as much as they can be trusted, besides ebay to do business with! Ebay certainly has seemed to take over the buying and selling internet world. I had a lot of fun on ebay because their site is easy to read and fun to bid. When I sold, it was a different story. My shipping was reasonable, my shipping was very fast, my reputation was 100 percent. My wife had an ebay account and didn't do so well with it in the past, now I cannot use ebay. Is this fair? I don't think so.
I am starting to hate ebay!! I bought an item two months ago and paid for it instantly. I never received it...wrote seller a negative feedback...she admitted through email about 5 times that she had not sent it because she didnt get my address...YEAH RIGHT! I sent the information to her several times...finally I just left back feedback. So she refunds my money and then files an unpaid item dispute with ebay...WTF...I sent them the confirmation info from paypal and everything...but no...Now i have an unpaid item strike and i did nothing wrong. You cannot reach a live person to speak to for the life of you either!! And then the seller leaves feedback threatening me...does ebay do anything..No!! Customer service is horrible!!
Why after over 3 years is this still happening to people?
If ebay truely cared about their sellers they would have sorted this problem out years ago.
Innocent until proven guilty. ?
I have just had my account blocked as i am selling designer clothes but i buy my clothes direct from the head office of the respected brands and i am a licensed seller of these goods of which i have already provided ebay with to prove my authenticity.
So why do they block my account, its about time the big cheese of ebay had a look at this web site and pished it through to their customer service department!
anyone know how we can get ebay to read this or actually get some kind of legal system down on them for false closure, im sure their is someone out their who would love to take this up! maybe a petition at the end of this page to say how unhappy, then again the amount of posts on here sums it up really.
So why doesn't someone let us know exactly who picolabetty is? Tell us her name and city and state! Don't let her hide behind her ebay id.
http://www.Ziot.com
EBAY SUCKS
WHY?
EXCESSIVE FEES
HORRIBLE CUSTOMER SERVICE (ARGUING WITH 5 YEAR OLD)
CHARGED MY ACCOUNT AND TOOK MY MONEY UNJUSTLY
MY 6 YEAR OLD ACCOUNT WAS SUSPENDED INDEFINITELY DUE TO FEEDBACK THEY RECEIVED ABOUT ME FROM CUSTOMERS WHO DIDN'T EVEN COMPLETE A TRANSACTION WITH ME.
THAT'S RIGHT
EBAYS A**HOLE CUSTOMER SERVICE SUSPENDED MY ACCOUNT AND RESPONDED WITH THE SAME RESPONSE WHICH DIDN'T PROVIDE A CLEAR AND ACCURATE RESPONSE AS TO WHY I WAS SUSPENDED.
OH YEAH...THEY SURE AS HELL MADE SURE TO CHARGE MY ACCOUNT AND TAKE MY MONEY EVEN THOUGH I RECEIVED A HORRIBLE SERVICE AND DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO DEFEND MYSELF.
BOTTOM LINE:
EBAY SEEMS APPEALING AT FIRST
BUT SOONER OR LATER THEY WILL GET YOU
AMAZON OR CRAIGLIST IS BETTER
EBAY SUCKS
WHY?
EXCESSIVE FEES
HORRIBLE CUSTOMER SERVICE (ARGUING WITH 5 YEAR OLD)
CHARGED MY ACCOUNT AND TOOK MY MONEY UNJUSTLY
MY 6 YEAR OLD ACCOUNT WAS SUSPENDED INDEFINITELY DUE TO FEEDBACK THEY RECEIVED ABOUT ME FROM CUSTOMERS WHO DIDN'T EVEN COMPLETE A TRANSACTION WITH ME.
THAT'S RIGHT
EBAYS ASSHOLE CUSTOMER SERVICE SUSPENDED MY ACCOUNT AND RESPONDED WITH THE SAME RESPONSE WHICH DIDN'T PROVIDE A CLEAR AND ACCURATE RESPONSE AS TO WHY I WAS SUSPENDED.
OH YEAH...THEY SURE AS HELL MADE SURE TO CHARGE MY ACCOUNT AND TAKE MY MONEY EVEN THOUGH I RECEIVED A HORRIBLE SERVICE AND DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO DEFEND MYSELF.
BOTTOM LINE:
EBAY SEEMS APPEALING AT FIRST
BUT SOONER OR LATER THEY WILL GET YOU
AMAZON OR CRAIGLIST IS BETTER
I've found free up to date info to get back on ebay at suspended-from-ebay.com There are a couple sites that offer the auction again info. I too lost my home business and was in distress, I opened a new account with new info and got zapped again! I ran into the suspended-from-ebay.com and it worked, I'm back on.
If you've been burned by the "Big Auction" site - I'd love to hear from you!
Please email mrauctionexpert@yahoo.com
Wilks
The sellers of www.onlineauction.com are organizing a huge rummage sale to begin May 1, 2008. At last count, there were over 100 members committed to listing a minimum of 10 items each, all classic auctions starting at .99 WITH NO RESERVE. There will be hundreds of items literally at a steal, including name brands, new, used, lots, etc. Mark your calendars, come join the fun!! This is for a LIMITED TIME ONLY!!!
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it’s the only thing that ever has." - Margaret Mead
If you dislike ebay, don't get mad... Get even. Check out www.AskMeWhyEbaySucks.com
I have had a really bad experience with ebay of late. I'm trying to get my ebay business off the ground, selling pcs.
I have had to set up three different acounts. First off they suspended my account because it was hacked, they canceled all my listings, but never gave me any money back from the listing fees. Second account i set up the suspended it because i listed alot of PCs and they thought this one had been hacked aswell and suspended that account. I'm now on my third account, this is really annoying because i have managed to sell PCs on these previous accounts before the where suspended. As you can imagine trying to sell something as expensive as a PC on ebay with 0 feedback it hard, so when i do actually sell one its great because it means ill be getting a feedback from it, but when ebay suspend my accounts i lose that feedback and have to start all over again!
My advice to ANYONE wishing to start selling on ebay is the following: When registering a card for payments ensure it is one of those VOUCHER type things which you can buy for amounts between $10 and $20.
Why do I suggest this? Read on. Ebay WILL and CAN suspend your account at ANY time. For example, for the last 14 months I have been selling LEGITIMATE CDs and DVDs, with a 100% positive feedback and over 150 transactions.
I was suspended for selling a COUNTERFEIT DVD. How did they come to this conclusion? Especially considering I have not even sent one of the items out !
I am either the victim of a vindictive buyer who has 'reported' me for an item they have never actually received, or ebay simply PICK on individual sellers for the hell of it.
Now, the reason I STRONGLY suggest EVERYONE who considers selling on ebay gets themselves a low value voucher when registering is the following. When your account is frozen ebay IMMEDIATELY sends ALL buyers a message informing they do NOT pay you for the goods they have won. The buyers then either cancel their checks or claim through Paypal. At the SAME TIME ebay will charge you for ALL the sales you have made, meaning that as you are refunding all the buyers ebay are getting their hands on YOUR money, as you will have made ZIP from the selling!
Had you registered with your credit card ebay would simply dip into your funds and take the FULL AMOUNT from it. However, as you have registered your low value voucher ebay are likely to get NOTHING, because you only have $10 on the account, and even if your fees are $11 they cannot take a CENT !
EBAY- MIND HOW YOU GO !
I bought an item on ebay. Never got the item. Requested the sellers contact info and tried calling them. Bad phone number. Contacted Ebay they never contacted back and have not made the seller update his contact info. the seller is htecomm. Im awaiting my refund. Why do I have to wait they can take my money instantly. If the seller can't prove that he shipped the item or doesn't bother to respond in 24 hours I should get my money back right away. I hate ebay so bad.
More horror stories!
Sara - I looked up Picolabetty - What a crook! Just a preview of coming attractions on eBay. I hear that some sellers have already found a way to leave dozens of negatives for their competition! Can't say I didn't see that coming.
There was a similar nasty person stalking me on eBay. I begged eBay to let me change ID's without linking me to my old ID. They wouldn't. So I set up another ID and started all over, losing over 1000 feedbacks. That person is still on eBay with a feedback score of 51 and 5 negatives. They suspended me indefinitely because of my "linked" accounts. I had 1 retaliatory negative out of 1,500 feedbacks. They suspended her for 3 days because she had a linked account - but then, she is a buyer and I sold "yard sale" stuff.
Another bidder was harassing me with filthy e-mails. I sent a complaint to eBay and blocked the bidder. eBay gave my personal contact information to the bidder AFTER I had blocked him. When I complained, they pretended it didn't happen.
Ebay is a crook! They are the worst sort of crooks allowed to steal! Ebay is consider white collar crimnals-----which makes it legal to steal!
They have all these rules in place to operate as criminals and they steal from everybody who uses their services.
INCLUDING ALL OF US WHO USES PAYPAL!!!
They allow scam artists such as picolabetty to operate freely on ebay. Picolabetty is the worst sort of criminal. She steals from sellers and extorts money from them. Picolabetty was suspended on March 11, 2008 for two days and she is back today March 13, 2008 buying again.
Must people can never come back to ebay or if they do it is in a month or longer...ebay never responds that fast. So who is picolabetty related too in the company??
WOW----- to be rein-stated in two days....who does she know? What is her connection??
She has received 11 negatives in a one week period and eaby allows this sort of behavior. She extorts feedback from individuals and if you give her a strike for being a non paying bidder she lies and says the person is angry because pay pal gave money back. She has received three strikes that I am aware of. If you do not give picolabetty money off of an item then she returns the item for a full refund and leaves you a negative. She has asked for as much as $200.00 off a $599.99 dollar Raccoon coat. item and there is nothing wrong with it.
I think all of them are in bed together. So since we do not have choices and ebay is the only action in town make your money and try to find another way to make money.
Ebay will kill you...they have a deaf ear and do not care about anything, anybody------But the money and fees they can charge you.
They have all these rules to protect criminals....I see why the criminals have come out of the wood work to steal on ebay...because before ebay decide to do anything they have gotten their money and move on to the next victim. What idiots!
Today I am letting this go.....I have lost countless hours of sleep dealing with ebay. To be exact one week! So I am going to do something I have peaches about....LIG....LET IT GO!
THANKS FOR HEARING ME OUT!! SARA
a_star_car ........ I believe eBay will shut down any and every "mom and pop" seller for any reason they can come up with.
Although they deny padding their auction count so that it will appear that the boycott has had no effect, for one example look at this seller's listings.....
collect2000 has 88,894 auctions listed as of this morning!
I HATE EBAY. They just shut me down, for too much negative feedback...
______________________________________________________
Dear a_star_car (astarcar@googlemail.com),
We regret to inform you that your eBay account has been restricted from buying or selling on eBay because it is in breach of our Seller Non-Performance policy.
Our records indicate that buyer satisfaction with your account has worsened significantly over the past 90 days. To help keep eBay a safe place to trade we have ended your open listings and temporarily restricted your account.
Your account will remain restricted for the next thirty days to allow you to settle these issues. During this time you won't be able to make any new purchases or list any items. We've ended any open listings.
___________________________________________________
heres my reply to them:
Firstly I would like to mention that the last negative feedback I received was from a chap who bought a starter motor - redfastlad - item: 270206516750, who emailed and said that the item was not as described, which in fact it was - I had duplicated the description from the original manufacturers website, he the emailed back 5 minutes later saying actually it was broken that he'd had an electrician test it and it needed repair (all in 5 minutes - wow), I know this to be untrue as the item was fully tested before being sent, and it could not have been damaged in the post as it was well wrapped. I explained my listing, asked him to read it again - and my additional info, and said I could only refund the price he paid if he returned the item, I could not refund the postage. I had no further communication from him until I noticed he had left bad feedback. I know that if the chap had tried it as a replacement for his own broken article, it would have worked. I do still have the original correspondance if you wish to investigate this.
The next negative feedback on the list was someone who didnt even contact me prior to leaving bad feedback, for an item - ford sunroof seal, which was once again as described: batmat7 item 270205972260 I know it was a genuine article because I removed it from my car myself! - Unfortunately I have no correspondance for you to investigate in this case.
I believe that eBay is rather unfair, and I feel like making a complaint to an ombudsman, it seems you are just money grabbing - at least I had no open listings as I am fed up of not being refunded for listings you choose to close. The one that really got my goose was a car I had for sale that you ended as a 'ghost' auction, I never received a refund my £8 listing fee. If I add it up you have cancelled around £20 worth of listings for no real reason other than forcing me to pay to relist them.
You really need to revise your policies regarding the way you treat customers, I'm an honest chap, who if I have made a mistake will admit it, but I hate being ripped off by people who think they'll swap their faulty goods for what I send them and then get frustrated when I refuse to refund them. I know you just want the money, but a lot of people are losing faith in eBay and moving on to better places such as eBid.
I would appreciate someone from your company to take time out of pressing buttons, to actually consider my email and respond to me in person.
_________________________________________________
MAYBE THEY WILL RESPOND.. hahahahahahaha
This is what eBay has done to my family…
Both my daughter and I sold on eBay for years. My bank account was linked to her eBay account so that I could pay her seller fees through my bank account. EBay had no problem with collecting those fees over the years and we made no secret of the fact that the accounts were linked. I estimate we paid eBay more than $30,000.00 in fees over the years.
But we were “yard sale” sellers. We never engaged in shill bidding and carefully adhered to all of eBay’s rules - after all, they were our major source of income and we weren’t about to jeopardize that. Twice I bid on something I didn’t want my daughter to sell and in both cases I won the auction and paid the eBay fees.
My daughter’s husband is suffering from MRSA, the “super bacteria”. He has been unemployed for two years, and has had surgery 4 times. He is seriously ill and definitely may not survive. His unemployment insurance ran out months ago. He has applied for Permanent Disability, but it takes about a year to get approved for that. In the meantime, their only income was eBay.
Not long ago my daughter fell and suffered a severely fractured shoulder and arm. With the use of only one hand and in extreme pain, she was late with shipping a few items. As soon as she was able, she explained the problem to the buyers, with one-finger typing, and said she would ship the items as soon as she could. She even gave one buyer a full refund and told him that he could pay her again as soon as he received his purchase, which she had managed to ship. She asked the other buyers if they could wait or if they wanted a refund. I sent refunds to two of them myself. However, a couple of the buyers did not believe her and filed complaints. She was suspended from eBay for “failure to perform”.
Then, simply because my account was “linked to a previously suspended account” I was also suspended. I believe that eBay was searching for reasons to suspend as many “yard sale” sellers as they could. We had combined feedback totals of more than 2600 with one negative, from a non-paying bidder. We had never broken eBay rules. I tried to explain our situation to eBay. They would not hear.
Ebay gave me instructions on how to release the suspension - I was to e-mail them through the “previously suspended” account at which point I would be able to close the “linked” account and the other account would be reinstated.
However, they blocked e-mail access to eBay from the suspended account. The only communication I received from them was that my account would remain suspended until I e-mailed them through the e-mail address which they had blocked. There was nothing I could do. I would receive only a reiteration of their nonsensical instructions, the latest one including the phrase, “we may not respond to further e-mails”. I faxed them the formal “Request for Reinstatement”, which must be signed “under penalty of perjury” and include a copy of a “Government issued ID”. The form states that they will respond “within 7 to 10 days”. I faxed it on February 11th. They have ignored it.
I have given up and will remain suspended.
At this point I would not sell on eBay even if I were not suspended - that will be a dangerous undertaking for any seller.
Both my daughter and I were devastated by eBay’s refusal to reinstate at least one account. Not only did my daughter lose her only source of income, we lost one of the few pleasures we find in our struggle to survive. We would no longer be going to the weekend estate sales on our “treasure hunts”. There would be no reason to go. It seemed that not only our livelihood, but a major part of our lives had come to an end. When I was notified of my suspension I was in the process of organizing the hundreds of “yard sale” items I intended to list on eBay. I had emptied the closet and stacked the things on the floor to sort them. They are still on the floor - I have not been able to bring myself to deal with them.
I am 72 years old and live on Social Security plus what I could make on eBay, often by selling my own “treasures”, sometimes at a huge loss. Almost all of my eBay earnings went to assist my daughter, her husband and my two grandchildren. I have placed a reverse mortgage on my house so that I can keep my daughter and her family in food and shelter until a better place to sell takes the place of eBay.
Thank you eBay - from a long-time loyal ex-customer. My loyalty has gone elsewhere! You are definitely no better than my family or I simply because you have your health, your employment and your money - you are only luckier! Enjoy it while you have it - I have a suspicion (and the hope) that it won’t last long.
A highly recommended site is elfingo.com for online auctions. They are the new ebay. Many smaller sites like this offer buyers far better deals than ebay ever could. Buyser also save a ton because this site charges little or nothing depending on the day. One more reaso I like elfingo.com is because they don't take a part of the sale at all. No commissions or final value fees. A+++ http://www.elfingo.com
Has anybody ever thought of getting a hold of the media to expose all the consumer issues that both ebay and paypal have? I'm sure that any of big news corp. would love to have an easy in depth story about the hundreds of thousands of cases where ebay and paypal have done wrong to their users. The consistent posts to this blog say a lot.
In order to force both ebay and paypal to do an overhaul, you have to provide them with a very credible threat.
It would not be unreasonable to think that if there was enough support for a well executed, widespread campaign against their bad business practices along with the beginning of the development of a new well advertised auction site that capitalizes on everything that ebay lacks for its users, that ebay would be forced to completely change the way they do business. It would also help if there were simultaneously a frenzy of costly lawsuits against the corporation in addition to lawsuits already pending.
I am particularly disgusted by the way they allow so many counterfeit items to be traded and sold across the world. I don't appreciate how they place limits on any account that sells brand name items when, in some instances they can just remove maybe 2 or 3 powersellers and resolve the heavy counterfeiting issues that they have with a majority of items in a category for particular brand.
You can't sell crap on that website without having it shut down by ebay.
I simply tried to sell a memory stick containing a program that will let Playstation Portable owners unbrick their PSPs, and low and behold? AUCTION IS ERASED FROM EXISTANCE within 4 hours.
Great. No refund on my 10 cents either.
Idiots.
eBay is horrible, everthing is honkey dorey until you have a problem. They do not take care of their members but are very efficient at charging and taking fees. I have had non payers that left me negative feedback and I cannot get it removed. eBay states that feedback is between members and they do not get involved. So anyone can say anything they want, even when the FACTS totally contradict their statements. I hope that the government starts looking into their business practices, and they become a dinosuar of the past.
John
Small Business E-commerce Technology Company Introduces Features Designed To Reach Markets Beyond eBay
New Web 2.0 e-commerce technology company FastCommerce.com announces the introduction of Google Products as a part of a larger strategy of giving on-line businesses access to a growing number of new marketplaces beyond eBay. While eBay offers small business entrepreneurs access to an immense market for on-line sales, it also presents continual challenges to small companies running on razor-thin margins. Recent changes in policy at the on-line auction site highlight the risks of running an on-line business with only one marketplace strategy.
San Mateo, CA (PRWEB) February 16, 2008 -- New Web 2.0 technologies offer access to a growing number of marketplaces for those on-line sellers who have traditionally relied on one large marketplace vendor to drive sales. For FastCommerce.com, the introduction of Google Products is just the first step in powering merchant access to these new and growing opportunities.
eBay has proved to be a large marketplace for selling on-line, but it continues to present challenges, even disruptions, to the small business entrepreneur looking to succeed in on-line sales. There are upfront fees for listing products, an expense regardless of whether the item is sold. eBay sellers also go up against a large number of direct competitors, which drives down profit margins for the majority of sales. Low margins compete with incremental expenses and changes in policy to make it more difficult for many small companies to build a profitable on-line business.
Moreover, eBay is only one marketplace at a time when the number of successful market venues continues to proliferate. The introduction of Google Products as well as Google Check-out highlights the need for moving beyond a single market strategy for increasing sales. The challenge and the opportunity for on-line sellers is to have access to an inexpensive single-system e-commerce application that can power both market reach and on-line sales.
E-commerce technologies that are market neutral enable the small business entrepreneur to compete in an array of marketing venues. FastCommerce.com automatically publishes its merchants' product catalogs to Google products. Or again, FastCommerce.com offers both Google Check-out and PayPal. With FastCommerce.com on-line merchants are not fettered by the strategy of a dominant industry player.
For example, David Pogue of the New York Times, in a review of Microsoft's revamped Office Live, points out that its integrated ad-word campaign tool is limited to only two search engines. As he writes, "You can place ads on Microsoft's search sites and Ask.com, which together represent less than 8 percent of search engine popularity. If you are going to advertise, you'd almost certainly prefer the exposure of the Big Two- Yahoo and Google- but they are not available through Office Live."
Small business entrepreneurs need access to inexpensive, single-system ecommerce applications that are easy and quick to set up, easy to use, and which let their users grow their business without growing their costs. For a low fixed monthly fee, FastCommerce.com allows a merchant to sell 2,000 product without transaction or user fees: small business entrepreneurs can grow their business at a fixed price with no hidden or incremental charges.
Finally, new Web 2.0 e-commerce technologies like FastCommerce.com offer an array of features that can power the whole of their on-line business. Gone are the days when a simple, cheap "shopping cart" can take small businesses to the next level. According to FastCommerce.com CEO Charles Han, today's small business e-commerce applications have to encompass all aspects of running a business, including detailed reports and analytics, order and customer management systems, and more. As he states, "It has to be enterprise in scope but with a small business price."
No less important, Han argues, "Today's small business e-commerce systems must also power the merchant's marketing. It is publish or perish, to search engines, shopping comparison sites, or retail search sites. On-line sellers do not have the skills or the time to do this themselves. They have to have an enterprise platform that connects all the dots for them."
December 17, I sold a set of Briney Sprear Curious Perfum on Ebay, someone bought it and paid by Paypal, gave me a great feedback which said his daughter loves it .
In January, Paypal withdrew fund from my account saying that the buyer said he did not receive the item. I showed Paypal his feedback , no one in paypal bothered to look, and surprisingly close the case without informing me. I lost the item, fees charge from Ebay, fees charge from Paypal . Hours and hours working with Paypal agents .
is ebay paypal???? or is paypal ebay???? maybe its payebay!!! there is definitly no pals there!!!
Last night "payebay" (aka: ebay & paypal) totally deleted FIFTEEEN!!!! of my auctions.
No matter people had already placed bids on some of them, or that lots of people had included them in their favourites. Or that it was a weeks worth of work for me. Or that is is financially debilitating to me and my family. No matter that I have been selling for 5 years with 99.8% positive feedback (and I might add that one neg was a vindictive retaliation and one was the buyer did not read the ad properly, not that ebay would do anything about them), Nor did it matter that my ebay bill is between $150 and $220 per month. Or that I do pay a fair share of paypal fees when I sell to overseas customers. Not to mention my strategic way of listing so as to optimise viewers from all over the world, had been dismantled.
With the click of a button, they vanished.
Why??? because of a few unmentionable words, which by the way were not in the ebay dictionary/rules when I first started, but have sneakily appreared in the ebay rules along with paypal.
These words that I used in my adverts were "paypal is accepted from overseas buyers only"
They were most unreasonable and very aggressive in their attack on my livelyhood.
I live in Australia, and our banking system here is cheaper to use than paypal, but paypal is convenient for overseas transactions. ebay/paypal want you to use paypal only, they only endorse and protect fully paypal transactions. They say that paying through my countries banking system is not safe. Nor is paying via money order, both of which used to be safe!!! and that paypal is the only safe way to pay. What a load of crap!!!
I am FURIOUS with them deleting my auctions like that, at the very least they could have messaged me, phoned me (they did so to get info out of me when building paypal up) or just taken one or two of my auctions off to get the message through, but not 15, oh they did leave a few crappy auctions on, not that they are crappy, but meaning that they did not bring in bigger money, and they, had the same sentence written in them!!!
The fatcats need pulling down, and put back into perspective.
Paypal and ebay are easy targets at the moment, and anyone who can match their selling power, or even come close, without the exhorbitant fees, unfair trials, greed and naziism rules could overtake them and put them out of business.
Do all rich people have a greed mindset???? can you not get ahead and even overtake them with goodheartedness and fairness to your fellow man/woman/child. How did ebay get so big and sooooo UGLY. You'd think that they would be grateful to the people who got them to where they are today, but instead they are bleeding them dry.
They have forgotten who helped them to get on top.
I am in the market for a new selling venue and a new overseas payment system. A conglomerate of people who know the pangs of ebay and paypal, and who would never do the same to others. That would be a good selling point for an auction site.
Yes payebay (aka: ebay & paypal) SUCK!!!! and they are losing their pals at a fast rate.
Try www.swapblaster.com . This site has a unique approach to selling and it costs only 7c after coming out from its beta state. For the next 6 months the buying and selling will be free. The approach may be strange in the beginning but you will get a feel of it, trust me. Go through the wiki pages and spread this word around. I believe this will be an integrated solution for all your day to day needs, material and non-material. Let us make this movement successful and find some NIRVANA in the sphere of online transactions. Good LUCK and God BLESS AMERICA.
Okay, this is classic Ebay. I had a perfume store that was suspended by Ebay for a supposed "trademark violation" although noone from Ebay could tell me what in particular was violating a trademark.
Well, I went through their process to get reinstated. You have to fax a bunch of info to prove you are the account holder, blah, blah, blah. I waited a few days all the while trying to get a hold of someone there which you can't to see if they got my fax. Needless to say, 10 days pass before I get an email saying they did not get all of my fax. Another 10 days pass. I spoke with an attorney who specializes in internet cases and had dealt with a perfume store in the same situation before. Basically unless you have 100s of thousands of dollars, you aren't going to be able to sue Ebay. Now I could spend $3000 to retain the attorney and he possibly had a contact at Ebay that could help me determine exactly what my trademark violation was and how to fix it, but for what little money I stand to make it doesn't make sense.
So anyway, about a month passes before I finally hear back from Ebay saying I am reinstated. Great, I thought. I revised all of my listings to make it absolutely clear that I bought these items from a liquidation lot, that they were pulled from shelves of department stores. All copy, photos, etc are mine. I changed the headings to read "Ralph Hot by Ralph Lauren" for example to make sure there was no confusion in who held the trademark. This was beginning of Jan 2008. For about a month I made several sales, I had 48 people leave feedback with a 100% rating.
Just the other day, my first batch of listings ran out. I had several 100 listings in store format. I thought I had set my preferences so as not to have them auto-relisted but apparently not because Ebay auto-relisted all of those after they expired 30 days from the first list date. Well, wouldn't you know....I get an email less than 24 hours later saying I am suspended from doing business on Ebay again....once again for trademark violation. My suspicion is that the auto-relist triggered something, as Ebay has had 30 days to have a problem with my listings and has not until a mass listing event happened. I have found on the internet several people saying their security software seems to have all sorts of problems.
What it all boils down to is this...Ebay is getting sued all over the world by trademark holders ( and even by a country!! France or Germany if I remember correctly ). Their people are not trained very well in what is and what isn't a trademark violation, so when in doubt, they just shut you down. The fact that noone from Ebay can tell me what in my listing is violating a trademark is confirmation of that. What makes this whole thing criminal on their part is I was charged for all the listings that went on only to be suspended less than a day later, and they will not refund my money! In any other line of business that would be called "stealing."
What I have learned in all my attempts to make an honest buck on the internet is this: If people are telling you they are making money or even making a living using one of many techniques on the internet, be highly sceptical!! The only people I can tell making money on Ebay are Ebay themselves with their high fees and business model that includes stealing money, and the cottage industry that has sprung up around Ebay directed at sellers on Ebay. Those would include all the supposed "wholesalers" who want to sell you product to offer on Ebay who are not wholesalers, but actually retailers who bought themselves at wholesale then mark it up and try to offer to you "wholesale". Beware these people, they are also called "internet middlemen". You will lose money using them. Also people selling these seminars and books and e-books on how great it is selling on Ebay. I'm sure there are people who do actually turn a profit on Ebay, but they must be few and far between. When you have people offering the same product, same exact item with price ranges running from $20-$55 and the wholesale cost is $25, there is just no way you are going to make money. Truthfully the only way I see to make money ( and you won't be making a living ) on Ebay is if you make your own product and therefore have little cost, or you are selling junk around your house that has already been paid for and depreciated over several years.
Anyway, that is my wonderful experience on Ebay. Needless to say, I am through with them. It was a noble experiment, but I won't allow my self to be suckered in by their sales pitches again about how great it is to open a store on Ebay. Not saying it couldn't work for you, but lesson learned....stay away from any product that could cause trademark problems ( just about everything )...especially designer brand items. Thanks for reading, and stay safe out there...the internet is full of people trying to take our hard earned dollars with dreams of making a nice income sitting in front of the computer.
Ebay charge 10% or more for the new fee. How buyer can get a real good deal
I've got news for you sellers who think eBay protects buyers - they don't! I've closed my eBay account for the 4th time yesterday. The first time I closed it was because the merchandise I was being sent ended up being department store prices for garage sale quality items. The second time was because a seller lied to me 3 times about when he shipped my item - I paid for priority shipping that was supposed to be 2-3 day delivery and I didn't get it for 3 weeks. I left him negative feedback and he retaliated with negative feedback even though I had paid him immediately after the auction ended. The third time was because the sellers don't leave feedback for buyers based on the buyer's actions, but whether or not the seller got positive feedback. I bought one Mrs. Beasely doll that was described in "excellent" condition. Yeah, excellent condition that included stains on the doll and its apron plus broken glasses. I found the seller had left retaliatory feedback for a couple of other sellers and I knew if I left honest feedback she'd do the same for me. Yesterday was the final straw for me! I bought an item on eBay Express, paid for it immediately, and a few minutes later received an email from eBay stating the item had been cancelled. No other explanation other than my money would be refunded from PayPal. When I went to My eBay section and clicked on the auction, it stated payment for the item had been cancelled. I did NOT cancel the payment, eBay did - why, I have no clue. I thought it wasn't available for whatever reason and purchased the same item from another seller. The seller of the cancelled auction got all pissy about me not paying for her item. I explained in numerous emails to her that eBay cancelled it, not me. She just refused to accept that so I contacted eBay TWICE asking them to let her know I didn't cancel the order, they did. Ebay refused to contact her and said I had to call her - paying for a long distance call - and talk to her. Why? Why should I waste more money calling this seller when I'd already explained it to her several times & she was basically calling me a liar. I'm sick of eBay and their crappy service! All they're interested in is getting their money and screw the honest buyers and the honest sellers. This time is the last time with eBay. I'm finished. I hope eBay goes out of business - it would serve them and their dishonest, lying sellers and buyers right!
Ebay Sucks!
That is the understatement of the year. Listen to what these idiots did to me. First off I sold some products on ebay and had quite a few listed in my ebay store until the price of holding products in your store sky rocketed. I was on ebay for 6 months and their rates went up twice. So anyway I decided that the charges were to high and I pulled all of my listings and shut down my store. I paid all of my fees and went about my business. Then 6 months later ebay comes back and says that I owe 260 dollars for over credits. So I call ebay and their superstar customer service rep says that the computer found a bunch of over credits to my listings. So they show me all of these so called over credits to my accounts and they are like 2-10 cent so called credits to around 150 different listings that I had at one time. Totally 260 dollars. How can that be I said that I paid and closed my accounts 6 months ago? The superstar says that they recently did an audit and that is what they came up with? So by that rational ebay could charge me whatever they want whenever they want. I refused to pay for these made up charges and I have been getting phone calls from creditors ever since about paying this fony charge. The extent of greed that this company has is unreal. I paid thousands of dollars in fees to ebay and that wasn't enough they had to create charges to get more out of me. To fight this rediculous charge would cost me 10 times as much as it would be to just pay it. Hurting my credit history and tarnishing my reputation is more costly than the 260 dollars but I just can not pay this fee. So in closing ebay does suck they are way out of control and should be stopped. But good luck with that.
I have gone thru hell with ebay. Ebay and paypal is one company. i paid for an item, $ 2150.00 for a diamond ring. never got to see my money or the diamond. Moreover i have seen people with 4000 feedbacks all 100% Positive vanish from ebay , whY ? cause ebay kicked them out. and guys with 90% feedbacks still defrauding buyers and milking them for money.
So frustrated i went on to search for a place where i can sell jewelry and found www.jewelrygrabber.com
Its a simple site. however only for jewelry. Guess what i am selling even though its picking up, I wish best of luck to jewelrygrabber guys.. Kick ebay's butt and come out with an all rounder site that sells everything.
Ebay Sucks...
I predict that one day a frustrated seller or buyer will go to the head office of ebay or paypal with a gun then shoot up the place. Like going postal but worse.
I've also heard that eBay has a creepy corporate culture.
Sellers – Boycott eBay on Feb 20, 2008
eBay has made some changes that will take effect February 20, 2008. They are marketing a decrease in listing fees, coupled with benefits for buyers and sellers. The truth is that although listing fees re being slightly decreased (from 5 cents to 20% depending on item value), final value fees are being increased DRASTICALLY. PowerSellers get discounts, but it will not get them back to as good a situation as they are currently in!
More importantly, eBay is ELIMINATING NEGATIVE FEEDBACK for buyers!!! That means as a seller you cannot leave negative feedback for a buyer. You either leave positive feedback or no feedback!! This is what eBay is marketing as a benefit for buyers. Obviously it is a benefit for buyers...but buyers that represent the scum off the earth and certainly not the good, honest buyers that eBay should be trying to attract. This is a loss for honest buyers, a loss for sellers and a negative for the whole eBay community. Starting February 20, dishonest buyers will be able to delay and avoid payment with no serious consequences whatsoever! We all know about the three-strikes-and-you're-out for non-paying bidders. With no negative feedback allowed, all buyers essentially get a free pass to not pay for 2 items!!
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eBay just changed their user interface and it sucks. You have to click more links to get the items you want. Also the servers are giving: bad server response errors
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Is it just me or are eBay seller fees getting higher and higher? I just recently listed an item with a starting bid of $50 and got charged over $5 just to list it. To make it even better, they will also charge an end of auction fee.
Is it just me or do they keep on raising their fees to take advantage of their market "monopoly" ?
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Ebay are scum. Thay couldn't care less that I was defrauded out of 2500 bucks because someone had stolen an ID and was listing fake items. Ebay have washed their nicely manicured fat little gold-fingered hands of the situation. I have washed my hands of them.
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Ebay really does suck.
My problem with ebay is that you can't send a message to other ebay members that you are not in a deal with.
So if you spot that someone is purchasing say a counterfiet item you can't warn them.
Their is no reason for this except ebay do not want people to contact one another in case they do business outside ebay.
Crap realls as they do nothing about the sale of counterfiet goods as that would also cost them money.
Onderwerp: Drama in Apeldoorn. Harde actie vereist en persoonlijk door laksheid banken ben ik 18000 euro verloren en wordt niet vergoed!!!!
Vraag/opmerking: na de afgelopen weken van terrorisme rondom de tunnel onder het station is de maat nu toch echt vol. Ik heb een brief naar de verantwoordelijke minister geschreven over de wantoestanden in gemeente Apeldoorn, ook namens vele medebewoners in de wijk. er zijn weer fietsen gesmeten over het nieuwe plein, vechtpartijen, ruiten ingegooid bij het R.O.C.en brandjes gesticht, loverboys en junks. Kinderen spelen tussen spuiten en wietzakjes! denkt u eens in te wonen in de buurt, aangedaan door planningvan de gemeente apeldorn. En planschade is al een half jaar in onderzoek, wat dik over 30000 euro hoort te gaan, daar de huizen onverkoopbaar zijn geworden! dit alles onder toezicht van camera`s en fietsen in tuinen gegooid van bewoners aan de 2e wormensweg 38. De stadsdeelmanager heeft op een bijeenkomst enkele zoethouder`s toegezegd, maar dathaalt bij dit tuig niets uit. er gaan verhalen rond, dat burger`s zelf de heertje`s uit d maten willen aanpakken, en dan met knuppels
. Dit lijkt mij niet de bedoeling, maar men beschermd gewoon zijn eigen spullen, waar de gemeente Apeldoorn faalt. Wij hebben de indruk, dat er meer tijd en geld voor REESINK is dan voor het welzijn van de Apeldoornse burger. Ik heb voorgesteld de fietsroute te verleggen van de 2e wormenseweg naar de Laan v/d mensenrechten omdat ze daar in de weekenden kunnen vernielen, schreeuwen zodat niemand er last van heeft. Oook ben ik actief bezig de talloze fietsendiefstallen een halt toe te roepen, welke gepleegd worden bij de onbewaakte fietsenstalling aan het stationsplein-zuid. er is daar al een daderteamopgericht bij de politie. Er worden gem. 5 fietsen per dag gestolen. daarvoor heb ik prorail aansprakelijk gesteld, daar zij willens en wetens de stalling er toch hebben geplaats. zelf steekt het mij, dat uw reactie via Hr Otto over een bouwkavel i.v.m. mijn zeer slechte medicsche toestand zo is afgedaan. Dat motiveert mij ds te meer deze strijd op te voeren, daar het goede o
verleg ver te zoeken is bij de Gemeente Apeldoorn! ik hoop dat uw ogen open gaan en er een structureel overleg op gang komt. en HARD aanpakken is gewenst. Oook wil ik mijn woning aan de gemeente te koop aanbieden, daar deze vele malen per dag gebruikt wordt voor parkeerlus. dan kunt U he verhuren en ik een huisje bouwen in de zonnehoeve of as v/d/ ankelaar. Ik hoop dat ikdaar nog enekele jaren rustig kan leven.
ik wacht uw antwoordt af en hoop op enige urgentie!
m.v.g.
W.R.M. Leuverink
2e wormenseweg 38
7331 VE Apeldoorn
P.s. Ik schrijf U deze brief/mail omdat de politiek in Apeldoorn niets doet en de stad in rap tempo afglijdt naar een wildwest. ik ben al een jaar met wethouders in conclaaf, en steeds nemen ze mij niet serieus terwijl ik veel steun geniet van de bevolking. ingrijpen op regeringsniveau is hoogst noodzakelijk om te voorkomen dat er doden gaan vallen. mensen willen dat tuig te lijf gaan om hun eigen spullen te beschermen. De politie komt middelen te kort, politiek leeft in gouden toren en wij (burgers) mogen niets doen, behalve een waarschuwend vingertje opsteken met als antwoordt een middelvingen! graag wil ik U vragen een brief te sturen naar verantwoordelijke wethouder/burgermeester met mijn naam en mijn grieven. de handtekeningen/mails hebben ze al, wederom geen actie.
M.v.g.
W.R.M. Leuverink
2ewormenseweg 38
7331 VE Apeldoorn
tel: 0647137822
Ebay does suck! Their commissions and listing prices nail you in the keester on the way in and nail you on the way out. There is nothing I can say here that hasn't been said in the previous 959 postings. Do I have a recomendation? You bet I do!! Its a RIOT! It has a one time yearly membership dues, which lets members buy or sell as much as they want without an additional costs. This site does not have a commission to make on the sales of those that using the service. The cost? Less than $ .18 per day. You can make money on referals and on those who your referals refer.
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Check it out. Do your homework so that you will be satisfied.
Danny Davis
We do not live in a communist country and eBay conducting their business as such isn’t taken lightly by the american people.
I am a victim of eBay's "because-we-said-so" enforcements was convicted and condemned without investigation or inquiry.
Ebay closed down all of my 47 listings and pocketed the $70+ fees. The reason? My sister bid on one of my items. Yes. You heard me correctly.
If selling to a relative is a crime, I’m part of a multi-million count group who was totally unaware.
Their policies are broad and vague so that they may be twisted and turned any way which suits their purpose. Assumptions and accusations are handled as truth. Their ability to mediate problem situations - non-existent.
A sister bidding on one of my items is no justification for Ebay to help themselves to $70 of my money. But they feel it is. Why? Because they said so. That's the end of it. Discussion is over.
By the way, my sister lives three states away. She placed on a bid on one of my items. This is my crime. Ebay sellers, I hope you are heeding this message carefully.
Ebay's erroneous shoot-from-the-hip actions have cost me over $70 in lost listing fees, lost potential sales, countless hours I spent preparing my listings, not to mention dissappointing my buyers.
They restricted my account, froze my half.com sales, stripped my status and retained funds that did not belong to them. They have yet to respond to my emails.
For the record, I have over 1,400 Positive feedback (Yes - No Negatives! An incredible feat in this day and age), and powerseller status.
Really! They have to be stopped. This is crossing the line.
There's no integrity in ebay anymore! you have idiots selling items the cheapest they possibly can profiting $1.00 per sale instead of keeping the value of the product high. There's items on there people willingly would love to pay %600-700 dollars for but some bonehead came in and listed his for %69.99
This type of penny pinching mentality kills me!
Ebay has no process for resolving claims of extenuating circumstance, this is a fact as all options for disputing an issue are pre-populated by Ebay on their Dispute Console. My situation is as follows:
1. I successfully sold an item.
2. I sent invoice, buyer didn't pay for 5 days.
3. I then sent email and called the buyer (disconnected number) and waited 2 additional days.
4. On day 8 I tried to fill out Unpaid Item Form which did kept giving me error message stating I had to wait 7 days to file, and the date it showed, was two days in the past???
5. I contacted customer service and explained situation with great care and articulation.
6. Was referred back to Unpaid Item Form as if my complaint had fallen on deaf ears.
7. Offered item to second chance bidder. Accepted paid for immediately. Shipped immediately.
8. Filed negative feedback on first bidder.(That's why it's supposed to be there, to protect seller's/buyer's )
9. After feedback posted, first bidder pays for item via Paypal, strange because item should have been noted as sold when second chance bidder paid via Paypal???
10. First bidders excuse was "I partied too hard over holidays and forgot that I bid".
11. I refunded first bidders money and tried to file Unpaid Item to get a refund of my fees, I was charged for BOTH buyers, the sale amount was large and so are the fees. Same problem as stated in number four, Ebay keeps blocking UPI form stating I have to wait till a date that is now far into the past.
12.Tried to contact ebay again, explained issue above almost verbatim, and got not answer except what seems to be a copy and paste reply to use the dispute console.
13. This is not the first issue that I have had with Ebay, but, this is the last straw, I have been a seller and a buyer for years and I am going to tell everyone that I meet to avoid Ebay like a plague.
14. I am now steaming mad, I am going to cancel my credit card I use to have my Ebay fees deducted from, and become a NON-PAYING SELLER and I dare Ebay to try to collect this money from me.
eBay operates in Frnace w/p a license and hides as a broker to continue to operate? Told you this company is fishy! Check this link out:
http://www.itworld.com/Tech/2403/071203ebayfrance/
pls watch thi video. shame on ebay/paypal!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phvMn6Uu2k8
Mehmet _vs_Paypal NewYorkIndex# 110537/07 - UPDATE
Sent: 08-02-2007 03:39 Quote Reply
My name is B. David Mehmet and I'm the real damn deal and I don't allow anyone to take advantage of me and break the law in doing so. When Paypal violated me this week, I immediately went to the court house yesterday and filed a lawsuit against them for (1) Fraud, (2) Conversion and (3) Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress. Paypal not only harmed me with my Paypal account; but the inability to forward the payments to the third-parties has caused me to lose two (2) contracts. One of the contracts is valued in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Even after I supplied Paypal with the additional verification they requested, they still failed to release my funds. They then claimed that I owed them money from an old account in the amount of $695.00. Not only did they not send me proof of this debt or allow me to access the old account; but they are still holding $1,950.00 of my money, which is $1,255 above what they claim I owe them.
I've established this TOPIC so everyone can see that suing Paypal is easy, and that this is the fastest way to resolve any dispute when it comes to Paypal. In addition, you could also win punitive damages against Paypal since this is habitual behavior with Paypal. Their behavior creates a pattern of behavior that can be used to prove tortious conduct against them.
The following is my OPINION: Litigation process in New York
1) Request that the offending party to remedy the situation
2) File a Complaint with the court and purchase an Index#
3) Have a process server serve Paypal with the complaint
4) Paypal will have 20-30 Days to Answer the complaint
5) File an RJI (Request for Judicial Intervention). The judge will be assigned.
6) File a request for a PC (Preliminary Conference). The schedule for the litigation will
be established and when the Notice of Trial is to be filed. This includes the completion of all
discovery. You will have an opportunity to request Paypal to produce executives from their office to
attend a deposition where you will be able to ask them any relevant questions. If they fail to answer
any relevant questions, you can make a Motion to Compel their answer. The Judge will force them to
answer.
7) This is a good time to make a summary motion. A motion that will end the case in your favor. It tells the court that there are no trialable issues of fact that would warrant a trial. Paypal would have to establish that there are issues of fact, which at times is not hard to do; but they must be of a material nature. Just because there are issues of fact doesn't mean it will win them a denial of the motion. For example, you could move against Paypal for LIABILITY. Your argument is that after you satisfied Paypal's request for additional verification, Paypal still refused to release your funds on the grounds that there was still a pending investigation (issue of fact). However, because you supplied them with the requested verification and the alleged debt to them for $695.00 does not justify them holding the balance of $1,255.00 of your money, the could rule that the issue of fact by Paypal is not of a material nature as to the $1,255.00 balance and the judge would grant the summary motion on liability against Paypal. The remaining issue at this time is DAMAGES. If paypal's wrongful conduct caused you to lose some type of benefit, Paypal could be liable to you for that lose. Thus, damages could be very high against paypal. This would be compensatory damages. Punitive damages is another story. Because it can be proven that Paypal's tortious conduct is of a habitual nature, they would be hit with huge punitive damages to punish them and deter them from engaging in this conduct again. Since Paypal has been doing this to thousands of members even after it settled a prior class action lawsuit, Paypal can really be hit hard with serious punitive damages.
8) At the end, the trial occurs. If the case is not fully disposed of before this point.
Keep following this TOPIC for continuous UPDATES on the lawsuit against Paypal in New York.
this is from another site. I HOPE HE WINS this lawsuit!!!
Mehmet _vs_Paypal NewYorkIndex# 110537/07 - UPDATE
Sent: 08-02-2007 10:53 Quote Reply
LAWSUIT UPDATE:
When viewing the following images, just enlarge them. This is the Summons and Complaint that was filed yesterday in the Supreme Court, New York County against Defendant Paypal, Inc. It is currently in the process servers possession who is serving it today on Defendant Paypal, Inc.
Summons:
http://www.geocities.com/mbk20001/Summons.jpg
Complaint:
http://www.geocities.com/mbk20001/Complaint.jpg
twice ebay has stopped me from selling a peice of ham radio equipment because they THINK it might be an illegal item that could be used on cb radio :(
Then I was paid for an item thru paypal and 2 days later the person that bought it decided to beat me out of the money. he called his bank and had payment stopped and paypal withdrew the money from my account and billed me for it... whats wrong with this picture?
I had a transaction on Ebay October 16 2007, Did not ship for weeks.
I asked the seller to cancel the transaction and return my money. He refused to reply to my email and could not phone him, despite putting NEW sale items on ebay, and while RESPONDING to my questions on the NEW ITEMS. The seller refused to respond to my inquiries of where my product was, when I would receive it, and my demands to cancel the transaction
I registered a complaint with Ebay and Paypal, no satisfaction.
I finally received the product (power supply for my laptop). The time I could not use my laptop was difficult. Kept me from working. The product came too late, and I had to resolve this locally.
December 1 2007 I received an email from the seller that he placed negative feedback ON ME, even though I payed within hours. I've NEVER HAD NEGATIVE FEEDBACK!
The Seller wants to PAY ME $100 to remove the negative feedback on BOTH of our accounts. -I responded to him that $100 isn't enough, I need $300. (Extortion can work 2 ways, can't it?) I was happy to just leave this as negative feedback to him, but NOW, this has incited me to action. -I won't accept negative feedback on me, and I don't like this!
I believe EBAY knows this occurs and wants everyone to think FEEDBACK is truthful. It isn't! This case shows why!
I will email you the copy of all emails created to EXTORT my reversal of the TRUE FEEDBACK which damages EBAY. This isn't about the seller NOT SHIPPING, or NOT COMMUNICATING, this is about EBAY creating DAMAGE CONTROL to the entire infrastructure.
Ebay is most profitable when EVERYBODY looks GOOD.
This problem isn't good for me or the seller. BUT the truth at the earliest point could have corrected this and kept it from being amplified.
Bless Your Thoughts.
Contacting The FBI
By Cal S.
I'd recommend contacting the FBI of Los Angeles, White Collar Crime Division. If you have any documentation of instances where Paypal has practiced unlawful cases. I know you have tons of information. They are interested in hearing them, and if there are complaints that backup some of the things that I have been saying, they would be willing to open a case against the company. You appear to have the resources to prove that there are tons of complaints, and I would like to forward them, along with any federal trade commission complaints and reports to the L.A. Federal Bureau of Investigation. They have no right to dictate the use of arbitration and limit consumer trades. I'm sure you understand the many practices of ridiculousness that the company has engaged in over the years, and their practices need to be investigated.
I'd be willing to put together a report of documentation of what has been going on with the company and of all pertainant litigations and complaints. You seem to have a resource for accessing many or a lot of these. I am also looking to contact the Federal Trade Commission, and see if we can get what they have on this.
They have no right to hold on to monies that are not theirs. They have no right to discriminate against who they choose. They have no right to blacklist other companies and individuals based on relation or suspect. If they are a corporation they need to be regulated under legal and governmental practices for an American Corporation.
Let me know anything you may have so I can help get that information to the FBI of Los Angeles please! Any thoughts, or means to get in contact with me would be greatly appreciated. I look forward to a response. Please respond back in a timely fashion so that we can get something done with this.
PAYPAL CARRIES MASTERCARD AND CARRIERS DO NOT GET PROTECTION? IS THIS LEGAL?
Just a question that came into my mind. How can MAStercard allow this to happen????
IN EBAY AND PAYPAL's WORLD
in painpal an ebay's world there are no warnings.in their world there is no second chances. in ebay and painpal's world YOU are guilty beyond reasonable doubt. In their world there in no further investigation based on their "risk model" you are treated as a criminal without a hearing. PainPal and eBay are Russian Roulette games...
This youtube video shows how ebay helps seller to open and close the store. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Jzc1V_1gC0
See ebay fee difference at http://pages.ebay.com/sell/announcement200607/overview/fees.html
If you item is listed less than $25, seller's final charge will be $3.53, that is 14%, current yearly interest rate is only 6%. Why sell at ebay and let it take weekly interest rate of 14%?
Why Ebay only announce fake paypal sign up(because 20% cash back and write off later)? Because the ebay seller subscription rate drops so fast that it will be disaster if they announce the ebay store closing rate.
If you use google product search http://www.google.com/prdhp?tab=wf ,
you could find best value product as google has merchant feedback review score. Usually they are at least 15% cheaper than the items at ebay with less shipping charge because no paypal and ebay transaction fee. And buyer has freedom to choose whatever payment method for security without expose their full privacy.
There are other nice treat at http://www.my3cents.com/companyReview.cgi?compid=41&subcat=29
Want to know how ebay treats its loyal seller, check out
http://blog.pixnet.net/applbite/category/753786
Ebay claim only Paypal is most trustworthy for buyer and seller. How
that could be without infringe more personal privacy information?
See other ebay seller talking about paypal
http://blogs.ebay.com/cypress-surplus
on the Cyber MOnday hot list this year was AMZN,DELL,BBY, but not EBAY.
Just did search on ebay for "New Dell Core 2 Duo Laptop", the cheapest is $620. If I go to use coupons and 3% cash back from http://www.fatwallet.com/cash-back-coupons.php, it will be less than $549. That is why ebay never show up in the http://www.dealcatcher.com as there is no good deal there, only junks or the same item plus ebay and paypal transaction fee.
Serious Privacy Issue In Ebay !
Because Paypal belongs to Ebay, most seller expose their finanical and privacy information to ebay. That is not normal for regular auction house. Does Ebay use that privacy information for other purpose? If Ebay use Paypal's privacy information for ebay's registration or monitoring purpose, is that illegal?
Normal online shopping site has third party credit authentication, If you want to cancel the transaction, you could simply do so calling your credit card company. Ebay could keeps all your personal information in his company.
Since eBay allows buyers that don't pay to leave feedbacks and it will still charge listing fee and final fee. As they control seller's payment source, so seller has no choice.
Here's my story. I'm dropping both of these bums. Thanks to everyone.
.....
Being a lover of all things dragon I was quite excited when I found the Dragon Tobacco Pipe on Ebay being sold by the Ebay store ********* aka Sharon ******* from Southport, Florida. I looked at the seller's rating and saw it was above 99% so I bid and won. Overall cash outlay - about $10.52 with shipping.
I made electronic payment with 24 hours and waited patiently for my prize. The pipe arrived about 4 days later by USPS priority mail. I eagerly opened the package. Disappointment immediately overtook me.
What I had received from this Ebay seller was not a tobacco pipe as advertised but a pipe intended for the smoking of marijuana, crack, or hash. I've never used illegal substances in my life, but I've had enough exposure to know what these various devices look like. Hell, I don't even know any drug dealers! It's useless to me!
The pipe was molded from a painted acrylic resin. Within its narrow almost one-half inch wide bowl was seated a shallow brass cup about 3/8” high. This pipe was designed to get really, really hot. Tobacco pipes tend to have large deep bowls and are designed to keep the smoke relatively cool. The pipe's bowl outlet was a small pinhole with no filter.
I immediately showed the pipe to two of my work mates. They conferred it was a crack/marijuana pipe. If there had been a photo from the top I would have known immediately what this item was. Now I was angry. How dare anyone send me an illegal item as this -especially the day before Thanksgiving. The law is quite specific regarding sale of these items through the mail.
I went over the law and Ebay's policy regarding these items and also their legal link. I wanted to make sure this was actually illegal before I pursued any actions. http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/21/863.html
I contacted the seller regarding the item and stated the above with the same link. I explained these items are not tobacco pipes. She then stated, “Well, I buy and sell them as tobacco pipes. What people actually do with them is their own business. A lot of people buy them because they collect dragons.” I stated I wanted my money back (the least of my concerns) plus the shipping and handling. I also stated I could not legally ship this item back to her.
She then wrote back that unless the item was returned, she wouldn't refund. I then told her I would take the issue up with Ebay, the credit card company (Paypal), and the proper authorities. I also told her i wasn't aware of any law that made these items legal because they were considered attractive or “collectible.”
I tried to contact immediately Ebay regarding the problem but they wouldn't allow a dispute until at least 10 days had passed. Personally, I feel this is a stupid policy especially when a felony has been committed (by mailing the item.) I'd settle down and wait till Friday.
On Friday, I paid a visit to my friendly neighborhood US postmaster. I explained the item that was sent to me was being represented as a “tobacco” pipe. What was sent was a contraband pipe for illegal substances. She immediately confirmed it was for drug use and gave me the number for the US postal inspectors office in Florida. I decided to wait till Monday since I was having phone problems. Meanwhile, I left negative feedback on the page explaining the items real function and that is was not for tobacco. I made no comments regarding the seller herself. From her attitude, I knew she would retaliate. She stated she had sold 100's of these pipes. My only thought was how many kids lives had she aided to ruin.
Buyer Feedback (me): Drug paraphernalia for crack/hash not tobacco. Is resin with small brass cup.
On Saturday, I filed a claim with Paypal. I then realized my first mistake. I should have examined the seller's feedback more in detail not simply the percentages. Sprinkled through the positive comments were occasional neutral and other negative comments regarding this item's unfitness for tobacco. Anyone that had made a negative comment was accused of being a dead beat buyer. Still no one except I had made a comment regarding what the item was- drug paraphernalia!
Further checking revealed she was also selling items regarding demonic magic. She was selling a link for $1.99. Multiple complaints stated the link was actually a free website! The materials weren't even hers.
Wonderful, I thought. This person might be a drug dealer that practices black magic that has no problems with misrepresentation of the truth. So much for morals. On late Sunday the seller decided to leave negative feedback regarding me. She totally made up lies claiming I had made violent legal threats against her and that I was a deadbeat trying to get the item for free. Her attack was personal. Any lawyers think I have a case for libel?
Seller Feedback: BEWARE OF THIS BUYER: makes violent legal threats want free items, mental issues.
[What exactly are “violent” legal threats? I simply explained the law with the link above.]
During the dispute process Ebay reveals the phone numbers and addresses of the plaintiffs to one another. This practice should stop immediately. If you are dealing with a psychotic, it could put your life in danger. This person took my personal information from Ebay... phone number, address, and email and starting signing me up at various sites for heroin/drug addiction. The information was available only at Ebay and Paypal from the way I had organized it.
I contacted Ebay and Paypal regarding the ID theft. Yes, this is ID theft also. I also complained about the retaliatory feedback that was essentially lies. This seller should be kicked of Ebay and Paypal.
What surprised me most is Ebay's foot dragging on this issue. A drug paraphernalia dealer totally trashes my 100% satisfaction rating, makes libelous comments against me, and all Ebay ever seems to do is issue forms letters with names attached. They then tell me its is their policy to show all feedback even if its is untrue or unjustified unless they get a court order to remove it. What total bull crap.
I will kill my account because I feel Ebay corporation has no morals. Its all about money in their own pocket. Sellers beware - unjustified negative feedback can ruin your business but leave Ebay laughing all the way to the bank. I'll just take my business elsewhere.
Ebay wants your money and asks you to be a good citizen/"community member", but when you stand up to criminal elements they drop you like a hot potato. They then allow these elements to harass you, steal your identity, ruin your business, and also ruin your reputation while hiding behind a “user agreement.” Ebay needs to learn that loyalty is a two way street.
Ebay is now returning my emails unanswered claiming it was not received. WTF does that mean? All ny emails now bounce. I had sent then the details of the ID theft down to the IP and time and they refused to acknowledge it.
Do your fellow human a favor - dump Ebay until they get reasonable policies, complain, and leave negative feedback when justified.
Hopefully, the postal inspector will be back in contact with me very soon.
Death to Ebay!
Ebay has kind of turned into the Umbrella corporation where as they are now taking over and ruling everyone's lives.
No matter how many petitions,auction sites,etc we make they will be here forever...I came to that sad conclusion recently. The more warnings or the more complaints from both buyers and sellers,the more people WANT it. Unless sellers and buyers totally boycott the site,it will be going nowhere.
Buyer would rather use credit card than paypal because
it will give cash back or mileage.
For seller, paypal charges higher transaction fee than
http://www.billmelater.com and "Google checkout".
Ebayer has no choice for "google checkout" or "billmelater".
With buyers get smarter, they could find cheap new item at
http://www.dealcatcher.com for desktop/notebook or http://www.onsale.com
for apple macs. Also with fee increase and powerseller leaving,
remaining ebayer sellers have to raise the price for the cost, that
means ebay buyers are difficult to find cheap item.
Check ebay forum for fee increase issue at
http://forums.ebay.com/db1/thread.jspa?threadID=410430259
My comments was posted at ebay forum
http://forums.ebay.com/db1/thread.jspa?messageID=1011028009
I just posted few comments last night. And today my account is blocked. I got no notice in email as well as no explanation. Is the reason such unreasonable and hard to explain? See the "blocked with no reason" screenshot at
http://lh4.google.com/ebayblockednoreaason/R0xi3Asj9kI/AAAAAAAAABY/4L5G4Xogj3c/blockedfornoreason.PNG
What is ebay spirit, Fair or Unfair, Freedom or Non-Freedom, Non-Greedy or Greedy?
PayPal employees steals from people!!!
http://www.paypalwarning.com/paypal_employee_theft
Check www.petitiononline.com. There are about 30000 angry ebay seller. Most seller got ripped off from fee increase(check the difference at http://pages.ebay.com/sell/announcement200607/overview/fees.html)
I think we should have a seller union to stand up like real man and strike the ebay. So they will not forget who made them successful.
another paypal petition with a hundred ( 100 ) signatures!!!
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/tpc
PAYPAL PETITION! with close to 3,000 signatures!!!! sign it!!!lets all stand together!
http://paypalpetition.com/petition/petition.shtml
Account Restored and Balance Returned to £0 after a chargeback
Sent: 11-17-2007 13:18 Quote Reply
To cut a long story short, I was ripped off by a fraudulent buyer when I sold a mobile phone on ebay for £360.
I received the payment through Paypal and sent the phone.
I then received a notification from Paypal telling me I am the victim of a chargeback from the buyers credit card and they took the money from my Paypal account leaving me with a negative balance of -£360.
I of course disputed this from the start as I had definate proof of delivery from Royal Mail.
I contacted the Financial Ombudsman with my complaint and they wrote to Paypal on my behalf.
After waiting nearly 4 weeks I got my final response from Paypal.
As a goodwill gesture they have restored my account and re-imbursed me the full amount.
This goes to prove that persistance pays off eventually and that the help of the Financial Ombudsman is invaluable!.
Dont give up, you cant win if you don't try!.
FINANCIAL OMBUDSMAN SERVICE- http://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk