Why eBay Sucks
I sold some stuff on eBay for the first time. When I received the bill, I signed up for it to be paid automatically via my PayPal account. Life's great, eh?
Not so fast. A month later, eBay hits me with late fees and puts my eBay account on hold. Turns out, they didn't debit PayPal automatically as I'd asked them to. Instead, I was supposed to divine that auto-pay works only for invoices received after auto-pay is set up.
You might say that is predictable. In fact, that is how my bank works. When I sign up for e-bills or auto-pay, my bank warns that it might not kick in right away and that I should pay manually for the next billing cycle.
So here is my defense:
eBay and PayPal are part of the same company. Someone should be able to figure this out.
Not convinced? Fine, either was I. So when I first signed up for auto-pay, I asked eBay customer service when my account would be debited. They said it would happen in 5 or 10 days. They mentioned nothing about it *not* happening in the first billing cycle. Obviously, I was asking about that because people who had been using the service for more than a month wouldn't be asking the question!
Still not convinced? Fine, you're a skeptic. So am I. So when I didn't notice a debit (shortly before the payment was due--30 days after the invoice was sent), I again contacted customer support at eBay. Should I pay manually, I asked? No, they said, that would just result in a double payment and confuse everyone.
Okay, so I'm a lunatic raging against the machine, right? No, nothing of the sort. I calmly contacted customer service, asked them to remove the late fee and reinstate my account. Everyone makes mistakes, and they were entitled to a second chance.
Instead, they gave me the runaround through 10 emails, refusing to credit (drum roll please....) 8 cents! They insisted that because I wouldn't accept blame for their systems' limitations that I somehow did not understand them. The coup de grace (sp?) was their customer service rep (ironically named "Grace") chastising me to make sure I wouldn't let this happen again in the future.
So to summarize, eBay customer service sucks even worse than their software.
Can anyone recommend a better auction site with a liquid market in BrixWear T-shirts?
Give me your eBay horror stories.
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Ebay has very poor customer service especially for sellers.
I think these customer service clowns are just sitting at home and getting paid per phone call or email by ebay.. OUTSOURCING..!
Ebay supports thieves and all the time wasted for buyers who never pay or buyers who lie.
Sellers cannot fight false negative feedback..!
It seems that anyone can open up a FAKE ebay account and buy stuff without paying.
You have to wait 15 days to get your selling fees back and then you just relist your auctions...LOTS of WASTED time...!
It is a ONE WAY deal with ebay.. TOTAL UNPROFESSIONAL Bullcrap..!!
I wish the share holders or US courts make ebay become a neutral place to sell items instead of a 50% negative experience.
How we have feesbay.com The Only auction site in the world to off YOU a Residual Income. Does eBay Would they YES to the SHARE HOLDERs
My ebay account was apparently phished. I spent £50+ on the telephone (£1.50 a minute) to their customer services, which seemed to be one person in a room who didn't care/have a clue, & they didn't even send me the promised email to help me retrieve my account. I mailed them, literally 39 times about this, but never received a non-automated/copy-paste response. The worst company, bar Fedex, that I have ever dealt with.
My ebay account was apparently phished. I spent £50+ on the telephone (£1.50 a minute) to their customer services, which seemed to be one person in a room who didn't care/have a clue, & they didn't even send me the promised email to help me retrieve my account. I mailed them, literally 39 times about this, but never received a non-automated/copy-paste response. The worst company, bar Fedex, that I have ever dealt with.
This is a must see video
Cappnonymous Live On ebaY
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Me4SXL2Bh8
pay yours fees with multiple credit cards, ie.a dollar on each one, that way they pay multiple fees:D
I have a couple of things on Ebay right now but once these sell (or not) I am done!!! I got neg feedback for postal service time!! I cant even respond! Ebay is not for the small seller it is for the buyer and big sellers!
I also had a horrible experience with Ebay/Paypal. I was a power seller, 100% positive feedback, had been a seller for years...until Ebay one day decided to "hold" over $2000 of my money claiming I had a second (old) account on which I owed money. I didn't, they didn't belive me, they told me to prove I wasn't that person (?!), I told them to prove I was! I told them to stop (stealing) holding my money hostage, they told me they could for 180 days (it's actually in their terms of use we agree to, look it up). I waited 180 days, they wouldn't give me my money until I paid that other account, I refused, I took them to court (they say in their terms of service you can't, but the court says that's against the law), I won, I got my money. It only took me 7 months!
The point: horrific customer service; horrible management; blackmailing/extorting users and the CEO at the time, Meg Whitman, is NOW RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR OF CALIFORNIA!!!!!! I've experienced Ebay, can you imagine what she would do to the residents of California?!
On 12 March 2009, just after I received “instant payment” notification, PayPal (eBay’s own company) requested copy of my passport, copy of my driving licence and copy of my utility bills. Suspecting a hoax I refused to provide copies of such documents, and on further requests too, as there is never any guarantee as to the safety of such documents and ultimately to the safety of my identity once the documents are dispatched.
At the same time without any warning, PayPal restricted access to my account (I could not withdraw money) in which account I had approximately $800 US that constituted over $ 1,200 Australian at that time. On this occasion, PayPal failed to instruct me that I still could change my US dollars to AU dollars to prevent any fluctuation in value of AU dollars balance.
At the time, I had an automatic payment arrangement in place with eBay/PayPal with two credit cards, and two or three bank accounts; each of them was more than capable to cover my seller’s fees; of no fault of mine and entirely of eBay/PayPal choice, they neglected to debit my seller’s fees from any of these accounts.
Late in March, eBay sent me a message that PayPal (eBay’s company) refused to pay $100.71 to eBay and they requested me to make one off payment; in my response I wrote that PayPal holds my $1,200 and it is ridiculous from them to demand another $100.71 as they could use any other payment option as per automatic payment agreement.
The matter has been dragged by PayPal and eBay until VCAT (Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal) hearing in early September; eventually PayPal decided to release my funds, that at this time were only worth AU$ 913 instead of AU$1,200. Because of eBay/PayPal actions, I suffered a direct loss of over $300 due to currency devaluation and indirect loss in sales that I could not undertake.
After the release of my funds, I sent to PayPal my cheque payment of $100.71 as per original due; I did not believe that I should pay any interest on that money as eBay could debit either of my credit cards, or my bank accounts, but chose not to.
Additionally, eBay/PayPal used my funds - interest free for the same period of 180 days so I could not see any sense in having to pay $6.30 in interest on $100.71 while eBay/PayPal having the right of not paying me any interest on my $1,200.
Finally, based on my experience with eBay/PayPal, I consider these companies a bunch of common thieves, crooks and robbers; I will never use eBay/PayPal “services” again and I urge anyone who does to reconsider pros and cons as they can hit you as they did it to me.
W. M. (Melbourne, Australia)
@Diversity210
I really doubt that EVERYONE that is ranting against GreedBay is a newbie although I guess to you it seems that way.GreedBay has been going steadily downhill for years and more and more people are getting fed up with their Draconian rules and Outrageous policies and/or the Fees.
I notice that everyone on here talking bad about ebay is new to ebay. I mean come on. Most people just get on ebay for the first time and find what seems to be a good deal and bid. You guys are the type of people that should use another website to buy and sell your items, because you are the people that make buying and selling on ebay a bad experience. Before you bid you should read the buying guids and rules and you should do some research on the person you intend to buy and item from like paying attention to their feedback score and reading the feedback that other buyers have left for them. When you sell on ebay you should read up on everything before you deside to sell your items. There are ways to block bids from people that dont pay and make transactions hard. Just because you guys were idiots and didnt know what you were doing when you were bidding or selling and had a bad experience dont but it on the whole company. To be honest all of you guys talking bad on it suck and just dont know what your doing when you log on to ebay. I have been using ebay and payal for years now and, they top every other similar site. Why do you think every website that you go to now a days you can pay using paypal, because they are a good secure way to pay for your items online. Why do you think that ebay is the biggest site world wide to buy and sell just about anything. I think before you guys get on here and talk about how much ebay sucks; you should educate yourselves, because to be honest with you. You people dont know what the hell your talking about.
ultimatesports
I'm in! Put me on the class action let's go!
And this, more evidence that eBay does, in fact suck. Pay Pal sucks too!
Here is my recent experience.
2 Months ago I joined. I Bought 3 or 4 things. I Paid fast, got positive feedback.
Started to sell. My first 5 auctions were won by non-paying bidders. My next two were won and paid for in a reasonable time frame. Each sale involved an Apple computer and a buyer who didn't know how to use one. So, with positive feedback held dangling over my head, I spent a minimum of 72 hours on the phone as a "self help" tutor because neither of them would leave feedback until they were completely happy with their purchase. I had no choice.
My next auction was a new iPhone. It was bid on, won and paid for quickly. I couldn't believe it. I didn't have to call, send an invoice or file a non paying bidder strike. ALAS! SO, when I went to print a shipping label, I found that I had limited access to my paypal account (can't send or receive money) and my eBay account was suspended. PayPal had limited access to MY MONEY, claiming that they had linked me to a 5 year old account that owed $600. Whether it was mine or not was not the question. I had been convicted. They were now holding $2500 against an alleged $600, 5-year old debt. After another 5 hours on the phone, they asked me to fill out forms, submit supplier information, show proof of delivery for the items that I shipped. It took an hour or so to upload them. Its been 8 days since I submitted the documents. They have not gotten to them yet.
In the meantime, the guy who won the iPhone got nervous because on the day of my account suspenstion, eBay sent him an email that said I might be fraudulent. Slanderous? Ya think? I refunded his money.
The final transaction was an iPhone that I purchased. It arrived. It was fake. Take a look. I filed a dispute, but can't escalate that one to a claim for another 4 days. Take a look.
http://web.me.com/mr60spot4/iPhone_Scam/index.html
So, in short, you are the fortunate one if you don't have an eBay account. While they claim that the business survives solely on the premise that "people are good, " the entire business model is geared to accuse and convict cyber-criminals, untried. If you think you are not an identity thief or a cyber criminal, don't be so sure. You might want to ask eBay or Pay Pal. They'll tell you whether or not you are.
And no, the $600 negative account was not mine. Was it yours? Sign up for an account. You'll be sure to find out.
They just suck.
i found ebid and i think it is a pretty nice auction site
http://www.ebid.net
there are lots of auction sites, everyone tries t open one but so far non of them have been successfully.
exept ebid :)
cheers
randy
Hi, I think ebay is the worst auction site ever, since they got a big head from many signing up with them. Now they dont reply to emails either, and i am still waiting 2 days later for an explanation. I have a shop on there with perfect 100% feedback and they have stopped me from selling for a month, can you believe it. My store is wickidjewells4u, check it out, and you will see i have perfect feedback. They are an auction store after all, not a retail site, and i urge people to sign up with other sites and give them a go. You will find better service by far, and great wholesalers that you dont have to pay to get their information. Try it, and i think you will agree. Thank you for listening to me whinge. all my regards from wickidgypsy
ebay.... too disappointing.... my story told me if you get a naughty buyer, you are done!
What can i do? left feedback with honest words? no, ebay removed. Follow up? no, removed again.
The negative comment buyer left for me. sorry, i need to write to remove it.
Seems there is no freedom of speech in ebay. Buyer is the king.
this is a Joke of unequally ebay. true story, i canceled my account for good.
Hi eBay "fans"
I have started a new eBay / online auction fraud, complaint, etc. reporting forum and would love any substantiated wrong doing complaints to be posted there;
http://www.vbay.me
My intention is to get eBay users to publicly complain, feedback, warn, etc. in a central repository so that it helps others / unites efforts to stop the wrongdoings by eBay. If enough people use vbay.me it could really hurt bad practice one way or another.
Also, if you get a chance to look over my forums, I am always open to advice / suggestions.
Regards
Mark
i lost a few tousand dollar with ebay and paypal and they just dont care and ignore my warnings that i will use legal action against them. here is my story:
in february 2009 i sold a broadcast camera to someone for 2000$. the buyer wanted to pay me with paypal but obviously it did not work, so he tried a second time which did also not work. god knows why, anyway we managed then to make the payment in cash when he picks up the camera and this worked fine. later i found out that my paypal account was blocked. when i asked for the reason they told me that my account has ben flagged for money laundring because i recieved more than 4000$!!
i told them what happened but they refused to unblock my account, keep telling me i recieved more than 4000 US$ and i have to send a copy of my DL and a utility bill where my current adress is clearly visible. i asked them in a nice manner to have a close look at my account and that the payment was not sucessfully and i only have 90$ on my account. then they told me that even a "attemt money transfer is considered as sucessfull" WTF!! huh???
at this time i had another auction on ebay for a custom bike which then was removed by ebay because they tought it was a fraud. they then told me i have to prove that i am in posession of this bike and again i have to send them a copy of my DL and a utility bill to prove my adress.
i hardly doubt that this is completely legal? i dont think they are suposed to ask you for your DL and such sensible data! ebay is not a govt. office.
btw for stuff i have sold in the time of this matter, the payments went into my paypal account which is still blocked. there is now about 2300US$ on my paypal account and it is closed! my paypal account does not even exist anymore. they just stole my money.
fuck ebay and fuck paypal.
oh yeah and the "you MUST use paypal" policy sucks as well.
i used to be a fan of ebay but now.....
Unbelievable how ebay is still #1 auction site! It has horrible service. As the guy above puts it "bloated garbage code ridden waste of time does not work right" hits it right on the head. In the dark ages.
Can't another Gates, Brin, Page, etc. found a better auction site?
PAYPAL, AN EBAY COMPANY, ARE NOW STARTING TO HOLD FUNDS OF THEIR SELLERS
WITHOUT CAUSE AND WITHOUT WARNING.
THEY WERE FINED BY NEW YORK STATE AND LOST MILLIONS IN A LAWSUIT FOR THIS
YET THEY JUST STARTED DOING IT AGAIN.
BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMY THEY MAY BE IN TROUBLE AND THERE IS NO PROTECTION AS THEY ARE NOT A BANK.
PAYPAL ACCOUNT HOLDERS:
DO NOT SEND OUT ANY MERCHANDISE UNTIL YOU CAN VERIFY THE PAYMENT IS IN YOUR BANK!
DO NOT TRUST PAYPAL, DON'T BE A VICTIM!
DO NOT USE PAYPAL AS A PAYMENT METHOD!
DO NOT GIVE THEM ANY BANKNING INFORMATION!
KEEP UPDATED ON PAYPAL BY GOING TO:
Paypalwarning.com
PaypalSucks.com
Screw-Paypal.com
EbaySucks.com
Aboutpaypal.org
Paypalpetition.com
EbayPigs.com
http://www.ygoodman.com/paypal.asp
NoPaypal.com
***PLEASE SEND THIS TO SOMEONE YOU KNOW WHO USES EBAY AND/OR PAYPAL
SO THEY CAN PROTECT THEMSELVES.
quite simply everyone should start finding new auction places to sell.
Tell all your friends about them and people you have sold to. Spread the word basically.
Here's a good one.
www.oztion.com.au
and a good replacement for paypal is
www.paymate.com
I'm beginning to read more and more posts about people upset with ebay. I have some good news for you.
With the help of some national radio publicity, some people started an auction site and they are going after the people who have been wronged by ebay. It appears they are gaining ground!
This site is getting national attention so hurry and get your items on there now. Their first 25,000 listings are FREE and final value fees are as much as 80% cheaper than ebay's and much easier to understand!! Also you can bring your feedback with you!
Read about their Anti-Sniping feature which is very beneficial to Sellers and also buyers. They have lots of other cool features as well. Just go to w ww . JaGetit . com (take out the spaces)
http://JaGetIt.com
Look out ebay! Here comes someone who cares about the customer!!!
I used to do ebay a lot but now they suck suck SUCK! The site is a broken down bogged down spyware and bloated garbage code ridden waste of time does not work right. Plus WTF is this Paypal only crap? I do not trust Paypal with my info and will never use those scamming crook-tards
How about this? I sold on eBay, not professionally, just occasionally. I got a negative feedback from a buyer. That feedback down-rated me from 100% positive - after exclusively positive feedback over the past six years.
Feedback revision time window has closed, but it turns out the buyer - 1st time buyer! - has revised/amended his feedback, in a positive comment to the negative one he gave. Or so I thought.
So I contact eBay, to delete, since neither of us can retract/revise the negative feedback now. eBay refuses.
So I contact the buyer. Says he, in writing: someone else abused my account. eBay says, in writing: we cannot do anything about it.
Canceling my account, both as a seller & a buyer. Too much bad energy involved, as far as I am concerned.
It's mid 2009 and there is STILL no alternative to FeePay in sight. Throughout the entire internet... it is rotten, corrupt, broken and unworkable... and the only game in town. I saw ebay's stock prices today and they went up a few points... even though... nobody... is using... the site........ The manipulated stock prices are as phony as John Donahoe's smile. Nobody can deny the massive amounts of corruption going around these days. It's so bad that it's comical. Anybody who can't see it would have to be legally retarded. This country is starting to feel more and more like communist China everyday.
Ebay is destroying his own business model. High transactions fees and no control at all to filter away the bad Ebay sellers.
Since they change the way they list the products, it's hard for good sellers to make money on Ebay. It's becoming like a flea market.
There are good sellers, but too many bad sellers make the entire Ebay marketplace almost a piece of junk. Bad Ebay sellers has no customer service at all. No phone number to answer questions of the customers. Not easy to refund the products, even with a money back guarantee. In fact, they don't want you to refund the product.
And worst of all, these bad Ebay sellers copy the description and pictures from other online stores without asking.
I have seen some great sellers on Ebay with wonderful pictures and creative sales copy writing.
That's a lovely story. Ok how about this? this happened about a month ago. ok you ready? sure here I go. I got caned from eBay just because I sold a G1 phone and then I made a file to not sell the phone. ok the buyer agreed that he wasn't going to buy it, I sent his money back.. guess how.. yep you guessed it PAYPAL! then a day later my account was suspended for unusual transactions... how messed up was that? verry... not mad just pissed... but hey life goes on I found ldbidz.com it's a free auction site not many sales but it's a start.
P.s I hate eBay with a passion.
I had been selling on Ebay for about 7 years and each year they managed to figure out a new way to suck even worse than the year before. When they stopped allowing sellers to leave negative feedback for buyers who try to rip us off or practice poor business, that was the last straw. How can you allow the buyer to leave negative feedback and not the seller????
I use some of the smaller satellite auction sites who still care about their customers now. www.aucks.com is a good one. As they say over at AUCKS: Ebay sucks. AUCKS ROCKS!!!
Here is an idea:
Everyone that sells items, make it a norm to contact the buyer to pay you with a certified check, money order or whatever safe method of payment. Make sure the buyer understands and truthfully tell them PayPal's criminal fees. And when you are done with the transaction and the buyer is happy with the item, go on to your "My eBay"'s and do a "Transaction Cancellation process". After both parties are happy with the outcome. You will get your final value fees back.
Offer free shipping, etc. Hire employees to make phone calls, etc. You will make more money than paying eBay fees. Make sure you have several back up accounts. Feedback don't matter, as long as you have a few. Just contact the buyer as a courtesy, talk about baseball or whatever. You'll make a new friend too :)
If eBay was selling air, breathing outside of eBay would be "against their policies"! This is AMERICA and we should be allowed to trade freely.
ultimatesports : I am with you on this. I will do anything required to bring down those criminals. What do I need to do?
Give me your email. We should put together a group that'll create dummy accounts or find find with accounts already and attack eBay with a flood of purchases, leave negatives, open disputes, scare sellers away, etc. Like an underworld group to bring down eBay.
eBay and PayPal have the lowest form of integrity any company has ever had in the history. Where do I begin...
Just this week they have removed 3 of my listings for "listing voilation". The reason: I am obliged to accept PayPal and ONLY PayPal as a form of payment, I am not allowed to ask the buyers to contact me or anything. As if paying listing fees, final value fees is not enough, you HAVE to pay PayPal fees and PayPal criminal 8% currency conversion spread. I sold an item for more than I paid for recently and ended up with a loss after all the fees.
I had another item removed today for "policy violation", probably because I mentionned that a similar item went for $X. Easter weekend, 19 bids, 25 watchers and 200 viewers. eBay just does not care.
They mercilessly slander Western Union and MoneyGram as though if they were the crooks. PayPal has no protection. If a buyer gets screwed over, the only "protection" PayPal offers is freezing the seller's account and blocking/stealing his money.
eBay policy is simple: Squeeze out as much as possible from everyone. If a policy is sure to drive away 1 in 10 users, but will squeeze out an additional 10% out of the rest of the users, so be it.
Here is my policy: After selling an item, always call the buyers to pay me by a method other than PayPal. Clearly explain PayPal's criminal practices, fees, non-protection and how sending a certified check is just as traceable as any form payment. Give small discounts and slander PayPal as much as possible. The buyers will understand and feel comfortable. Makes no sense to give half of your money to a middle-man only to know that you won't get screwed over for the other half (when in fact you could just as well be).
eBay bullshits both buyers and sellers. I got my account suspended even after I paid for and received the item I bought. I've been robbed before on eBay and they don't protect the sellers or buyers. I can't wait for the day that eBay's ass is finally hit with a class action suit.
Hello
I got an idea, why don't we all buy stuff on ebay, and leave negative feedback for everyone. Even if the service is great, fucking trash ebay with negatives, and everyone will get kicked off and suspended.
Hopefully the end result would be to change the stupid system and start helping the seller and buyers equally or ebay would fold.
Thanks for posting this to your blog and giving others the space to vent.
Like you, I sold some stuff on eBay. OK, more like one item. A single item. A CD to be exact.
Paypal conveniently takes out their fees and knowing that eBay and Paypal are the same company I assumed that it included my listing fees. Seemed like an intuitive assumption to think that the same company wouldn't want to have to keep track of two ledgers from which to bill consumers right?
Not so fast. Conveniently not a mention was made that fees were owed to eBay. I have a credit card on file set up to take care of "automatic billing". Seems like they don't want to bother you with the details about having to owe money if you have automatic billing set up.
A month goes by and after 28 days of SILENCE from eBay I open my email to suddenly find three messages from the likes of eBay collections and account services. A few days back they tried to debit the card I had on file but it was declined because it was expired. Thus, eBay thinks it is in the clear to charge a $15 dollar fee for having the transaction denied.....denied because it was EXPIRED. This is information they have on file. Why kind of sucky software doesn't recognize that maybe an operation shouldn't be attempted because it will fail? Oh wait, yes, it makes more money to collect late fees that are a full 600% of the original bill.
Did they alert me the account information was expired? No. Again, why would they if it makes such a wonderful profit. Transaction denial fees aren't that high especially for a company that handles tens of thousands of transactions a day.
Lesson learned about selling on eBay. Don't bother unless you need a virtual storefront and intend to keep engaged with your eBay account at all times. Even then, from reading the other comments on here it seems even regular sellers are getting the shaft as well?
After trying to get a hold of anyone at eBay, I wrote this nasty message to them. The whole system is backwards.
Ok, mr nice guy is done. Time to be a jerk.
I have gotten the same F****** response from you people for over three weeks. "Strike removed by seller" or "Sorry for the Inconvienence"...don't care anymore. Your whole system is F****** backwards!!!! If you want me to pay for the items, send me the invoice. But, I can't send F****** messages to the people who gave me strikes because I can't get in My account!!!!!!! YOU WANT ME TO PAY, I'LL PAY! As long as I can't get into my account, I will just keep getting more stupid strikes on items I bought before it was suspended. I tried appealing items, but there is no point because I don't have a reason other than being locked out of the system. This E-Mail crap is driving me nuts and this should have been taken care of weeks ago. We can figure this out over the phone. P.s: You don't have a customer service number for me to contact!!! I am beyond mad (Perry) Or (Jimmy) or (Insert random name to make it seem personable) and a little customer appreciation for someone who has dropped over 3000 on your site in the past three months is expected.
Been using ebay for years. But I've finally had it. Some yahoo filed a report that the book I was selling amounted to copyright infringement; that somehow the book I wrote was in fact their book. Tried to explain it several times to the claimant and to ebay to no avail. The charge is completely false and yet ebay has suspended my listing privileges, effectively forcing me out of business despite a perfect record over 5+ years. It's hard to be an ebay fan anymore. I wish someone else would come along and give these creeps a run for their money.
Sellers on ebay have no recourse whatsoever. If you get a crooked buyer, you just get f---ed! Ebay won't do anything and thier partner in crime, PayPal is even worse. People should stop using Ebay and Paypal
I was posting an auction and got a message that I'd "reached my limit" but wouldn't have any trouble posting some items. When I asked what my limit was, they wouldn't tell me (they said they couldn't); when I asked what I could sell during the arbitrary 30-day limit period, they wouldn't tell me. Two simple, fair questions and they refused - repeatedly - to answer. To boot, their customer service rep on their chat line I used was a real a--h--e. I've had no problem with PayPal -- so far (knock wood).
Ebay screwed me over too. I had a perfect feedback score until recently. I sold a video game for my son for $12, brand new and sealed with a stock photo. The buyer insisted that he was bidding on a limited edition game and I had misrepresented the item. I did not do anything wrong. He demanded 4-5 dollars credited back to him or he would leave neg. feedback. I offered to give him a refund for return of the item. He wanted the item, but he wanted it for 5-6 bucks. I let him start a dispute then I esculated it to a claim and he knew he would loose so he closed the case and left neg. feedback. I contacted customer service several times and they say it is against their policy to remove feedback, even when it is clear that the buyer had blackmailed me. Ebay does not offer the seller any protection and I am quitting that sorry company for good. Who needs it? If I ever do buy anything else from eBay, I am going to leave negative feedback just because I can, and hopefully everyone will get p'd off and quit the stupid company.
unscrupulous buyer demands a $100. refund on false information. next he drops a big fat negative feedback into my perfect score. now i'm insulted to find i have zero recourse to explain this travesty. ebay say's i should wait a year for the bogus negative to fade away.
only thing that's gonna fade is my use of their expensive site.
and their cash cow, pay pal is off my radar for good.
Here is a good one. I have over 600 positive feedbacks in one year and eleven...that's right eleven negative in ONE year. I have 43 positive feedbacks in one month and 3 in one month. Well according to Mein Fuhror, the ebay powers that be, that is enough to suspend my account for 30 days. They never ask for the seller's point of view when people leave negative feedback. They just assume the buyer is leaving honest negative feedback. I received negative feedback a month after I sold and shipped the item. The person never emailed me and never told me there was a problem with the item. They just left the negative feedback and ebay in lock step accepted it. They dont even read the descriptions people leave. Meanwhile, the seller can't leave negative feedback for the buyer. EBAY doesnt even have a phone number to the very department that suspends your account (the trust and safety team)!!!! Of course, there is nothing that can be done becuase EBAY is a monopoly and no one has ever tried to file an ANTI-TRUST lawsuit against them. Who knows, maybe someone has. I am just very angry right now.
I cancelled my EBAY seller account months ago. They charge you $5 per month, this happens if you dont' sell anything.
And that is plain stupid. If you don't sell anything, you shouldn't be charged with anything. EBAY makes their profit by screwing people with the fees (listing fees and end of auction fees) and Paypal fees (considering that EBAY and Paypal are one company.
I was a Power Seller on eBay and did fairly well for many years, until the Gestapo like tactics were employed. I remember when eBay purchased PayPal, the hope was that the commerce unfriendly PayPal, could be persuaded into doing business more online with traditional monetary transferring houses. Unfortunately, the reverse occurred, eBay became extremely predatorily toward Sellers, limiting accounts without verification that the Seller did anything wrong, childishly canceling auctions moments before the end (generally at the discretion of a smug 21 yr. old kid, sitting at a PC terminal, drinking a latte with untied shoelaces); PayPal freezing monetary transactions for 180 days, conducting no investigation of wrongdoing, simply because of an implied Buyer comment of fraud - and PayPal profits from the interest of all these frozen assets? The list is endless. You can go to www.PayPalSucks.com, www.PayPalWarneing.com, etc, the list is endless of the misdeeds of eBay/PayPal, bordering and meeting the criteria of criminal relating to commerce.
The only solution is through the Court System; California and Federal Supreme Court. It would take a combined effort of all incumbent, and past eBay Sellers to retain advocates to force change in the manner eBay conducts commerce. Along the way, the Attorney’s would need to make a dear friend of the media, ensuring eBay/PayPal received notable attention along the way - blogs are good also; blatantly prohibiting Google Checkout from being a viable payment option - illustrating a monopolizing intent, far surpassing the incidents which resulted in Bill Gates being investigated by the Senate Oversight comittee. This is the only way folks, the Courts would need to intercede, much as the Warren Court did in the 60’s to reform eBay/PayPal to discontinue their disparate and discriminatory policy against Sellers. The only other method would be a software program able to cancel all eBay auctions simultaneously and continuously that eBay would begin losing millions by the minute (much in the manner of Gorden Gekko), and be forced to the “table” to arbitrate. A Seller’s union could be formed, having positions and offices at every eBay facility ensuring certain Seller inaliable rights. Outside of this, there is no manner in effectively forcing eBay/PayPal’s hand.
Hi, I just wanted to tell you people about a site that will rip you off in minutes. I had joined a site called 4sale4now.com. I was selling items and I always send out my products. Anyways the woman named Nicky of the website. A customer called me and told her they didn't receive their item. She never contacted me except once. The next thing I knew was she was trying to get all the money back from orders I just received like one or two days ago. Now my paypal account is minus $1,000 it says. She even had the damn balls to call the cops on me. For orders I just received one and two days ago. That is a total crock. I am going to try my hardest to see if I can get her for calling the cops making a false report.
Ebay sucks now what?
I have created a FREE Auction site to get back to these thieves, check it out and let me know if you can offer any help. This site is for the People by the People and totally FREE.
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Ebay suck,
we sell item from turkey at ebay.com but German guy didint buy insurance we sent item but he complain to paypal as i havent item
paypal refuse him money oh la la..
he left us negative feedback what a wonderful world..
i contacted ebay you took my money for sold this item but paypal refuse my money, therefore payback my money ebay said we dont pay fvf back ugh?. What a trade .
EBAY IS SUCKS
EBAY is a b*tch. I've been shut down from two different users as a seller, since they shop/bid instead. I recently just bought a 'touch screen' mp4 for my little brothers as a gift. Well turns out that the 'touch screen' was not one after. I tried getting the dispute done through paypal but the case suddenly close on my stating that I provide fraud shipping information. I PAID 11 DOLLARS TO GET THAT GODDAMN THING SHIPPED BACK FOR MY REFUND AND I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE OWNER OTHER THAN HIS LAST EMAIL STATING HE HAS NOT RECEIVED THE ITEM...ITS BEEN MORE THAN A MONTH NOW!! I AM PISS AT EBAY AND STUPID PAYPAL! I TRIED LEAVING A BAD FEEDBACK ON THE OWNER PAGE BUT IT NOW STATES THAT THERE WAS NO TRANSCATION WITH THEM...WTF!!!!
Ebid lists in 18 countries--they offer free lifetime membership--and if you are a seller get the seller PLUS lifetime membership--this will not be around for long as it is an introductory price--you will never pay a fee for listing and never pay a final value fee ever again--also try google checkout--Paypal is another greedy ebay venture that is a HUGE rip off. I just signed up for Ebid.net as a lifetime Plus seller and find the site is easier to use than ebay with less restrictions. For an up front $49. you will never ever pay a fee again for your lifetime!!!! It will take every last one of us to reject ebay and start using Ebid. It's the best Ebay alternative out there--stop complaining and hit them where it hurts...Please do it now...I did.
Fire Donahoe!
http://www.firejohndonahoe.com
DirecTV VRO digital rights posting in EBay applied only to access cards. EBay closed auction for my owned DirecTV receiver without access card citing VRO request from DirecTV. No recourse with EBay who set my account one step from suspension. I took the opportunity to suspend EBay instead and closed all accounts.
Ebay has become a million pound gorilla in the room. Everything they were proud of initially is going out the window. They said buyers and sellers rate each other through feedback-I think it's safe to say that does not really apply anymore. The only feedback that must be positive is EBAYS about YOU. The Sellers on Ebay (who pay Ebay's salary) are loathed by Ebay. They don't trust sellers and they never really have it appears. They don't think they are making big enough profits right now so they are forcing EVERYONE to use both of the companies they own. I really wish somebody else would do what they do and keep in mind who they work for. Have you heard of Buyer Protection? Ever heard of Seller Protection? They put real businesses that people depended upon out of business and are now telling them to hit the pavement. Please God Help Us!
I agree ebay sucks!!!!! They keep shutting down my auctions and Paypal has a hold on my money now! Plus I am limited to what I list BullSh**! Paypal says it is for the safety of the seller and buyer until the seller gets there items! ya right that is my freakin money!!!!!! AARRGGGG! I need a new site! I might have found one $49 per year ebid.net say goodbye to ebay!!!!!!
I agree with all these comments ebay and paypal have turned into pirate websites raping and pillaging the whole world ever since march when they changed all their rules and regulations ebay members have no rites especially sellers!!! Something must be done we as human beings must stop using ebay they will crash and fall without us they have nothing! Craigslist.com is the next best thing no stores no rules NO PAYPAL B.S. its just plain old buyer beware contact the seller or buyer send payment get item if a seller is honest your transaction will be great but if they are crooks they wont be selling for long and just like going to a store you sometimes get a bad product that you can't return and fee's out the you know what for restocking and whatever! I am starting a magazine that will combat all the fraud in this world it's only a dream rite now but it's very attainable all I need are the funds and good people to make it work! The trademark is registered and the connections have been made all I mostly need now are funds! It's called NYYCCE(NICE)MAGAZINE yes it has girls and cars and such but this is only to attract all different types of people it is not a porn site its only on myspace rite now containing videos and pictures of people places and things! Keep in mind this magazine is the easiest way I could figure out how to aquire the funds to accomplish my goals starting with the entertainment industry one of the biggest money making and wasting industries today! I will move on to real estate,energy,and all other forms of industry after that HONESTY IS THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE!!!!! That is what I will be selling there is no need to buy and sell any other way! There will alwayes be crooks in this world but most crooks start out as being honest decent human beings thrown into a life of crime for one reason or another mostly because of other crooks my plan is to eliminate the crooks and thus making honesty the only way to get ahead! Check out my myspace page ignore all the pics and read the about section and by the way I will be changing the way to make donations from paypal to just send a check to my house! This is NOT A SCAM you can be rest assured all donations will be put towards my quest to make the world NYYCCE! Donations are not required your friendship and support is more important so please spread the word and add me as a friend or at least read the about section there are more good people in this world then bad and NOW is the time to stand up and show the crooks whose boss!!!! Thanks JDH EDITOR (NYYCCE MAGAZINE)
hello my name tony and i have fashion buisness and sold on ebay for first few months is was ok until i kept having my listing removed for also of reason one being trademark violation of my own company brands and trademarks , how ridiculous . this carried for weeks i contacted them i sent over 1000 email and got the same arrogant reply,Ebay states they can do what every they want as they dont want small buisness on the auction site they just want the major players, this means member like me and other ebays members are being suspended for no reason, ebay make up reason and provides no proof.
they lie and ruin people lives, there staff are thick arrogant abusive and threatening.
i am glad ebay is loosing money and axing 1600 jobs i hope another company take over ebay reign and the founder is left now with nowt.
this may sound harsh but when a company is allow to threaten and ruin people lives then something needs to be done.
ebay is not for genuine sellers but for all the con artist who rip members of and the the people who sell fake items
I just lost 900.00 in an ebay scam. I noticed one of your listings was exactly like my situation....Davidman posted it. If you read this please contact me. I would love to get this jerk that got our money! We both used western union to wire money to romania through what appeared to be ebay. (I know , sounds stupid but the email from ebay was believable.)
I Have stopped selling on ebay Please search member BOYDE2000 ebay advanced search. Click on my Name Boyde2000 818 . After you have read it come back and tell me what you read. Thanks > Den
i have been on ebay a number of years and i have been in the jewellery trade over 30 years i had a shop on ebay wich i have now closed for the following reason ebay have been limiting my account for months now
WHY
i do not sell fakes
i have 100 per cent feedback
so why
i rang them
they say theres a problem with account
ok what
oh we cant tell you
any one know the official complaints proceedure
EBAY HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSE TO RUN A BUISNESS IF YOU CONTINUE TO NOT GIVE THE SUPPORT TO GENIUNE SELLERS
YEP I AM NO LONGER SELLING ON EBAY AS OF TODAY ALSO. EBAY DOES NOT SEEM TO CARE ABOUT LONG TIMERS 9 YEARS IVE SOLD AND BOUGHT. NOW THEY ONLY WILL LET SELLERS AND BUYERS USE PAYPAL ONLY NO CHECKS OR MONEY ORDERS ANYMORE AND IF YOU DO YA WILL BE CANCELED. BY BY EBAY. ALSO PAYPAL NOW IS ASKING FOR YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER YEP WAY TO MUCH FOR ME TO JUST GIVE. EBAY DOES SUCK I FOUND ANOTHER GREAT SITE TO BUY AND SELL
I'm very upset with my husband for using eBay to buy his dream camera from USA which cost him $3300!!! He paid it via PayPal in June 2008, and up to now he still doesnt get his camera. Response from the seller, his bank and PayPal are suck! They keep asking him to wait, I think until he forget about it. But grrr...I'll never forget about that money. That's enough for a nice vacation
Anyone can help us to get the money back?
Check this out!!!
I was made aware of a new company, set to launch in November '08 that is breaking into the e-commerce world.
I saw the site, understand the concept, and I am completely syked about it. EBay is going to be a thing of the past.
The economy isn't so great. Nobody is buying. Sales are way down from last year. Who wants prices that are continually increasing?! As a buyer--not me, I want the best deal I can get, and I am usually shopping around online to find it, visiting different websites, comparing costs online and in-store. As a seller--I need to get some things sold, and the auction/bidding format, is just not doing it for me.
The solution? 4Sale4Now.com -- I have NEVER seen anything like this site before, because there IS nothing like it! They have taken a firm grasp on the issues that are plaguing buyers and sellers alike.
With this website, there is NO bidding, there are incredible deals to entice buyers to keep coming back, and sellers will be doing exactly what they are trying to do.... SELL!
I don’t know about you, but I have been looking for the next great thing, and I think I found it. They have a long line of sellers anxiously waiting to upload their products. From what I hear, they will allow back-end access to sellers to start uploading products to the site starting in October, once they kick-off in November; all will be ready to go.
Contact them at info@4sale4now.com
www.4sale4now.com
CAN SOME ONE HELP !!!
My Ebay store( min7man *1453)” A Walk in The Past “ was closed on August 4 2008. Ebay said it was because of to many negative feedback but my feedback is at 98.1%. I had over 2400 article in my store that cost me between $3 and $7 each to list . My store inventory was in the $200.000.00 mark +. I have invested way over $60.000.00 and 5 years of my time purchasing article for my Ebay store. I employ 2 full time and 1 part time employees . I work my Ebay from an office that I rent and turn it into a Ebay store. also included in my office is 3 running computer that I use to list and work my Ebay store from . I also had to rent a large storage falacitie for my Ebay store out of town because of the 10000’s of article that I have bought over the years to resale on Ebay and I also work Ebay from home witch is also turn into an office and Ebay storage . Ebay was my only income and know they shut me down . I had sales daily in my store and making from $1.500.00 to $4.000.00 a month . I also have grief with Paypal . I lost over $1000.00 last years because Paypal refunded buyers that never send me back my parcel and pay pal’s policy is that the other party have to supply proof of shipping with a tracking number or anything else . In 3 or 4 case of mine no tracking number was ever supply and Paypal still refunded them the full amount and they end up keeping the parcel too. I call Paypal and they told me to work it out with the other party that perhaps a mistake was done and they offer no help at all . I send Ebay a few emails in the last month but all I got was email from Ebay telling me that I deserved what has append to me . I was a power sellers and a silver member 2 months ago . I got a phone call from an Ebay reprehensive to congratulate me on being a New Ebay Silver member . Instead of Thanking her I told her how I lost over $1000.00 last years because of how Ebay and Paypal operates and after bitching at her for about 45 minutes she thanked me and told me that she would direct my complaints to the right departments. I guess she did just that and took it upon her self the Shut me down . Telling some one there fault should not be just cause to close my store down . I have send the above email to about 20 Ebay reprehensive in the hope that some one may help me but it’s been over 3 days and Not one reply yet . There more people complaining about Ebay then me . So why don’t the Government get involve and close them down for a few months to see how they would feel .
Can some one help ?
What can I do ?
I have bills coming in everyday and 3 rent to pay .
my name is Michel @ 613-698-9467 or michelminiman@yahoo
Dear Ebay representative.
On Monday August 4 2008 my Ebay store Min7man “A walk In The past” was shut down perhaps by accident
Over the past two years min7man “A Walk In The Past” has generated an annual revenue of $15.000.00 and over and has served over 1400 clients. From the early days of operation “A Walk In The Past” has grown from 5 sales per month to sometimes 75 per month with expansions planned for the fall and winter of this year, many clients have been very satisfied with my service and some of their feedback is included below:1-shipped at a reasonable rate and item was packed very well exactly as advertised.
2-exact item , very good packing, very fast shipping, recommended seller
3-Well packaged and received in due time. Interesting item for collector.
4-Everything wonderful! fast shipping! Well packed Great seller! Thanks!! A+++
5-Product just as described Fast shipping Highly Recommended E-Bayer Thank you A++
6-fast and professional
7-Item as described...shipped promptly,.promptly credited accidental overpayment
8-Excellent seller. Wonderful items, well packaged. Thanks so much! 10/10
9-excellent condition of item, good price ,fair shipping cost
10-OUTSTANDING SELLER. Pleasant to work with. Beautiful plate, carefully packaged.
I believe there may have been an error or some technological glitch that may have caused “A Walk In The Past” to be shut down and any exploration of the matter would be greatly appreciated.
Please email me at miniman777@hotmail.com or phone me at 613-721-2700 or 613-698-9467.
Thank you for your time and consideration
Sincerely, Michel Berniquez:
Michel Berniquez
President and Owner of “A Walk In The Past”
13 Hobart crescent
Ottawa Ontario,
K2h5s3
613-721-2700
613-698-9467
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtY3xXfweME
ebay stole my money!!!! i bought a pc for $2000 and i never got my item! did everything possible but never got a response from either the seller or ebay!!!!
seller (cindys_basement).
Feb.28,2008 Payment To C&M Collectibles Completed -$41.99 USD
I purchased the item, which are electronic digital calipers.
His auction (Mark A.) represented the item as fully working and in very good condition.
When I received them and tried to use them, I would often get an "error" message on the LCD display. Initially, if I reset the unit, the error message would go away. A nusance, but I could still make some measurments with them. The problem got worse and was so bad, that I could not reset them. The "error" was displayed constantly.
I contacted Mark Albino the seller, and described the problem. On my first call attempt, I got his son, who was fairly rude to me on the phone. I became worried that I might be dealing with slippery people. When I did get in contact with Mark Albino, he told me to mail them back (he refused to pay for return shipping) and if they were not working as described, he would refund my money.
I sent them back. Nothing happened for weeks. I contacted him again to see what the status of the return was. He then told me that he sent them out to a shop to have them checked out. He told me that they were fine when he tried to use them. I am an electronics engineer... I know when something is not working, so I knew now that he was playing with me and that I was now in a nightmare situation.
Upon finding out that the units were in a repair shop, I imediately asked Mark for the contact information of the shop. I figured that if they were in the shop, I wanted to make sure they would get fixed properly. He never forwarded the info to me. I asked him for the contact info a number of times and he refused to give it to me. I believe he never sent the calipers out. He just let them sit there for awhile and then told me that this "shop" also found them to be working.
He then wanted to return the calipers to me, and wanted me to pay the shipping again. I don't want the calipers. They don't work as he represented them in his auction. I want my money back. So at this time, he has both my money and the mis-represented calipers.
The crazy thing is, I can't figure out how such a person could get such a high favorable rating with so many transactions.
Thanks for reading,
roy
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY ON THIS EARTH SOMEONE ELSE AS GLITTERING AND AS GOOD AS EBAY DOES EMERGE AS A FORCE IN THE AUCTION BUSINESS! COULD IT BE BECAUSE EBAY HAS INSTANTLY PURCHASED ANY POSSIBLE COMPETITOR! THEY WANT TO BE LIKE AMAZON, AND SELLERS WANT TO BE ABLE TO RETURN TO AUCTIONS AGAIN! Something has got to give and not sell out to ebay and become the next way for all of us to sell!
Ebay is my life and I have 2 children to feed and huge bills. Amongst the terrible economy and sagging sales, users are not coming back and there is little or no growth right now. So as sellers are eliminated as they become amazonbay Buyers are free to shop around and see whats out there! I have never in my life of witnessing auction is there an opportunity to start a better type of ebay. Where are the investors and why is this not happening now!
This might not be considered newsworthy by a lot of people, but I’d love for someone to look into Ebay’s policy of arbitrarily and capriciously limiting seller accounts for no apparent reason. I know that this sounds like a disgruntled Ebay user (and to a certain extent that’s correct!), but the quick story is that I started selling my Camel Zippo lighter collection on Ebay, have paid my bills, and have garnered 100% positive feedback, but am now prohibited from selling Zippos for an indeterminate length of time. I’ve got email plenty of correspondence back and forth, and one thing that I can tell you from that correspondence is that Ebay has assured me repeatedly that the restrictions on my account aren’t any kind of disciplinary action, or because of anything I did or didn’t do. It’s just an “institutional initiative” that they’ve initiated. One thing that became apparent though is that when I question them, they retaliate by making the length of the restriction longer. It started out as a 30 day restriction. It’s been longer than 30 days since that first restriction was instituted, and their latest response to my inquiry is “We suggest contacting us after 90 days to review your account again; during this time, you will have the opportunity to further build a positive selling history on eBay and to comply with all policies.” (again……I have 100% positive feedback)
I know that this isn’t earth-shaking news and that most people might not be interested in this, but if this is happening to me, it’s got to be happening to a lot of other people, and Ebay has made it abundantly clear that;
a) They don’t have to explain their reasons to me
b) I have no recourse
c) They’re going to do whatever they want to do
If I had violated a rule or policy, I could understand a restriction, but to the best of my knowledge, I haven’t. Although my last letter to them wasn’t particularly polite, (it wasn’t profane; just not particularly polite anymore) prior to that I had taken pains to try to explain things clearly and concisely, and asked very simple questions. Their reply is always very vague, general, and absolutely no help. The only thing that changes is the length of the restriction, and Surprise Surprise!!! No one will step up and explain or take responsibility for that either.
I’d love to hear from other readers that have had problems with Ebay. I’m sure that nothing that I or anyone else writes will change the way they treat their customers, but I’d still enjoy being able to forward more examples of customer abuse and see if they’ll address them. If you’ve got other blogs on this subject, let me know and I’ll include their links, and if you’ve got a story, leave a note and I’ll get back to you.
dme56h
I quit PayPal as a buyer today (some of you may not be disappointed as (former?) sellers) over their demand that buyers link a bank account or debit card, after a cumulative total threshold of credit card payments is reached. This will hurt sellers, too, especially if eBay goes to a policy of "PayPal only" for sellers, as I've heard they're planning to do or considering now. I hope sellers will object for yourselves and your buyers. I believe a lot of buyers like me will not be willing to let anyone have a link to our bank accounts, directly or through a debit card, so eBay is likely hurting itself more than any added revenue from others will help it.
I'm really tired of Ebay's fees and of the way they treat their sellers. I'm sure there are plenty of Ebay sellers that have been with the from the start that regret supporting this company. I still sell on Ebay but I also sell on offertime http://www.offertime.net of course I get more traffic on Ebay but I'm paying an arm and a leg for it. Not only that but It's also stressing me out. Ebay's no longer the company it used to be.
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"We are just a platform" Ebay seem to becoming more of a tool for crooks, helped by ebay, and I hope that this will turn around and bite them. At the moment there is a person selling a particularly rare item - that is if it were original. The person has been banned by all major auction houses from entering their premises as items or parts of items used to disappear from viewings when this person was there. This person has been jailed for theft and receiving stolen items, and has now moved up to forgery.
So try explain this to ebay so that they can warn potential buyers (seller has set bidders ID to private). So someone will in good faith buy this item and there is no way to warn them. Ebay I think makes themselves complicit in this crime, as they do with being the major platform for moving stolen property!
All auction houses in the real world are expected to exercise a certain degree of care, except it seems ebay
Justin | August 17, 2008 9:04 AM
Does anyone have a name/address for service of process for ebay? We need to depose them to get records for a seller of stolen goods. Please advise! Thanks!
I sell on e bay and used to be a powerseller someone bought 11 books off me and wanted them posted overseas I told him I could not do this as some of them were too heavy so he just left me 11 negs and when I contacted e bay they said they could not remove it as it didnt break their feedback policy but they removed the ones I left for him.I am sick of e bay and the shit way it treats both buyers and sellers i am going to sue them and give these twats some bad publicity
assholes are always complaining about everything that does not suit them.
in this case it's ebay. awwww, what's wrong? can't scam buyers anymore?
hell they complain about everything from feedback to how the 'my ebay' works.
all they want to do is fuck over the buyers.. with their lame protests, boycotts and screaming, whining and bitching because they can't have their way.
they're too retarded to be sellers. maybe they should stay in bed.
save the rest of us alot of time.
Hi
I need to purchase an item on ebay but i have a message from the seller telling me he doesnt sell overseas. Is there a way around this ?
Please help
ANOTHER STORY FOR EVERYBODY ON WHY EBAY SUCKS:
I joined ebay in 1999. You could say that ebay was in its beginnings.(Remember when they used to show you how many auctions were going at the present time?)Anyway, I had no problems for years. Well except for the occasional deadbeat bidder. Now all of a sudden there are all these new rules, and it's kicking the little guy out!!! I don't want to use paypal. Just yet another fee I have to pay. Not to mention the customer service is awful. I swear they hire monkeys just to hit keys on a keyboard to give canned responses. I WILL NO LONGER USE EBAY TO SELL AGAIN!!!!! In fact because of ebays stupidity.....I have discovered many other ways to sell my old stuff. Craiglist for one.........and a few other smaller sites I am tinkering with at the present moment. Ebay has got to be reading all these comments. The funny thing is they don't care for some reason. As long as the few at the top are still making their millions I guess it doesn't matter. I wouldn't purchase stock in this company if you paid me. Goodbye ebay. It's been real. Now I can use my 6 other accounts to give every seller I possibly can a negative score. I am gonna do my best to fuck up every seller on here. You all should do the same. Now that I cant get a negative in return,.,,,,,this is gonna be a fieldday for ME AND THE SCAMMERS!!!!! HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA....I HOPE U DONT SELL ON EBAY!!!!!
Here at maddoodads.net we were a power seller on Ebay got caught up in everything and spent way to much on listing fees (about $6000 a month). since then we've opened our own web site maddoodads.net (about $2000) we've opened an amazon store ( $60. a/month) And opened a store a Ebid.net where listings always free ($50 for lifetime membership and worldwide store) I feel I'm already saving money by not paying excessive Ebay fees
Hope that helps.
maddoodads.net
Last Christmas, I bought what I thought was a 1910 dime converted into a tie tack. That is how it was described.
I ordered this as a Christmas gift to my husband. When it came in the mail, I looked at it, and thought how nice it was, and gave a feedback that said the seller was excellent and I liked the tie tack.
Christmas Day, my hubby opened the gift and I could tell he was a little crestfallen. I said what's wrong, and he said, this is plastic. He said I know this because I have collected coins for years and because I used a router on a 1910 dime myself one time and was going to turn it into a tie tack.
I contacted the seller and long story short, they simply WOULD NOT ADMIT that the dime was plastic. I paid $25.00 plus shipping for this tie tack.
I contacted ebay and the seller through the proper channels, several times, but they never would hear me out and refund my money.
So now we're stuck with a tacky plastic tie tack and I'm out about $30.00. I didn't know it was plastic until my husband told me and showed me why he knew it was plastic.
I've thought of selling my art on ebay, but after reading what you guys have to say, I think I'll try Craig's List or ETSY.
Thanks for hearing me out.
Beth Davis
eBay has got have the worst customer service on the net. There's no doubt that their email service system is not based in the U.S. because the people answering the email never answer what your asking. They simply don't understand English.
I hear ya.
Same thing happened to me, I have been on ebay for a number of years selling different merchandise. I sold a few cards for cheap, like $1 each, I listed then as Reprints in the title and in the description I lited it so I was VERY clear it was a reprint and I was not deceiving anyone. The terms originally stated that you HAVE to let the customer know it is not an authentic card, which I have done so I followed the terms clearly.
(Cards were Bobby orr and Gretzky and a couple of each, no reserve price and a starting bid of $0.99) Anyhow, they removed all my cards and suspended my account, I replied to them asking why and they said "You cannot sell a Replica on eBay". I snapped because it seems like they changed the rules as they go along, and alot of my long term customers are e-mailing me asking what's happenening, so I reply to the explaining the situation and they all agree with me how much I got screwed over, plus the response is super slow. Weird how they sell these cards at ALL card dealers and ALL hobby shops though but eBay has a problem with it, I asked them to answer me that one and they came up with nothing.
Vanessa, I read your post and it looks like they did the same thing to you, and I read a few more posts on here and it looks like I am not the only one!
ebay needs to pull their heads out of their asses and grow up, they are a super rich company and I guess they fell they don't need good customer service anymore.
So terrible!
I just spent the last hour reading so many intertesting comments on why Ebay really foes suck. I have been with Ebay since 1998 Oct and with very little problems. I did one time have 23 auctions shut down by Ebay because I had the wording "Cash at your own risk" for payment option. I had been using this statement for 8 years...then some yahoo decides to shut them all down because was not allowed as payment. Wow..what a pain in the azz it was redoing every auction again to suit the Draconian Ebay dictators. Recently though..I have found Ebay to be a pain with all there new so called features..which are all geared towards the powers seller and not the 100,000's non power seller's. There just another disgusting self serving company looking to satisfy the shareholders and not the sellers. And how about this....I shouldn't tell this..but you can seriously rip off a seller via PAYPAL refunds. My sister sold an item on Ebay to a new bidder for $122us...there was no tracking info, or registered mail..since it would be to much for most biddder's to pay. She sent the item...and they did get it, but they complained to PAYPAL that they never got the item and they just yanked the money out of my sister account and told here that she needed to provide "PROOF OF DELIVERY"..ya what absolute BS..who in there right mind is going register every item they send..yu would never sell anything if shipping was always double then what every other seller's has. This bidder had..get this..no feedbacks yet and my sister had about 600 then and no negatives..this newby not only got a free item, but even left her her first negative and so far..they have never mad e abid since. So..if yur item was not registered..say you never got it and have a fre item on Rip off Ebay/PAYPAL...
All I have to say is "CYA FEEBAY!". Stupid assholes suspended my account for a stupid reason and are treating me like a criminal. Trust and safety takes forever to get back to you and you can't talk to anyone on the phone. I feel like I'm being treated like a child by them...punishing me by suspending my account. So I built my own website. I know it won't get nearly as much traffic as eBay, but no listing fees and no final value fees! I'm also thinking of just taking Google Checkout and not PayPal since PayPal and FeeBay are the same company. They can leave my account suspended for all I care! I don't want to give them another freakin' dime.
This is what is happening on the Australian eBay Round Table Forum.
I will just paste the entire thread so judge for your self the level of anger.
This is not a one-off it is happening on a regular basis daily
PLEASE FUCKING CLOSE MY ACCOUNT
pleasephuckingclosemyaccount (10 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:12 EST
Posted 19:52, deleted 20:06
Posted again 20:06 deleted 20:11
This might take a while...
FUCKEM
25 replies Date posted Reply #
debra9275 (1293 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:13 EST 1 of 25
good luck!
hope they hear you this time.
alicespringsnt (192 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:13 EST 2 of 25
Don't hold back now.... say what you really mean.
frangipanius (232 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:14 EST 3 of 25
OP .. to get ebay to close your account:
* you have to die
* your family and friends have to make bids using your corpse's ID. Then they don't pay. Then, eventually, ebay might make you NARU after another decade or so. Maybe.
gaw318 (350 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:15 EST 4 of 25
LOL
oziken (955 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:15 EST 5 of 25
This is a KITCHEN NIGHTMARE!!!
australian-jewellery-sales (9672 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:16 EST 6 of 25
Make a new id Gordon Ramsay lol
oziken (955 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:17 EST 7 of 25
hells kitchen!!!
australian-jewellery-sales (9672 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:17 EST 8 of 25
I wonder if Mr Ramsay would bid for and eat food won on ebay?
jugglerpom (71 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:18 EST 9 of 25
you have to die
* your family and friends have to make bids using your corpse's ID. Then they don't pay. Then, eventually, ebay might make you NARU after another decade or so. Maybe.
I am thinking of putting a clause in my listing 'Dead people are not allowed to bid' I can see this as the only way to close an account we need to keep the 5 million users
australian-jewellery-sales (9672 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:19 EST 10 of 25
If you die you go to hells Kitchen
tonysmit (2017 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:21 EST 11 of 25
That should work!
BTW - if you die they only cancel your account if you tell them
australian-jewellery-sales (9672 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:21 EST 12 of 25
Is a suspended account a closed account?
australian-jewellery-sales (9672 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:22 EST 13 of 25
LOL tonysmit
I need to go and change my will.
"please close my account when I'm dead"
It's like the Mafia
freshwaterpearls (556 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:22 EST 14 of 25
Probably not!
pleasephuckingclosemyaccount (10 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:22 EST 15 of 25
Like my new account name
allcheapparts08 (3 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:22 EST 16 of 25
just spam links to the other, better, site that is FREE to list on
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usefull-items (358 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:22 EST 17 of 25
soon to be 4,999,999
foxinsox61 (317 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:23 EST 18 of 25
ROFL myself silly!!-yep,small things amuse small minds!!
Sometimes life just gets in the way
dvamp4u (105 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:23 EST 19 of 25
"Welcome to the hotel California"
australian-jewellery-sales (9672 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:23 EST 20 of 25
pleasephuckingclosemyaccount lol
australian-jewellery-sales (9672 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:24 EST 21 of 25
They will probably just change you user id before the close your account.
usefull-items (358 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:25 EST 22 of 25
the OP has taken Step00001
brain68cat (177 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:27 EST 23 of 25
Ha - I'm watching Ramsey now would you like everyone to report you?
jugglerpom (71 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:27 EST 24 of 25
Is a suspended account a closed account?
australian-jewellery-sales thinking about it you are right oh no there is no way out
usefull-items (358 ) View Listings | Report 03-06-08 20:27 EST 25 of 25
foxinsox61,
While smaller minds look on ???
I listed an item and first off ebay requires me to accept paypal as a form of payment for some bullshit reason. Then the auction ends for over $1800 and I get a non-paying bidder. I file a unpaid item report and go to leave negative feedback. Only to find that ebay does not allow sellers to leave negative feedback. This is unfair to the seller. To all sellers or anyone thinking about selling, Don't Ebay is a bunch of pricks.
They suspended my account because I had mistakenly listed an e-mail guide in the wrong category. I wish they would put me in a boxing ring with any of those pansy Motherf**ckers and then let's see who gets supsended!
I was ebay power seller. I sold over $7 Mil and paid $1/2 mil in ebay fee between 2001-2008. Early 2008 my account was suspended for low customer satisfaction ratio. I maintained 98.2% for all 7 years. I opened a few new accounts and all of them have 100% positive feedback but got suspended because I had a suspended ebay account. I have no other problem with ebay.
If you are a businessman and one of your customer buy $75,000/year (merchandise/service) from you, would you treat your customer this way?? I now doing wholesale toys, testing other online auction site, and selling through web sites. I am able to survive. Ebay is not a businessman.
You can buy my toys at www.pcpartusa.com
Thanks you for your time.
A NEW Alternative to eBay!
Ebay sucks! In fact, there are thousands of sites that offer free auctions. Maybe we can sell on these sites instead on Ebay sucks! Here is one site call digi-go that collect many free auctions sites, i sold my car via that site. If you want to sell something not through ebay sucks, just take a look at this page : http://www.digi-go.biz/dml.html
EBays feedback only benefits sellers. If an honest buyers submits bad feedback for a corrupt seller. All the seller has to do is submit bad feedback to the buyer. This eventually leads to a Mutual Feedback Withrawal. So end the end, sellers win. EBay buyers lose!
I would like to know of any other trusted sites, as much as they can be trusted, besides ebay to do business with! Ebay certainly has seemed to take over the buying and selling internet world. I had a lot of fun on ebay because their site is easy to read and fun to bid. When I sold, it was a different story. My shipping was reasonable, my shipping was very fast, my reputation was 100 percent. My wife had an ebay account and didn't do so well with it in the past, now I cannot use ebay. Is this fair? I don't think so.
I am starting to hate ebay!! I bought an item two months ago and paid for it instantly. I never received it...wrote seller a negative feedback...she admitted through email about 5 times that she had not sent it because she didnt get my address...YEAH RIGHT! I sent the information to her several times...finally I just left back feedback. So she refunds my money and then files an unpaid item dispute with ebay...WTF...I sent them the confirmation info from paypal and everything...but no...Now i have an unpaid item strike and i did nothing wrong. You cannot reach a live person to speak to for the life of you either!! And then the seller leaves feedback threatening me...does ebay do anything..No!! Customer service is horrible!!
Why after over 3 years is this still happening to people?
If ebay truely cared about their sellers they would have sorted this problem out years ago.
Innocent until proven guilty. ?
I have just had my account blocked as i am selling designer clothes but i buy my clothes direct from the head office of the respected brands and i am a licensed seller of these goods of which i have already provided ebay with to prove my authenticity.
So why do they block my account, its about time the big cheese of ebay had a look at this web site and pished it through to their customer service department!
anyone know how we can get ebay to read this or actually get some kind of legal system down on them for false closure, im sure their is someone out their who would love to take this up! maybe a petition at the end of this page to say how unhappy, then again the amount of posts on here sums it up really.
So why doesn't someone let us know exactly who picolabetty is? Tell us her name and city and state! Don't let her hide behind her ebay id.
http://www.Ziot.com
EBAY SUCKS
WHY?
EXCESSIVE FEES
HORRIBLE CUSTOMER SERVICE (ARGUING WITH 5 YEAR OLD)
CHARGED MY ACCOUNT AND TOOK MY MONEY UNJUSTLY
MY 6 YEAR OLD ACCOUNT WAS SUSPENDED INDEFINITELY DUE TO FEEDBACK THEY RECEIVED ABOUT ME FROM CUSTOMERS WHO DIDN'T EVEN COMPLETE A TRANSACTION WITH ME.
THAT'S RIGHT
EBAYS A**HOLE CUSTOMER SERVICE SUSPENDED MY ACCOUNT AND RESPONDED WITH THE SAME RESPONSE WHICH DIDN'T PROVIDE A CLEAR AND ACCURATE RESPONSE AS TO WHY I WAS SUSPENDED.
OH YEAH...THEY SURE AS HELL MADE SURE TO CHARGE MY ACCOUNT AND TAKE MY MONEY EVEN THOUGH I RECEIVED A HORRIBLE SERVICE AND DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO DEFEND MYSELF.
BOTTOM LINE:
EBAY SEEMS APPEALING AT FIRST
BUT SOONER OR LATER THEY WILL GET YOU
AMAZON OR CRAIGLIST IS BETTER
EBAY SUCKS
WHY?
EXCESSIVE FEES
HORRIBLE CUSTOMER SERVICE (ARGUING WITH 5 YEAR OLD)
CHARGED MY ACCOUNT AND TOOK MY MONEY UNJUSTLY
MY 6 YEAR OLD ACCOUNT WAS SUSPENDED INDEFINITELY DUE TO FEEDBACK THEY RECEIVED ABOUT ME FROM CUSTOMERS WHO DIDN'T EVEN COMPLETE A TRANSACTION WITH ME.
THAT'S RIGHT
EBAYS ASSHOLE CUSTOMER SERVICE SUSPENDED MY ACCOUNT AND RESPONDED WITH THE SAME RESPONSE WHICH DIDN'T PROVIDE A CLEAR AND ACCURATE RESPONSE AS TO WHY I WAS SUSPENDED.
OH YEAH...THEY SURE AS HELL MADE SURE TO CHARGE MY ACCOUNT AND TAKE MY MONEY EVEN THOUGH I RECEIVED A HORRIBLE SERVICE AND DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO DEFEND MYSELF.
BOTTOM LINE:
EBAY SEEMS APPEALING AT FIRST
BUT SOONER OR LATER THEY WILL GET YOU
AMAZON OR CRAIGLIST IS BETTER
I've found free up to date info to get back on ebay at suspended-from-ebay.com There are a couple sites that offer the auction again info. I too lost my home business and was in distress, I opened a new account with new info and got zapped again! I ran into the suspended-from-ebay.com and it worked, I'm back on.
If you've been burned by the "Big Auction" site - I'd love to hear from you!
Please email mrauctionexpert@yahoo.com
Wilks
The sellers of www.onlineauction.com are organizing a huge rummage sale to begin May 1, 2008. At last count, there were over 100 members committed to listing a minimum of 10 items each, all classic auctions starting at .99 WITH NO RESERVE. There will be hundreds of items literally at a steal, including name brands, new, used, lots, etc. Mark your calendars, come join the fun!! This is for a LIMITED TIME ONLY!!!
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it’s the only thing that ever has." - Margaret Mead
If you dislike ebay, don't get mad... Get even. Check out www.AskMeWhyEbaySucks.com
I have had a really bad experience with ebay of late. I'm trying to get my ebay business off the ground, selling pcs.
I have had to set up three different acounts. First off they suspended my account because it was hacked, they canceled all my listings, but never gave me any money back from the listing fees. Second account i set up the suspended it because i listed alot of PCs and they thought this one had been hacked aswell and suspended that account. I'm now on my third account, this is really annoying because i have managed to sell PCs on these previous accounts before the where suspended. As you can imagine trying to sell something as expensive as a PC on ebay with 0 feedback it hard, so when i do actually sell one its great because it means ill be getting a feedback from it, but when ebay suspend my accounts i lose that feedback and have to start all over again!
My advice to ANYONE wishing to start selling on ebay is the following: When registering a card for payments ensure it is one of those VOUCHER type things which you can buy for amounts between $10 and $20.
Why do I suggest this? Read on. Ebay WILL and CAN suspend your account at ANY time. For example, for the last 14 months I have been selling LEGITIMATE CDs and DVDs, with a 100% positive feedback and over 150 transactions.
I was suspended for selling a COUNTERFEIT DVD. How did they come to this conclusion? Especially considering I have not even sent one of the items out !
I am either the victim of a vindictive buyer who has 'reported' me for an item they have never actually received, or ebay simply PICK on individual sellers for the hell of it.
Now, the reason I STRONGLY suggest EVERYONE who considers selling on ebay gets themselves a low value voucher when registering is the following. When your account is frozen ebay IMMEDIATELY sends ALL buyers a message informing they do NOT pay you for the goods they have won. The buyers then either cancel their checks or claim through Paypal. At the SAME TIME ebay will charge you for ALL the sales you have made, meaning that as you are refunding all the buyers ebay are getting their hands on YOUR money, as you will have made ZIP from the selling!
Had you registered with your credit card ebay would simply dip into your funds and take the FULL AMOUNT from it. However, as you have registered your low value voucher ebay are likely to get NOTHING, because you only have $10 on the account, and even if your fees are $11 they cannot take a CENT !
EBAY- MIND HOW YOU GO !
I bought an item on ebay. Never got the item. Requested the sellers contact info and tried calling them. Bad phone number. Contacted Ebay they never contacted back and have not made the seller update his contact info. the seller is htecomm. Im awaiting my refund. Why do I have to wait they can take my money instantly. If the seller can't prove that he shipped the item or doesn't bother to respond in 24 hours I should get my money back right away. I hate ebay so bad.
More horror stories!
Sara - I looked up Picolabetty - What a crook! Just a preview of coming attractions on eBay. I hear that some sellers have already found a way to leave dozens of negatives for their competition! Can't say I didn't see that coming.
There was a similar nasty person stalking me on eBay. I begged eBay to let me change ID's without linking me to my old ID. They wouldn't. So I set up another ID and started all over, losing over 1000 feedbacks. That person is still on eBay with a feedback score of 51 and 5 negatives. They suspended me indefinitely because of my "linked" accounts. I had 1 retaliatory negative out of 1,500 feedbacks. They suspended her for 3 days because she had a linked account - but then, she is a buyer and I sold "yard sale" stuff.
Another bidder was harassing me with filthy e-mails. I sent a complaint to eBay and blocked the bidder. eBay gave my personal contact information to the bidder AFTER I had blocked him. When I complained, they pretended it didn't happen.
Ebay is a crook! They are the worst sort of crooks allowed to steal! Ebay is consider white collar crimnals-----which makes it legal to steal!
They have all these rules in place to operate as criminals and they steal from everybody who uses their services.
INCLUDING ALL OF US WHO USES PAYPAL!!!
They allow scam artists such as picolabetty to operate freely on ebay. Picolabetty is the worst sort of criminal. She steals from sellers and extorts money from them. Picolabetty was suspended on March 11, 2008 for two days and she is back today March 13, 2008 buying again.
Must people can never come back to ebay or if they do it is in a month or longer...ebay never responds that fast. So who is picolabetty related too in the company??
WOW----- to be rein-stated in two days....who does she know? What is her connection??
She has received 11 negatives in a one week period and eaby allows this sort of behavior. She extorts feedback from individuals and if you give her a strike for being a non paying bidder she lies and says the person is angry because pay pal gave money back. She has received three strikes that I am aware of. If you do not give picolabetty money off of an item then she returns the item for a full refund and leaves you a negative. She has asked for as much as $200.00 off a $599.99 dollar Raccoon coat. item and there is nothing wrong with it.
I think all of them are in bed together. So since we do not have choices and ebay is the only action in town make your money and try to find another way to make money.
Ebay will kill you...they have a deaf ear and do not care about anything, anybody------But the money and fees they can charge you.
They have all these rules to protect criminals....I see why the criminals have come out of the wood work to steal on ebay...because before ebay decide to do anything they have gotten their money and move on to the next victim. What idiots!
Today I am letting this go.....I have lost countless hours of sleep dealing with ebay. To be exact one week! So I am going to do something I have peaches about....LIG....LET IT GO!
THANKS FOR HEARING ME OUT!! SARA
a_star_car ........ I believe eBay will shut down any and every "mom and pop" seller for any reason they can come up with.
Although they deny padding their auction count so that it will appear that the boycott has had no effect, for one example look at this seller's listings.....
collect2000 has 88,894 auctions listed as of this morning!
I HATE EBAY. They just shut me down, for too much negative feedback...
______________________________________________________
Dear a_star_car (astarcar@googlemail.com),
We regret to inform you that your eBay account has been restricted from buying or selling on eBay because it is in breach of our Seller Non-Performance policy.
Our records indicate that buyer satisfaction with your account has worsened significantly over the past 90 days. To help keep eBay a safe place to trade we have ended your open listings and temporarily restricted your account.
Your account will remain restricted for the next thirty days to allow you to settle these issues. During this time you won't be able to make any new purchases or list any items. We've ended any open listings.
___________________________________________________
heres my reply to them:
Firstly I would like to mention that the last negative feedback I received was from a chap who bought a starter motor - redfastlad - item: 270206516750, who emailed and said that the item was not as described, which in fact it was - I had duplicated the description from the original manufacturers website, he the emailed back 5 minutes later saying actually it was broken that he'd had an electrician test it and it needed repair (all in 5 minutes - wow), I know this to be untrue as the item was fully tested before being sent, and it could not have been damaged in the post as it was well wrapped. I explained my listing, asked him to read it again - and my additional info, and said I could only refund the price he paid if he returned the item, I could not refund the postage. I had no further communication from him until I noticed he had left bad feedback. I know that if the chap had tried it as a replacement for his own broken article, it would have worked. I do still have the original correspondance if you wish to investigate this.
The next negative feedback on the list was someone who didnt even contact me prior to leaving bad feedback, for an item - ford sunroof seal, which was once again as described: batmat7 item 270205972260 I know it was a genuine article because I removed it from my car myself! - Unfortunately I have no correspondance for you to investigate in this case.
I believe that eBay is rather unfair, and I feel like making a complaint to an ombudsman, it seems you are just money grabbing - at least I had no open listings as I am fed up of not being refunded for listings you choose to close. The one that really got my goose was a car I had for sale that you ended as a 'ghost' auction, I never received a refund my £8 listing fee. If I add it up you have cancelled around £20 worth of listings for no real reason other than forcing me to pay to relist them.
You really need to revise your policies regarding the way you treat customers, I'm an honest chap, who if I have made a mistake will admit it, but I hate being ripped off by people who think they'll swap their faulty goods for what I send them and then get frustrated when I refuse to refund them. I know you just want the money, but a lot of people are losing faith in eBay and moving on to better places such as eBid.
I would appreciate someone from your company to take time out of pressing buttons, to actually consider my email and respond to me in person.
_________________________________________________
MAYBE THEY WILL RESPOND.. hahahahahahaha
This is what eBay has done to my family…
Both my daughter and I sold on eBay for years. My bank account was linked to her eBay account so that I could pay her seller fees through my bank account. EBay had no problem with collecting those fees over the years and we made no secret of the fact that the accounts were linked. I estimate we paid eBay more than $30,000.00 in fees over the years.
But we were “yard sale” sellers. We never engaged in shill bidding and carefully adhered to all of eBay’s rules - after all, they were our major source of income and we weren’t about to jeopardize that. Twice I bid on something I didn’t want my daughter to sell and in both cases I won the auction and paid the eBay fees.
My daughter’s husband is suffering from MRSA, the “super bacteria”. He has been unemployed for two years, and has had surgery 4 times. He is seriously ill and definitely may not survive. His unemployment insurance ran out months ago. He has applied for Permanent Disability, but it takes about a year to get approved for that. In the meantime, their only income was eBay.
Not long ago my daughter fell and suffered a severely fractured shoulder and arm. With the use of only one hand and in extreme pain, she was late with shipping a few items. As soon as she was able, she explained the problem to the buyers, with one-finger typing, and said she would ship the items as soon as she could. She even gave one buyer a full refund and told him that he could pay her again as soon as he received his purchase, which she had managed to ship. She asked the other buyers if they could wait or if they wanted a refund. I sent refunds to two of them myself. However, a couple of the buyers did not believe her and filed complaints. She was suspended from eBay for “failure to perform”.
Then, simply because my account was “linked to a previously suspended account” I was also suspended. I believe that eBay was searching for reasons to suspend as many “yard sale” sellers as they could. We had combined feedback totals of more than 2600 with one negative, from a non-paying bidder. We had never broken eBay rules. I tried to explain our situation to eBay. They would not hear.
Ebay gave me instructions on how to release the suspension - I was to e-mail them through the “previously suspended” account at which point I would be able to close the “linked” account and the other account would be reinstated.
However, they blocked e-mail access to eBay from the suspended account. The only communication I received from them was that my account would remain suspended until I e-mailed them through the e-mail address which they had blocked. There was nothing I could do. I would receive only a reiteration of their nonsensical instructions, the latest one including the phrase, “we may not respond to further e-mails”. I faxed them the formal “Request for Reinstatement”, which must be signed “under penalty of perjury” and include a copy of a “Government issued ID”. The form states that they will respond “within 7 to 10 days”. I faxed it on February 11th. They have ignored it.
I have given up and will remain suspended.
At this point I would not sell on eBay even if I were not suspended - that will be a dangerous undertaking for any seller.
Both my daughter and I were devastated by eBay’s refusal to reinstate at least one account. Not only did my daughter lose her only source of income, we lost one of the few pleasures we find in our struggle to survive. We would no longer be going to the weekend estate sales on our “treasure hunts”. There would be no reason to go. It seemed that not only our livelihood, but a major part of our lives had come to an end. When I was notified of my suspension I was in the process of organizing the hundreds of “yard sale” items I intended to list on eBay. I had emptied the closet and stacked the things on the floor to sort them. They are still on the floor - I have not been able to bring myself to deal with them.
I am 72 years old and live on Social Security plus what I could make on eBay, often by selling my own “treasures”, sometimes at a huge loss. Almost all of my eBay earnings went to assist my daughter, her husband and my two grandchildren. I have placed a reverse mortgage on my house so that I can keep my daughter and her family in food and shelter until a better place to sell takes the place of eBay.
Thank you eBay - from a long-time loyal ex-customer. My loyalty has gone elsewhere! You are definitely no better than my family or I simply because you have your health, your employment and your money - you are only luckier! Enjoy it while you have it - I have a suspicion (and the hope) that it won’t last long.
A highly recommended site is elfingo.com for online auctions. They are the new ebay. Many smaller sites like this offer buyers far better deals than ebay ever could. Buyser also save a ton because this site charges little or nothing depending on the day. One more reaso I like elfingo.com is because they don't take a part of the sale at all. No commissions or final value fees. A+++ http://www.elfingo.com
Has anybody ever thought of getting a hold of the media to expose all the consumer issues that both ebay and paypal have? I'm sure that any of big news corp. would love to have an easy in depth story about the hundreds of thousands of cases where ebay and paypal have done wrong to their users. The consistent posts to this blog say a lot.
In order to force both ebay and paypal to do an overhaul, you have to provide them with a very credible threat.
It would not be unreasonable to think that if there was enough support for a well executed, widespread campaign against their bad business practices along with the beginning of the development of a new well advertised auction site that capitalizes on everything that ebay lacks for its users, that ebay would be forced to completely change the way they do business. It would also help if there were simultaneously a frenzy of costly lawsuits against the corporation in addition to lawsuits already pending.
I am particularly disgusted by the way they allow so many counterfeit items to be traded and sold across the world. I don't appreciate how they place limits on any account that sells brand name items when, in some instances they can just remove maybe 2 or 3 powersellers and resolve the heavy counterfeiting issues that they have with a majority of items in a category for particular brand.
You can't sell crap on that website without having it shut down by ebay.
I simply tried to sell a memory stick containing a program that will let Playstation Portable owners unbrick their PSPs, and low and behold? AUCTION IS ERASED FROM EXISTANCE within 4 hours.
Great. No refund on my 10 cents either.
Idiots.
eBay is horrible, everthing is honkey dorey until you have a problem. They do not take care of their members but are very efficient at charging and taking fees. I have had non payers that left me negative feedback and I cannot get it removed. eBay states that feedback is between members and they do not get involved. So anyone can say anything they want, even when the FACTS totally contradict their statements. I hope that the government starts looking into their business practices, and they become a dinosuar of the past.
John
Small Business E-commerce Technology Company Introduces Features Designed To Reach Markets Beyond eBay
New Web 2.0 e-commerce technology company FastCommerce.com announces the introduction of Google Products as a part of a larger strategy of giving on-line businesses access to a growing number of new marketplaces beyond eBay. While eBay offers small business entrepreneurs access to an immense market for on-line sales, it also presents continual challenges to small companies running on razor-thin margins. Recent changes in policy at the on-line auction site highlight the risks of running an on-line business with only one marketplace strategy.
San Mateo, CA (PRWEB) February 16, 2008 -- New Web 2.0 technologies offer access to a growing number of marketplaces for those on-line sellers who have traditionally relied on one large marketplace vendor to drive sales. For FastCommerce.com, the introduction of Google Products is just the first step in powering merchant access to these new and growing opportunities.
eBay has proved to be a large marketplace for selling on-line, but it continues to present challenges, even disruptions, to the small business entrepreneur looking to succeed in on-line sales. There are upfront fees for listing products, an expense regardless of whether the item is sold. eBay sellers also go up against a large number of direct competitors, which drives down profit margins for the majority of sales. Low margins compete with incremental expenses and changes in policy to make it more difficult for many small companies to build a profitable on-line business.
Moreover, eBay is only one marketplace at a time when the number of successful market venues continues to proliferate. The introduction of Google Products as well as Google Check-out highlights the need for moving beyond a single market strategy for increasing sales. The challenge and the opportunity for on-line sellers is to have access to an inexpensive single-system e-commerce application that can power both market reach and on-line sales.
E-commerce technologies that are market neutral enable the small business entrepreneur to compete in an array of marketing venues. FastCommerce.com automatically publishes its merchants' product catalogs to Google products. Or again, FastCommerce.com offers both Google Check-out and PayPal. With FastCommerce.com on-line merchants are not fettered by the strategy of a dominant industry player.
For example, David Pogue of the New York Times, in a review of Microsoft's revamped Office Live, points out that its integrated ad-word campaign tool is limited to only two search engines. As he writes, "You can place ads on Microsoft's search sites and Ask.com, which together represent less than 8 percent of search engine popularity. If you are going to advertise, you'd almost certainly prefer the exposure of the Big Two- Yahoo and Google- but they are not available through Office Live."
Small business entrepreneurs need access to inexpensive, single-system ecommerce applications that are easy and quick to set up, easy to use, and which let their users grow their business without growing their costs. For a low fixed monthly fee, FastCommerce.com allows a merchant to sell 2,000 product without transaction or user fees: small business entrepreneurs can grow their business at a fixed price with no hidden or incremental charges.
Finally, new Web 2.0 e-commerce technologies like FastCommerce.com offer an array of features that can power the whole of their on-line business. Gone are the days when a simple, cheap "shopping cart" can take small businesses to the next level. According to FastCommerce.com CEO Charles Han, today's small business e-commerce applications have to encompass all aspects of running a business, including detailed reports and analytics, order and customer management systems, and more. As he states, "It has to be enterprise in scope but with a small business price."
No less important, Han argues, "Today's small business e-commerce systems must also power the merchant's marketing. It is publish or perish, to search engines, shopping comparison sites, or retail search sites. On-line sellers do not have the skills or the time to do this themselves. They have to have an enterprise platform that connects all the dots for them."
December 17, I sold a set of Briney Sprear Curious Perfum on Ebay, someone bought it and paid by Paypal, gave me a great feedback which said his daughter loves it .
In January, Paypal withdrew fund from my account saying that the buyer said he did not receive the item. I showed Paypal his feedback , no one in paypal bothered to look, and surprisingly close the case without informing me. I lost the item, fees charge from Ebay, fees charge from Paypal . Hours and hours working with Paypal agents .
is ebay paypal???? or is paypal ebay???? maybe its payebay!!! there is definitly no pals there!!!
Last night "payebay" (aka: ebay & paypal) totally deleted FIFTEEEN!!!! of my auctions.
No matter people had already placed bids on some of them, or that lots of people had included them in their favourites. Or that it was a weeks worth of work for me. Or that is is financially debilitating to me and my family. No matter that I have been selling for 5 years with 99.8% positive feedback (and I might add that one neg was a vindictive retaliation and one was the buyer did not read the ad properly, not that ebay would do anything about them), Nor did it matter that my ebay bill is between $150 and $220 per month. Or that I do pay a fair share of paypal fees when I sell to overseas customers. Not to mention my strategic way of listing so as to optimise viewers from all over the world, had been dismantled.
With the click of a button, they vanished.
Why??? because of a few unmentionable words, which by the way were not in the ebay dictionary/rules when I first started, but have sneakily appreared in the ebay rules along with paypal.
These words that I used in my adverts were "paypal is accepted from overseas buyers only"
They were most unreasonable and very aggressive in their attack on my livelyhood.
I live in Australia, and our banking system here is cheaper to use than paypal, but paypal is convenient for overseas transactions. ebay/paypal want you to use paypal only, they only endorse and protect fully paypal transactions. They say that paying through my countries banking system is not safe. Nor is paying via money order, both of which used to be safe!!! and that paypal is the only safe way to pay. What a load of crap!!!
I am FURIOUS with them deleting my auctions like that, at the very least they could have messaged me, phoned me (they did so to get info out of me when building paypal up) or just taken one or two of my auctions off to get the message through, but not 15, oh they did leave a few crappy auctions on, not that they are crappy, but meaning that they did not bring in bigger money, and they, had the same sentence written in them!!!
The fatcats need pulling down, and put back into perspective.
Paypal and ebay are easy targets at the moment, and anyone who can match their selling power, or even come close, without the exhorbitant fees, unfair trials, greed and naziism rules could overtake them and put them out of business.
Do all rich people have a greed mindset???? can you not get ahead and even overtake them with goodheartedness and fairness to your fellow man/woman/child. How did ebay get so big and sooooo UGLY. You'd think that they would be grateful to the people who got them to where they are today, but instead they are bleeding them dry.
They have forgotten who helped them to get on top.
I am in the market for a new selling venue and a new overseas payment system. A conglomerate of people who know the pangs of ebay and paypal, and who would never do the same to others. That would be a good selling point for an auction site.
Yes payebay (aka: ebay & paypal) SUCK!!!! and they are losing their pals at a fast rate.
Try www.swapblaster.com . This site has a unique approach to selling and it costs only 7c after coming out from its beta state. For the next 6 months the buying and selling will be free. The approach may be strange in the beginning but you will get a feel of it, trust me. Go through the wiki pages and spread this word around. I believe this will be an integrated solution for all your day to day needs, material and non-material. Let us make this movement successful and find some NIRVANA in the sphere of online transactions. Good LUCK and God BLESS AMERICA.
Okay, this is classic Ebay. I had a perfume store that was suspended by Ebay for a supposed "trademark violation" although noone from Ebay could tell me what in particular was violating a trademark.
Well, I went through their process to get reinstated. You have to fax a bunch of info to prove you are the account holder, blah, blah, blah. I waited a few days all the while trying to get a hold of someone there which you can't to see if they got my fax. Needless to say, 10 days pass before I get an email saying they did not get all of my fax. Another 10 days pass. I spoke with an attorney who specializes in internet cases and had dealt with a perfume store in the same situation before. Basically unless you have 100s of thousands of dollars, you aren't going to be able to sue Ebay. Now I could spend $3000 to retain the attorney and he possibly had a contact at Ebay that could help me determine exactly what my trademark violation was and how to fix it, but for what little money I stand to make it doesn't make sense.
So anyway, about a month passes before I finally hear back from Ebay saying I am reinstated. Great, I thought. I revised all of my listings to make it absolutely clear that I bought these items from a liquidation lot, that they were pulled from shelves of department stores. All copy, photos, etc are mine. I changed the headings to read "Ralph Hot by Ralph Lauren" for example to make sure there was no confusion in who held the trademark. This was beginning of Jan 2008. For about a month I made several sales, I had 48 people leave feedback with a 100% rating.
Just the other day, my first batch of listings ran out. I had several 100 listings in store format. I thought I had set my preferences so as not to have them auto-relisted but apparently not because Ebay auto-relisted all of those after they expired 30 days from the first list date. Well, wouldn't you know....I get an email less than 24 hours later saying I am suspended from doing business on Ebay again....once again for trademark violation. My suspicion is that the auto-relist triggered something, as Ebay has had 30 days to have a problem with my listings and has not until a mass listing event happened. I have found on the internet several people saying their security software seems to have all sorts of problems.
What it all boils down to is this...Ebay is getting sued all over the world by trademark holders ( and even by a country!! France or Germany if I remember correctly ). Their people are not trained very well in what is and what isn't a trademark violation, so when in doubt, they just shut you down. The fact that noone from Ebay can tell me what in my listing is violating a trademark is confirmation of that. What makes this whole thing criminal on their part is I was charged for all the listings that went on only to be suspended less than a day later, and they will not refund my money! In any other line of business that would be called "stealing."
What I have learned in all my attempts to make an honest buck on the internet is this: If people are telling you they are making money or even making a living using one of many techniques on the internet, be highly sceptical!! The only people I can tell making money on Ebay are Ebay themselves with their high fees and business model that includes stealing money, and the cottage industry that has sprung up around Ebay directed at sellers on Ebay. Those would include all the supposed "wholesalers" who want to sell you product to offer on Ebay who are not wholesalers, but actually retailers who bought themselves at wholesale then mark it up and try to offer to you "wholesale". Beware these people, they are also called "internet middlemen". You will lose money using them. Also people selling these seminars and books and e-books on how great it is selling on Ebay. I'm sure there are people who do actually turn a profit on Ebay, but they must be few and far between. When you have people offering the same product, same exact item with price ranges running from $20-$55 and the wholesale cost is $25, there is just no way you are going to make money. Truthfully the only way I see to make money ( and you won't be making a living ) on Ebay is if you make your own product and therefore have little cost, or you are selling junk around your house that has already been paid for and depreciated over several years.
Anyway, that is my wonderful experience on Ebay. Needless to say, I am through with them. It was a noble experiment, but I won't allow my self to be suckered in by their sales pitches again about how great it is to open a store on Ebay. Not saying it couldn't work for you, but lesson learned....stay away from any product that could cause trademark problems ( just about everything )...especially designer brand items. Thanks for reading, and stay safe out there...the internet is full of people trying to take our hard earned dollars with dreams of making a nice income sitting in front of the computer.
Ebay charge 10% or more for the new fee. How buyer can get a real good deal
I've got news for you sellers who think eBay protects buyers - they don't! I've closed my eBay account for the 4th time yesterday. The first time I closed it was because the merchandise I was being sent ended up being department store prices for garage sale quality items. The second time was because a seller lied to me 3 times about when he shipped my item - I paid for priority shipping that was supposed to be 2-3 day delivery and I didn't get it for 3 weeks. I left him negative feedback and he retaliated with negative feedback even though I had paid him immediately after the auction ended. The third time was because the sellers don't leave feedback for buyers based on the buyer's actions, but whether or not the seller got positive feedback. I bought one Mrs. Beasely doll that was described in "excellent" condition. Yeah, excellent condition that included stains on the doll and its apron plus broken glasses. I found the seller had left retaliatory feedback for a couple of other sellers and I knew if I left honest feedback she'd do the same for me. Yesterday was the final straw for me! I bought an item on eBay Express, paid for it immediately, and a few minutes later received an email from eBay stating the item had been cancelled. No other explanation other than my money would be refunded from PayPal. When I went to My eBay section and clicked on the auction, it stated payment for the item had been cancelled. I did NOT cancel the payment, eBay did - why, I have no clue. I thought it wasn't available for whatever reason and purchased the same item from another seller. The seller of the cancelled auction got all pissy about me not paying for her item. I explained in numerous emails to her that eBay cancelled it, not me. She just refused to accept that so I contacted eBay TWICE asking them to let her know I didn't cancel the order, they did. Ebay refused to contact her and said I had to call her - paying for a long distance call - and talk to her. Why? Why should I waste more money calling this seller when I'd already explained it to her several times & she was basically calling me a liar. I'm sick of eBay and their crappy service! All they're interested in is getting their money and screw the honest buyers and the honest sellers. This time is the last time with eBay. I'm finished. I hope eBay goes out of business - it would serve them and their dishonest, lying sellers and buyers right!
Ebay Sucks!
That is the understatement of the year. Listen to what these idiots did to me. First off I sold some products on ebay and had quite a few listed in my ebay store until the price of holding products in your store sky rocketed. I was on ebay for 6 months and their rates went up twice. So anyway I decided that the charges were to high and I pulled all of my listings and shut down my store. I paid all of my fees and went about my business. Then 6 months later ebay comes back and says that I owe 260 dollars for over credits. So I call ebay and their superstar customer service rep says that the computer found a bunch of over credits to my listings. So they show me all of these so called over credits to my accounts and they are like 2-10 cent so called credits to around 150 different listings that I had at one time. Totally 260 dollars. How can that be I said that I paid and closed my accounts 6 months ago? The superstar says that they recently did an audit and that is what they came up with? So by that rational ebay could charge me whatever they want whenever they want. I refused to pay for these made up charges and I have been getting phone calls from creditors ever since about paying this fony charge. The extent of greed that this company has is unreal. I paid thousands of dollars in fees to ebay and that wasn't enough they had to create charges to get more out of me. To fight this rediculous charge would cost me 10 times as much as it would be to just pay it. Hurting my credit history and tarnishing my reputation is more costly than the 260 dollars but I just can not pay this fee. So in closing ebay does suck they are way out of control and should be stopped. But good luck with that.
I have gone thru hell with ebay. Ebay and paypal is one company. i paid for an item, $ 2150.00 for a diamond ring. never got to see my money or the diamond. Moreover i have seen people with 4000 feedbacks all 100% Positive vanish from ebay , whY ? cause ebay kicked them out. and guys with 90% feedbacks still defrauding buyers and milking them for money.
So frustrated i went on to search for a place where i can sell jewelry and found www.jewelrygrabber.com
Its a simple site. however only for jewelry. Guess what i am selling even though its picking up, I wish best of luck to jewelrygrabber guys.. Kick ebay's butt and come out with an all rounder site that sells everything.
Ebay Sucks...
I predict that one day a frustrated seller or buyer will go to the head office of ebay or paypal with a gun then shoot up the place. Like going postal but worse.
I've also heard that eBay has a creepy corporate culture.
Sellers – Boycott eBay on Feb 20, 2008
eBay has made some changes that will take effect February 20, 2008. They are marketing a decrease in listing fees, coupled with benefits for buyers and sellers. The truth is that although listing fees re being slightly decreased (from 5 cents to 20% depending on item value), final value fees are being increased DRASTICALLY. PowerSellers get discounts, but it will not get them back to as good a situation as they are currently in!
More importantly, eBay is ELIMINATING NEGATIVE FEEDBACK for buyers!!! That means as a seller you cannot leave negative feedback for a buyer. You either leave positive feedback or no feedback!! This is what eBay is marketing as a benefit for buyers. Obviously it is a benefit for buyers...but buyers that represent the scum off the earth and certainly not the good, honest buyers that eBay should be trying to attract. This is a loss for honest buyers, a loss for sellers and a negative for the whole eBay community. Starting February 20, dishonest buyers will be able to delay and avoid payment with no serious consequences whatsoever! We all know about the three-strikes-and-you're-out for non-paying bidders. With no negative feedback allowed, all buyers essentially get a free pass to not pay for 2 items!!
hey geys i have kept this blog saved for a long time and i have seen what has been written here...Ebay has really took people for a loop all the time...well here is another place that might help a little... it does give good Ideas on some thng...check it out http://onlineauctionsforums.phpbb.instant-forum.com/
cut and past this web site and help others learn too
thanks
eBay just changed their user interface and it sucks. You have to click more links to get the items you want. Also the servers are giving: bad server response errors
I have also been a victim of unfair treatment by ebay and have decided to leave ebay behind and support their competition helping my business grow at the same time, i have found the best alternative to ebay that is out there at the minute, these guys have just made major investment in their site and it looks great and is easy to use and for customers to search for goods, they also maintain a personal presance on the site and charge nominal fees, check out my site www.leaveebay.net to get links to this great site and also some other useful links to some paypal alternatives etc.
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Is it just me or are eBay seller fees getting higher and higher? I just recently listed an item with a starting bid of $50 and got charged over $5 just to list it. To make it even better, they will also charge an end of auction fee.
Is it just me or do they keep on raising their fees to take advantage of their market "monopoly" ?
I find this rediculous, so I have decided to try something myself. I recently opened an auction/classifieds website that hopefully someday could give eBay some competition.
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Ebay are scum. Thay couldn't care less that I was defrauded out of 2500 bucks because someone had stolen an ID and was listing fake items. Ebay have washed their nicely manicured fat little gold-fingered hands of the situation. I have washed my hands of them.
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Ebay really does suck.
My problem with ebay is that you can't send a message to other ebay members that you are not in a deal with.
So if you spot that someone is purchasing say a counterfiet item you can't warn them.
Their is no reason for this except ebay do not want people to contact one another in case they do business outside ebay.
Crap realls as they do nothing about the sale of counterfiet goods as that would also cost them money.
Onderwerp: Drama in Apeldoorn. Harde actie vereist en persoonlijk door laksheid banken ben ik 18000 euro verloren en wordt niet vergoed!!!!
Vraag/opmerking: na de afgelopen weken van terrorisme rondom de tunnel onder het station is de maat nu toch echt vol. Ik heb een brief naar de verantwoordelijke minister geschreven over de wantoestanden in gemeente Apeldoorn, ook namens vele medebewoners in de wijk. er zijn weer fietsen gesmeten over het nieuwe plein, vechtpartijen, ruiten ingegooid bij het R.O.C.en brandjes gesticht, loverboys en junks. Kinderen spelen tussen spuiten en wietzakjes! denkt u eens in te wonen in de buurt, aangedaan door planningvan de gemeente apeldorn. En planschade is al een half jaar in onderzoek, wat dik over 30000 euro hoort te gaan, daar de huizen onverkoopbaar zijn geworden! dit alles onder toezicht van camera`s en fietsen in tuinen gegooid van bewoners aan de 2e wormensweg 38. De stadsdeelmanager heeft op een bijeenkomst enkele zoethouder`s toegezegd, maar dathaalt bij dit tuig niets uit. er gaan verhalen rond, dat burger`s zelf de heertje`s uit d maten willen aanpakken, en dan met knuppels
. Dit lijkt mij niet de bedoeling, maar men beschermd gewoon zijn eigen spullen, waar de gemeente Apeldoorn faalt. Wij hebben de indruk, dat er meer tijd en geld voor REESINK is dan voor het welzijn van de Apeldoornse burger. Ik heb voorgesteld de fietsroute te verleggen van de 2e wormenseweg naar de Laan v/d mensenrechten omdat ze daar in de weekenden kunnen vernielen, schreeuwen zodat niemand er last van heeft. Oook ben ik actief bezig de talloze fietsendiefstallen een halt toe te roepen, welke gepleegd worden bij de onbewaakte fietsenstalling aan het stationsplein-zuid. er is daar al een daderteamopgericht bij de politie. Er worden gem. 5 fietsen per dag gestolen. daarvoor heb ik prorail aansprakelijk gesteld, daar zij willens en wetens de stalling er toch hebben geplaats. zelf steekt het mij, dat uw reactie via Hr Otto over een bouwkavel i.v.m. mijn zeer slechte medicsche toestand zo is afgedaan. Dat motiveert mij ds te meer deze strijd op te voeren, daar het goede o
verleg ver te zoeken is bij de Gemeente Apeldoorn! ik hoop dat uw ogen open gaan en er een structureel overleg op gang komt. en HARD aanpakken is gewenst. Oook wil ik mijn woning aan de gemeente te koop aanbieden, daar deze vele malen per dag gebruikt wordt voor parkeerlus. dan kunt U he verhuren en ik een huisje bouwen in de zonnehoeve of as v/d/ ankelaar. Ik hoop dat ikdaar nog enekele jaren rustig kan leven.
ik wacht uw antwoordt af en hoop op enige urgentie!
m.v.g.
W.R.M. Leuverink
2e wormenseweg 38
7331 VE Apeldoorn
P.s. Ik schrijf U deze brief/mail omdat de politiek in Apeldoorn niets doet en de stad in rap tempo afglijdt naar een wildwest. ik ben al een jaar met wethouders in conclaaf, en steeds nemen ze mij niet serieus terwijl ik veel steun geniet van de bevolking. ingrijpen op regeringsniveau is hoogst noodzakelijk om te voorkomen dat er doden gaan vallen. mensen willen dat tuig te lijf gaan om hun eigen spullen te beschermen. De politie komt middelen te kort, politiek leeft in gouden toren en wij (burgers) mogen niets doen, behalve een waarschuwend vingertje opsteken met als antwoordt een middelvingen! graag wil ik U vragen een brief te sturen naar verantwoordelijke wethouder/burgermeester met mijn naam en mijn grieven. de handtekeningen/mails hebben ze al, wederom geen actie.
M.v.g.
W.R.M. Leuverink
2ewormenseweg 38
7331 VE Apeldoorn
tel: 0647137822
Ebay does suck! Their commissions and listing prices nail you in the keester on the way in and nail you on the way out. There is nothing I can say here that hasn't been said in the previous 959 postings. Do I have a recomendation? You bet I do!! Its a RIOT! It has a one time yearly membership dues, which lets members buy or sell as much as they want without an additional costs. This site does not have a commission to make on the sales of those that using the service. The cost? Less than $ .18 per day. You can make money on referals and on those who your referals refer.
Go to http://www.ziot.com/?u=captainfire
Check it out. Do your homework so that you will be satisfied.
Danny Davis
We do not live in a communist country and eBay conducting their business as such isn’t taken lightly by the american people.
I am a victim of eBay's "because-we-said-so" enforcements was convicted and condemned without investigation or inquiry.
Ebay closed down all of my 47 listings and pocketed the $70+ fees. The reason? My sister bid on one of my items. Yes. You heard me correctly.
If selling to a relative is a crime, I’m part of a multi-million count group who was totally unaware.
Their policies are broad and vague so that they may be twisted and turned any way which suits their purpose. Assumptions and accusations are handled as truth. Their ability to mediate problem situations - non-existent.
A sister bidding on one of my items is no justification for Ebay to help themselves to $70 of my money. But they feel it is. Why? Because they said so. That's the end of it. Discussion is over.
By the way, my sister lives three states away. She placed on a bid on one of my items. This is my crime. Ebay sellers, I hope you are heeding this message carefully.
Ebay's erroneous shoot-from-the-hip actions have cost me over $70 in lost listing fees, lost potential sales, countless hours I spent preparing my listings, not to mention dissappointing my buyers.
They restricted my account, froze my half.com sales, stripped my status and retained funds that did not belong to them. They have yet to respond to my emails.
For the record, I have over 1,400 Positive feedback (Yes - No Negatives! An incredible feat in this day and age), and powerseller status.
Really! They have to be stopped. This is crossing the line.
There's no integrity in ebay anymore! you have idiots selling items the cheapest they possibly can profiting $1.00 per sale instead of keeping the value of the product high. There's items on there people willingly would love to pay %600-700 dollars for but some bonehead came in and listed his for %69.99
This type of penny pinching mentality kills me!
Ebay has no process for resolving claims of extenuating circumstance, this is a fact as all options for disputing an issue are pre-populated by Ebay on their Dispute Console. My situation is as follows:
1. I successfully sold an item.
2. I sent invoice, buyer didn't pay for 5 days.
3. I then sent email and called the buyer (disconnected number) and waited 2 additional days.
4. On day 8 I tried to fill out Unpaid Item Form which did kept giving me error message stating I had to wait 7 days to file, and the date it showed, was two days in the past???
5. I contacted customer service and explained situation with great care and articulation.
6. Was referred back to Unpaid Item Form as if my complaint had fallen on deaf ears.
7. Offered item to second chance bidder. Accepted paid for immediately. Shipped immediately.
8. Filed negative feedback on first bidder.(That's why it's supposed to be there, to protect seller's/buyer's )
9. After feedback posted, first bidder pays for item via Paypal, strange because item should have been noted as sold when second chance bidder paid via Paypal???
10. First bidders excuse was "I partied too hard over holidays and forgot that I bid".
11. I refunded first bidders money and tried to file Unpaid Item to get a refund of my fees, I was charged for BOTH buyers, the sale amount was large and so are the fees. Same problem as stated in number four, Ebay keeps blocking UPI form stating I have to wait till a date that is now far into the past.
12.Tried to contact ebay again, explained issue above almost verbatim, and got not answer except what seems to be a copy and paste reply to use the dispute console.
13. This is not the first issue that I have had with Ebay, but, this is the last straw, I have been a seller and a buyer for years and I am going to tell everyone that I meet to avoid Ebay like a plague.
14. I am now steaming mad, I am going to cancel my credit card I use to have my Ebay fees deducted from, and become a NON-PAYING SELLER and I dare Ebay to try to collect this money from me.
eBay operates in Frnace w/p a license and hides as a broker to continue to operate? Told you this company is fishy! Check this link out:
http://www.itworld.com/Tech/2403/071203ebayfrance/
pls watch thi video. shame on ebay/paypal!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phvMn6Uu2k8
Mehmet _vs_Paypal NewYorkIndex# 110537/07 - UPDATE
Sent: 08-02-2007 03:39 Quote Reply
My name is B. David Mehmet and I'm the real damn deal and I don't allow anyone to take advantage of me and break the law in doing so. When Paypal violated me this week, I immediately went to the court house yesterday and filed a lawsuit against them for (1) Fraud, (2) Conversion and (3) Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress. Paypal not only harmed me with my Paypal account; but the inability to forward the payments to the third-parties has caused me to lose two (2) contracts. One of the contracts is valued in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Even after I supplied Paypal with the additional verification they requested, they still failed to release my funds. They then claimed that I owed them money from an old account in the amount of $695.00. Not only did they not send me proof of this debt or allow me to access the old account; but they are still holding $1,950.00 of my money, which is $1,255 above what they claim I owe them.
I've established this TOPIC so everyone can see that suing Paypal is easy, and that this is the fastest way to resolve any dispute when it comes to Paypal. In addition, you could also win punitive damages against Paypal since this is habitual behavior with Paypal. Their behavior creates a pattern of behavior that can be used to prove tortious conduct against them.
The following is my OPINION: Litigation process in New York
1) Request that the offending party to remedy the situation
2) File a Complaint with the court and purchase an Index#
3) Have a process server serve Paypal with the complaint
4) Paypal will have 20-30 Days to Answer the complaint
5) File an RJI (Request for Judicial Intervention). The judge will be assigned.
6) File a request for a PC (Preliminary Conference). The schedule for the litigation will
be established and when the Notice of Trial is to be filed. This includes the completion of all
discovery. You will have an opportunity to request Paypal to produce executives from their office to
attend a deposition where you will be able to ask them any relevant questions. If they fail to answer
any relevant questions, you can make a Motion to Compel their answer. The Judge will force them to
answer.
7) This is a good time to make a summary motion. A motion that will end the case in your favor. It tells the court that there are no trialable issues of fact that would warrant a trial. Paypal would have to establish that there are issues of fact, which at times is not hard to do; but they must be of a material nature. Just because there are issues of fact doesn't mean it will win them a denial of the motion. For example, you could move against Paypal for LIABILITY. Your argument is that after you satisfied Paypal's request for additional verification, Paypal still refused to release your funds on the grounds that there was still a pending investigation (issue of fact). However, because you supplied them with the requested verification and the alleged debt to them for $695.00 does not justify them holding the balance of $1,255.00 of your money, the could rule that the issue of fact by Paypal is not of a material nature as to the $1,255.00 balance and the judge would grant the summary motion on liability against Paypal. The remaining issue at this time is DAMAGES. If paypal's wrongful conduct caused you to lose some type of benefit, Paypal could be liable to you for that lose. Thus, damages could be very high against paypal. This would be compensatory damages. Punitive damages is another story. Because it can be proven that Paypal's tortious conduct is of a habitual nature, they would be hit with huge punitive damages to punish them and deter them from engaging in this conduct again. Since Paypal has been doing this to thousands of members even after it settled a prior class action lawsuit, Paypal can really be hit hard with serious punitive damages.
8) At the end, the trial occurs. If the case is not fully disposed of before this point.
Keep following this TOPIC for continuous UPDATES on the lawsuit against Paypal in New York.
this is from another site. I HOPE HE WINS this lawsuit!!!
Mehmet _vs_Paypal NewYorkIndex# 110537/07 - UPDATE
Sent: 08-02-2007 10:53 Quote Reply
LAWSUIT UPDATE:
When viewing the following images, just enlarge them. This is the Summons and Complaint that was filed yesterday in the Supreme Court, New York County against Defendant Paypal, Inc. It is currently in the process servers possession who is serving it today on Defendant Paypal, Inc.
Summons:
http://www.geocities.com/mbk20001/Summons.jpg
Complaint:
http://www.geocities.com/mbk20001/Complaint.jpg
twice ebay has stopped me from selling a peice of ham radio equipment because they THINK it might be an illegal item that could be used on cb radio :(
Then I was paid for an item thru paypal and 2 days later the person that bought it decided to beat me out of the money. he called his bank and had payment stopped and paypal withdrew the money from my account and billed me for it... whats wrong with this picture?
I had a transaction on Ebay October 16 2007, Did not ship for weeks.
I asked the seller to cancel the transaction and return my money. He refused to reply to my email and could not phone him, despite putting NEW sale items on ebay, and while RESPONDING to my questions on the NEW ITEMS. The seller refused to respond to my inquiries of where my product was, when I would receive it, and my demands to cancel the transaction
I registered a complaint with Ebay and Paypal, no satisfaction.
I finally received the product (power supply for my laptop). The time I could not use my laptop was difficult. Kept me from working. The product came too late, and I had to resolve this locally.
December 1 2007 I received an email from the seller that he placed negative feedback ON ME, even though I payed within hours. I've NEVER HAD NEGATIVE FEEDBACK!
The Seller wants to PAY ME $100 to remove the negative feedback on BOTH of our accounts. -I responded to him that $100 isn't enough, I need $300. (Extortion can work 2 ways, can't it?) I was happy to just leave this as negative feedback to him, but NOW, this has incited me to action. -I won't accept negative feedback on me, and I don't like this!
I believe EBAY knows this occurs and wants everyone to think FEEDBACK is truthful. It isn't! This case shows why!
I will email you the copy of all emails created to EXTORT my reversal of the TRUE FEEDBACK which damages EBAY. This isn't about the seller NOT SHIPPING, or NOT COMMUNICATING, this is about EBAY creating DAMAGE CONTROL to the entire infrastructure.
Ebay is most profitable when EVERYBODY looks GOOD.
This problem isn't good for me or the seller. BUT the truth at the earliest point could have corrected this and kept it from being amplified.
Bless Your Thoughts.
Contacting The FBI
By Cal S.
I'd recommend contacting the FBI of Los Angeles, White Collar Crime Division. If you have any documentation of instances where Paypal has practiced unlawful cases. I know you have tons of information. They are interested in hearing them, and if there are complaints that backup some of the things that I have been saying, they would be willing to open a case against the company. You appear to have the resources to prove that there are tons of complaints, and I would like to forward them, along with any federal trade commission complaints and reports to the L.A. Federal Bureau of Investigation. They have no right to dictate the use of arbitration and limit consumer trades. I'm sure you understand the many practices of ridiculousness that the company has engaged in over the years, and their practices need to be investigated.
I'd be willing to put together a report of documentation of what has been going on with the company and of all pertainant litigations and complaints. You seem to have a resource for accessing many or a lot of these. I am also looking to contact the Federal Trade Commission, and see if we can get what they have on this.
They have no right to hold on to monies that are not theirs. They have no right to discriminate against who they choose. They have no right to blacklist other companies and individuals based on relation or suspect. If they are a corporation they need to be regulated under legal and governmental practices for an American Corporation.
Let me know anything you may have so I can help get that information to the FBI of Los Angeles please! Any thoughts, or means to get in contact with me would be greatly appreciated. I look forward to a response. Please respond back in a timely fashion so that we can get something done with this.
PAYPAL CARRIES MASTERCARD AND CARRIERS DO NOT GET PROTECTION? IS THIS LEGAL?
Just a question that came into my mind. How can MAStercard allow this to happen????
IN EBAY AND PAYPAL's WORLD
in painpal an ebay's world there are no warnings.in their world there is no second chances. in ebay and painpal's world YOU are guilty beyond reasonable doubt. In their world there in no further investigation based on their "risk model" you are treated as a criminal without a hearing. PainPal and eBay are Russian Roulette games...
This youtube video shows how ebay helps seller to open and close the store. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Jzc1V_1gC0
See ebay fee difference at http://pages.ebay.com/sell/announcement200607/overview/fees.html
If you item is listed less than $25, seller's final charge will be $3.53, that is 14%, current yearly interest rate is only 6%. Why sell at ebay and let it take weekly interest rate of 14%?
Why Ebay only announce fake paypal sign up(because 20% cash back and write off later)? Because the ebay seller subscription rate drops so fast that it will be disaster if they announce the ebay store closing rate.
If you use google product search http://www.google.com/prdhp?tab=wf ,
you could find best value product as google has merchant feedback review score. Usually they are at least 15% cheaper than the items at ebay with less shipping charge because no paypal and ebay transaction fee. And buyer has freedom to choose whatever payment method for security without expose their full privacy.
There are other nice treat at http://www.my3cents.com/companyReview.cgi?compid=41&subcat=29
Want to know how ebay treats its loyal seller, check out
http://blog.pixnet.net/applbite/category/753786
Ebay claim only Paypal is most trustworthy for buyer and seller. How
that could be without infringe more personal privacy information?
See other ebay seller talking about paypal
http://blogs.ebay.com/cypress-surplus
on the Cyber MOnday hot list this year was AMZN,DELL,BBY, but not EBAY.
Just did search on ebay for "New Dell Core 2 Duo Laptop", the cheapest is $620. If I go to use coupons and 3% cash back from http://www.fatwallet.com/cash-back-coupons.php, it will be less than $549. That is why ebay never show up in the http://www.dealcatcher.com as there is no good deal there, only junks or the same item plus ebay and paypal transaction fee.
Serious Privacy Issue In Ebay !
Because Paypal belongs to Ebay, most seller expose their finanical and privacy information to ebay. That is not normal for regular auction house. Does Ebay use that privacy information for other purpose? If Ebay use Paypal's privacy information for ebay's registration or monitoring purpose, is that illegal?
Normal online shopping site has third party credit authentication, If you want to cancel the transaction, you could simply do so calling your credit card company. Ebay could keeps all your personal information in his company.
Since eBay allows buyers that don't pay to leave feedbacks and it will still charge listing fee and final fee. As they control seller's payment source, so seller has no choice.
Here's my story. I'm dropping both of these bums. Thanks to everyone.
.....
Being a lover of all things dragon I was quite excited when I found the Dragon Tobacco Pipe on Ebay being sold by the Ebay store ********* aka Sharon ******* from Southport, Florida. I looked at the seller's rating and saw it was above 99% so I bid and won. Overall cash outlay - about $10.52 with shipping.
I made electronic payment with 24 hours and waited patiently for my prize. The pipe arrived about 4 days later by USPS priority mail. I eagerly opened the package. Disappointment immediately overtook me.
What I had received from this Ebay seller was not a tobacco pipe as advertised but a pipe intended for the smoking of marijuana, crack, or hash. I've never used illegal substances in my life, but I've had enough exposure to know what these various devices look like. Hell, I don't even know any drug dealers! It's useless to me!
The pipe was molded from a painted acrylic resin. Within its narrow almost one-half inch wide bowl was seated a shallow brass cup about 3/8” high. This pipe was designed to get really, really hot. Tobacco pipes tend to have large deep bowls and are designed to keep the smoke relatively cool. The pipe's bowl outlet was a small pinhole with no filter.
I immediately showed the pipe to two of my work mates. They conferred it was a crack/marijuana pipe. If there had been a photo from the top I would have known immediately what this item was. Now I was angry. How dare anyone send me an illegal item as this -especially the day before Thanksgiving. The law is quite specific regarding sale of these items through the mail.
I went over the law and Ebay's policy regarding these items and also their legal link. I wanted to make sure this was actually illegal before I pursued any actions. http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/21/863.html
I contacted the seller regarding the item and stated the above with the same link. I explained these items are not tobacco pipes. She then stated, “Well, I buy and sell them as tobacco pipes. What people actually do with them is their own business. A lot of people buy them because they collect dragons.” I stated I wanted my money back (the least of my concerns) plus the shipping and handling. I also stated I could not legally ship this item back to her.
She then wrote back that unless the item was returned, she wouldn't refund. I then told her I would take the issue up with Ebay, the credit card company (Paypal), and the proper authorities. I also told her i wasn't aware of any law that made these items legal because they were considered attractive or “collectible.”
I tried to contact immediately Ebay regarding the problem but they wouldn't allow a dispute until at least 10 days had passed. Personally, I feel this is a stupid policy especially when a felony has been committed (by mailing the item.) I'd settle down and wait till Friday.
On Friday, I paid a visit to my friendly neighborhood US postmaster. I explained the item that was sent to me was being represented as a “tobacco” pipe. What was sent was a contraband pipe for illegal substances. She immediately confirmed it was for drug use and gave me the number for the US postal inspectors office in Florida. I decided to wait till Monday since I was having phone problems. Meanwhile, I left negative feedback on the page explaining the items real function and that is was not for tobacco. I made no comments regarding the seller herself. From her attitude, I knew she would retaliate. She stated she had sold 100's of these pipes. My only thought was how many kids lives had she aided to ruin.
Buyer Feedback (me): Drug paraphernalia for crack/hash not tobacco. Is resin with small brass cup.
On Saturday, I filed a claim with Paypal. I then realized my first mistake. I should have examined the seller's feedback more in detail not simply the percentages. Sprinkled through the positive comments were occasional neutral and other negative comments regarding this item's unfitness for tobacco. Anyone that had made a negative comment was accused of being a dead beat buyer. Still no one except I had made a comment regarding what the item was- drug paraphernalia!
Further checking revealed she was also selling items regarding demonic magic. She was selling a link for $1.99. Multiple complaints stated the link was actually a free website! The materials weren't even hers.
Wonderful, I thought. This person might be a drug dealer that practices black magic that has no problems with misrepresentation of the truth. So much for morals. On late Sunday the seller decided to leave negative feedback regarding me. She totally made up lies claiming I had made violent legal threats against her and that I was a deadbeat trying to get the item for free. Her attack was personal. Any lawyers think I have a case for libel?
Seller Feedback: BEWARE OF THIS BUYER: makes violent legal threats want free items, mental issues.
[What exactly are “violent” legal threats? I simply explained the law with the link above.]
During the dispute process Ebay reveals the phone numbers and addresses of the plaintiffs to one another. This practice should stop immediately. If you are dealing with a psychotic, it could put your life in danger. This person took my personal information from Ebay... phone number, address, and email and starting signing me up at various sites for heroin/drug addiction. The information was available only at Ebay and Paypal from the way I had organized it.
I contacted Ebay and Paypal regarding the ID theft. Yes, this is ID theft also. I also complained about the retaliatory feedback that was essentially lies. This seller should be kicked of Ebay and Paypal.
What surprised me most is Ebay's foot dragging on this issue. A drug paraphernalia dealer totally trashes my 100% satisfaction rating, makes libelous comments against me, and all Ebay ever seems to do is issue forms letters with names attached. They then tell me its is their policy to show all feedback even if its is untrue or unjustified unless they get a court order to remove it. What total bull crap.
I will kill my account because I feel Ebay corporation has no morals. Its all about money in their own pocket. Sellers beware - unjustified negative feedback can ruin your business but leave Ebay laughing all the way to the bank. I'll just take my business elsewhere.
Ebay wants your money and asks you to be a good citizen/"community member", but when you stand up to criminal elements they drop you like a hot potato. They then allow these elements to harass you, steal your identity, ruin your business, and also ruin your reputation while hiding behind a “user agreement.” Ebay needs to learn that loyalty is a two way street.
Ebay is now returning my emails unanswered claiming it was not received. WTF does that mean? All ny emails now bounce. I had sent then the details of the ID theft down to the IP and time and they refused to acknowledge it.
Do your fellow human a favor - dump Ebay until they get reasonable policies, complain, and leave negative feedback when justified.
Hopefully, the postal inspector will be back in contact with me very soon.
Death to Ebay!
Ebay has kind of turned into the Umbrella corporation where as they are now taking over and ruling everyone's lives.
No matter how many petitions,auction sites,etc we make they will be here forever...I came to that sad conclusion recently. The more warnings or the more complaints from both buyers and sellers,the more people WANT it. Unless sellers and buyers totally boycott the site,it will be going nowhere.
Buyer would rather use credit card than paypal because
it will give cash back or mileage.
For seller, paypal charges higher transaction fee than
http://www.billmelater.com and "Google checkout".
Ebayer has no choice for "google checkout" or "billmelater".
With buyers get smarter, they could find cheap new item at
http://www.dealcatcher.com for desktop/notebook or http://www.onsale.com
for apple macs. Also with fee increase and powerseller leaving,
remaining ebayer sellers have to raise the price for the cost, that
means ebay buyers are difficult to find cheap item.
Check ebay forum for fee increase issue at
http://forums.ebay.com/db1/thread.jspa?threadID=410430259
My comments was posted at ebay forum
http://forums.ebay.com/db1/thread.jspa?messageID=1011028009
I just posted few comments last night. And today my account is blocked. I got no notice in email as well as no explanation. Is the reason such unreasonable and hard to explain? See the "blocked with no reason" screenshot at
http://lh4.google.com/ebayblockednoreaason/R0xi3Asj9kI/AAAAAAAAABY/4L5G4Xogj3c/blockedfornoreason.PNG
What is ebay spirit, Fair or Unfair, Freedom or Non-Freedom, Non-Greedy or Greedy?
PayPal employees steals from people!!!
http://www.paypalwarning.com/paypal_employee_theft
Check www.petitiononline.com. There are about 30000 angry ebay seller. Most seller got ripped off from fee increase(check the difference at http://pages.ebay.com/sell/announcement200607/overview/fees.html)
I think we should have a seller union to stand up like real man and strike the ebay. So they will not forget who made them successful.
another paypal petition with a hundred ( 100 ) signatures!!!
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/tpc
PAYPAL PETITION! with close to 3,000 signatures!!!! sign it!!!lets all stand together!
http://paypalpetition.com/petition/petition.shtml
Account Restored and Balance Returned to £0 after a chargeback
Sent: 11-17-2007 13:18 Quote Reply
To cut a long story short, I was ripped off by a fraudulent buyer when I sold a mobile phone on ebay for £360.
I received the payment through Paypal and sent the phone.
I then received a notification from Paypal telling me I am the victim of a chargeback from the buyers credit card and they took the money from my Paypal account leaving me with a negative balance of -£360.
I of course disputed this from the start as I had definate proof of delivery from Royal Mail.
I contacted the Financial Ombudsman with my complaint and they wrote to Paypal on my behalf.
After waiting nearly 4 weeks I got my final response from Paypal.
As a goodwill gesture they have restored my account and re-imbursed me the full amount.
This goes to prove that persistance pays off eventually and that the help of the Financial Ombudsman is invaluable!.
Dont give up, you cant win if you don't try!.
FINANCIAL OMBUDSMAN SERVICE- http://www.financial-ombudsman.org.uk
another paypal scandal!!! they are on tv!!! watch this video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4JqCoAQA9I
another paypal petition. pls support. let us take paypal to media/news ( CNN,CNBC, FOX etc )
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/stoppaypal/
i am gathering signatures to take to the FBI for petition against paypal. pls sign.this is the url: pls sign in
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/FBIpetition
Class Action v. Ebay, Paypal, et al Update for July 2007
There are a few law firms involved in these cases. I
forward each response that I get to all of them. Here are
two names:
Frederick W. Gaston
222 Ash Street
San Diego, CA 92101
Ph: (619) 398-1882
Fx: (619) 398-1887
www.sandiegolegal.us
Bill Heywood
Los Angeles, CA
tel: 310-463-7367
BillHeywood2002@yahoo.com
Bill Heywood is working on a class action against Paypal
wherein there have been substantial losses, i.e. $500.00
and more. Fred et al are working on class action against
Ebay for a variety of unfair business practices and unfair
suspension resulting in substantial losses.
Please feel free to call or email them with the details of
your cases.
Thanks very much for your responses.
Cheers,
Christina Marlowe
Posted: 07/10/2007 @ 02:00 PM (PDT)
PAYPAL 2007 CLASS ACTION LITIGANTS NEEDED: reader comment from thescotts1
Posted on: April 26, 2007, 9:02 AM PDT
Story: PayPal hit by class-action suit
Hello everyone,
Hear this, to ALL PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD OR ARE HAVING FINANCIAL ISSUES WITH PAYPAL, NOT RELATED TO PHISHING, I NEED ADDITIONAL PARTIES FOR MY ACTION: This is real. I am starting this thread on April 26, 2007 and I feel we should stop the chain August 1, 2007, so until then forward this to everyone you know because if you don't have a beef with Paypal, someone else might. Copy and paste and start an email chain.
For those that know my Paypal horror story I have decided to push forward with litigation, for those that don't here it is in a nutshell:
Billed customer via Paypal email billing, customer paid via Paypal email billing, 90 and 99 days later (two separate transactions, 1=2700 1=3500) customer decides to go into his own bank acccount and reverse the charges. Customer is a bank employee, did not file proper chargeback claims, but instead basically took the money back on his credit card. So since November 2006 I have been trying to get this resolved to no avail. After contacting local law enforcement, news media, customer's bank, Paypal, the constant suggestion was to sue the customer, so I did. Even after I won the first case (he wrote a check too for a separate repair then closed the account) Paypal refused to "believe" or "assist" me, instead they sent me to collections for the money my customer owes. In addition, when my customer reversed his charges and noted his account, the $6000+ negative wound up somehow putting me in the chexsystem so I am unable to open any new bank accounts in order to keep my funds safe from Paypal. I sued the customer for the $6100+, won, faxed that judgement to Paypal, they replied with "we are unable to dispute this chargeback any further" go after the buyer.
Er Go, my search for an Attorney, AND I FOUND ONE!
I retained an Attorney who wants to pursue the Class Action against paypal.
I need people who want to help me fight them.
He primarily wants people in California, however he said if it gets big enough he will go bigger, so if you are in another State, just make sure you tell him which State you are in.
So here is his email:
fg@sandiegolegal.us My Paypal esclusive email addy is paypalclassaction2007@cox.net if anyone wants or needs to verify validty.
His name is Fredrick/Fred Gaston with Gaston & Gaston
222 Ash Street San Diego 92101
Send him an email of your story/situation and put "TAMMY SCOTT" in the subject line.
Yes...the feedback system is highly flawed and offers no real protection. The bad actors leave you negative feedback just because they didn't deliver.
Shill bidding is rampant on Ebay to run up the price of items.
When you catch someone blatantly doing it and report them, Ebay sends you an e-mail assuring you that they will take care of it. Then, two days later, you receive another computer generated e-mail saying they took care of it.
However, Oh-By-The-Way they can't tell you what actions they took against the scammmer because that would violate the scammer's "privacy".
I have never seen E-bay shut down a shill bidder. Why? They make money when Items sell for more money.
They pretend to do something and rake in the money.
The online auction format is really a wide open door for scamsters. Unless all participants are fully vetted this type of nonsense will continue.
When I first started using Ebay it was awesome. I would win, pay and a week later my item was in the mailbox. Now from win to mailbox its taken as long as 9 weeks and I also Pay via Paypal within 24 hours of the win. Soem sellers have as many as 2000 listings! How can they possibly offer any service to a winner? If you leave neg feedback you end up getting it back also and its probably not even your fault. I have lost my desire to use Ebay.
I sold some stuff and was going to pay once someone had paid me for the fees manually when they auto take the 16 dollars from my pp account but only had like 10 so they took it from my bank account and than, they charged me a over draw fee of like 60 bucks????? EEERG!
I've got lots of issues with Ebay. I found your page using some anti-Ebay search words. But...
When you set up autopay, you assumed it would work retroactively because Ebay owns Paypal. That's not a logical statement.
You should have clarified this at the time you setup autopay without making unfounded assumptions.
I have been a customer for years and there was never any issue like me not paying for goods or complaints by customers. But despite having a linked Paypal account and credit card, I cannot even make small purchases. :O WTF?! Here is the message: to pretect other customers. Yeah , right!
Ecke Wichtiger Hinweis für Käufer
Um Mitgliedskonten zu schützen, beschränken wir die Anzahl der möglichen Gebote und Käufe für einzelne Mitglieder. Diese Beschränkung gilt nur vorübergehend. Sie können in Kürze wieder weitere Artikel kaufen.
Sicherheitstipp: Schützen Sie Ihr eBay-Mitgliedskonto. eBay fordert Sie in E-Mails niemals auf, persönliche Daten wie z. B. Ihr eBay Passwort anzugeben.
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this is in German. but I am outraged.
EBAY PROTECTS NIGRIAN SCAM ARTISTS
Sent: 07-16-2007 18:47 Quote Reply
ebay-sucks-com,
Can you believe the bullshit eBay does :
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&;userid=ridgefieldct
This person RIDGEFIELDCT is from Nigria and tried to scam about 7 sellers out of equipment. 7 Sellers over this weekend put negative feedback on this buyers account to warn other sellers that it was total fraud. Today just for the hell of it I decided to go back and check his feedback. And not to my amasement, eBay removed every single negative feedback the sellers left for this scam artist.
You tell me what people should do, eBay & PayPal deserve to be scammed left and right and we should start doing it for real, but only to the point where we f u c k up both PayPal and eBay without hurting sellers or buyers. Can you believe the bull s h i t eBay does. Must more proof that PayPal and eBay are nothing but a bunch of mother f u c k e n scam artists themselves!
They froze my account and demanded that I fax them documentation. I did, but they said they didn't get it. Now what?
First realize PayPal is asking for that information for their own purposes, not yours. Providing the information might get your account unfrozen if it's one of the "identity" issues above. However giving PayPal that information also provides them with information they could use against you if they don't believe you. If you believe this is just an honest misunderstanding, and you trust PayPal with your information, you should prepare copies of all the documents they ask for and mail them to PayPal. We suggest you create two sets of documents and mail them certified mail, Return Receipt Requested, to the two addresses we have for PayPal (see the FAQs page) with a letter explaining the situation. You should always send them certified mail, RRR, so you can prove that you did, and when you did it. When you get your green cards back in the mail, if PayPal has not resolved the problem, make copies, and write your letter to the Attorneys General of your state, California and Nebraska. (You can find this info on the links page.) Include your letter to PayPal, your copies of the green cards and a letter asking that the AG's start an investigation. Don't bother playing the fax game. It's just a ploy/delay tactic.
Additionally, you may report complaints to the Complaint Assistance Unit of the Division of Consumer Services of the Department of Consumer Affairs by contacting them in writing at 400 R Street, Sacramento, California 95814, or by telephone at (800) 952-5210.
According to the terms of the class action lawsuit settlement agreement, PayPal is supposed to provide you with the reason your account was frozen, and the information they have (subject to their privacy policy and fraud prevention policy). You should ask for this information if they don't give it. It may tell you what direction you need to go to resolve the problem.
Also, note that just because you get your account cleared up this time, there is nothing to prevent PayPal from freezing it again. It seems, once an account is flagged, it'll always be on the "suspect" list. They rely a lot on computer analysis of accounts and too little on common sense.
Lastly, I have to say... PayPal is not crack. You can walk away from it anytime. I hope you'd step back and think about it, why would you want to do business with a company that puts you through all this in the first place?
ebay sucks! We don't have the patience for that shit. And ebay users are weird cult like followers. Almost like people in AA. They use weird slogans, and descrips. A+++++++++++. Whatever! But Paypal takes the cake. Those people are the biggest crooks in the world, and homophobes to boot. Their service is not welcome on our site when it is launched. In any shape or form whatsoever!!!
PayPal has done a couple of good things for me along the way--I won a dispute and they froze the seller's account. The seller was pissed, not doubt, and it took forever to get the problem resolve--meaning, get my money back.
PayPal is becomming a loose cannon. Long story short, I Buy It Now'ed a Zero Gravity recliner on ebay. Less than a month, problems with chair. Seller at first wanted me to repair the chair if he provided the parts. Until He finally figured out the plastic arm rests were cracked. That cued him to accuse me of having abused the chair. Push led to insult and I filed a payment dispute with PayPal. Seller lies through his brown teeth and claims chair was full of dents and scratch's from my abuse. I then escalated to a claim. I tried to send in phots of the chair to prove no abuse, PayPal refused to accept them. They immediately went into deciding the faith of me and my piece of crap chair. They waited till the last day before 1 month after I filed the claim, and decided in favor of the seller. They did not even read my claim, instead they read the auction ad and decided that my claim of significantly not as advertised was not true. Seller's auction claimed 100% MBG but refused to honor it. Claimed 2 year warranty, but refused to honor it.
I then tried to file an appeal, my appeal was not even acknowledged, and when I called in, was told someone would be in contact within 24 hours, nothing. I then tried ebay to file a complaint, the email link on the contact us page was disabled. I happened to find an email link when I followed Police blotter link, no response from ebay, but email from paypal today saying they thought they answered my question. lol, what a joke. Ebay obviously sent them my message.
I found your message and you asked for like horror stories and here is mine.
I want to know how to contact Meg Whitman personally. I am considering filing a civil law suite and get a greedy trial lawyer who is hungry for some blood, besides mine.
Darryl.
Thanks to a subpoena my lawyer had issued I know who posted the two posts attacking me below. The charge against me will eventually dismissed. My attorney is trying to get a federal prosecutor interested in charging the person who stole my identity and committed the theft. That is precisely the person who posted the lies below, isn't it Wallace?
Hi Bruse.How are you???? My name is Galina.And i try to exsplain my some a litlle problem of ebay...I have no problem with Ebay now.But two years ago i was blocked by ebay of my account.And now so far so good.But now some sellers blocked their transaction of my account separately.Do you know any idea about this,that's will be really nice of you????? Please,let me know any time.Good Luck.
here is the link to her ebay criminal case
http://wcca.wicourts.gov/caseDetails.do;jsessionid=AB61C56F2CD89D0F8A5D8C0760DDB07E.render5?caseNo=2006CF000106&countyNo=42&cacheId=801124D8291A06AC4D21AB015739D0BD&recordCount=1&offset=0&mode=details&submit=View+Case+Details
Yep that one is a piece of work. She took my money from an ebay radio sale and never delivered. Sold the same radio to others. The case is still pending resolution in WI but the victims of her fraud know the truth
Hey...you should do a search for your fellow (and I do mean fellow) blogger Caitlyn Martin. He/She is accused of ripping off a number of ham radio people via fraudulent ebay transactions. Do a google search on his/her name, k9ni, and you'll get the story. He/she is a major scammer and typical of what you will eventually run into.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqdyCZZCLdU
phone conversation with a paypal supervisor exposed!!!!!
Thread: Wha ha ha ha Here is how to get them back!
usacomputertec
New User
From: Pomeroy
Messages: 2
Wha ha ha ha Here is how to get them back!
Sent: 11-05-2007 15:17 Quote Reply
Here is what you should do. PayPal will have no choice but to do what you want or they will have a worse reputation. Don't black mail them. Don't threaten to do any of what is shown below. Do it and then tell them that you will remove the recording if they will do what you ask.
There is a way to get their attention. Do you have yahoo e-mail? If you do send a message to all of these contacts (just copy and paste them all)
crme@paypal.com, appeal@paypal.com, harbor1@paypal.com, account-review@paypal.com, ppelce@paypal.com, cardreview@paypal.com, complaint-response@paypal.com, abuse@paypal.com, Europeanservices@paypal.com, resolution@paypal.com, resolutions@paypal.com, appeals@paypal.com, compliance@paypal.com, escalations@paypal.com, webform@paypal.com, service@paypal.com, spoof@paypal.com, complaints@paypal.com, aup@paypal.com, press@paypal.com, chargebackresponse@paypal.com, pending_reversal@paypal.com, global2@paypal.com, intl@paypal.com, ppe_courtesycredit@paypal.com, BoEappeal@paypal.com, kanadom1-2@paypal.com
in your BBC filed and then put service@paypal.com in your To Filed.
Inform them that you are going to report them to your Attorney General in your state (check to make sure PayPal has an office in your state, if they don't file with California). PayPal is in 36 states.
Also you can expect PayPal not to receive your phone calls any more so use this number instead: 866-888-4176 and tell them you were referred to Cory. Smile If she asks by who say it was the PayPal fraud and resolution department. lol. Make sure you have her on speaker phone and record the entire phone call from the part saying that they give you permission to call them to the end. Here is what I did http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=323A9B4B8876ADD9 Since these are all toll free numbers and you don't like PayPal call all of these numbers below too and see what different responses you get. Record them all. Plug your recorder into your PC and use Audacity to record them onto your computer. Anyone can help you with this. You should record each phone call seperatley. This will pay off. Then send them to admin@mindblowingidea.com, and admin@screw-paypal.com and I will upload them to the internet for everyone to hear. This way PayPal can't say that they never said these things. Just to make things interesting you can tell them at the end of the phone call that it was recorded and that it said at the beginning that the call may be recorded. Here are the numbers:
(877) 672-9725 1-877-6-paypal
(888) 221-1161 help center
(866) 272-9725
(800) 836-1859 Premier Account Holders
1-888-215-5506 (Toll Free Number)
1-888-221-1161 (Toll Free Number)
These are all Toll Free. If you are willing to Pay Long Distance here are the rest.
1-408-376-7414 (Meg Whitman, eBay CEO, Personal Office Fax Number)
1-402-935-2238 (Tiffany Zaporowski, Manager, Executive Escalations)
1-402-935-2116 (Elizabeth Morey, Supervisor, Executive Escalations)
1-402-935-2172 (Adam Braasch, Senior Agent)
1-402-935-2268 (Beth Beutler, Senior Agent)
1-402-935-5146 (Leslie Byrne, Senior Agent)
1-402-935-2269 (Michelle Davis, Senior Agent)
1-402-935-2399 (Janyce Erikson, Senior Agent)
1-402-935-5145 (Melody Fry, Senior Agent)
1-402-935-2174 (Jackie Hart, Senior Agent)
1-402-935-2229 (Michael Lazure, Senior Agent)
1-402-935-5163 (Rick Martin, Senior Agent)
1-402-935-5073 (Stephanie Mikovec, Senior Agent)
1-402-935-2157 (Megan Moore, Senior Agent) *WORKS WEEKENDS*
1-402-935-3533 (Peggy Pattavina, Senior Agent)
1-402-935-2331 (Tara Stevens, Senior Agent)
1-402-938-3532 (Megan Wetzel, Senior Agent)
1-408-376-7400 (Toll Number)
1-650-864-8000 (Toll Number)
1-402-935-2284 (Toll Number -- Banking and Check Issues)
1-402-935-2212 (Toll Number -- ACH Processing & Check Services)
1-402-935-2255 (Toll Number -- Account Review Department)
1-402-935-2257 (Toll Number -- Account Review Department)
1-402-935-2223 (Toll Number -- PayPal Compliance)
1-402-935-2250 (Toll Number -- PayPal Compliance)
1-402-935-2000 (Toll Number -- Customer Service Department)
1-402-935-2007 (Toll Number -- Customer Service Department)
1-402-935-5181 (Toll Number -- Debit Card Services)
1-402-935-2116 (Toll Number -- Escalations Department)
1-402-935-2129 (Toll Number -- Escalations Department)
1-402-935-2238 (Toll Number -- Management, Escalations Department)
1-402-935-2239 (Toll Number -- Fraud Prevention Department)
1-402-935-2251 (Toll Number -- Manager, Resolutions Department)
1-650-251-1101 (Toll FAX Number -- Never Fax w/o a Case Number!)
1-408-376-7514 (Toll FAX Number -- Never Fax w/o a Case Number!)
1-402-537-5755 (Toll FAX Number -- PayPal Chargeback Department)
1-402-938-2337 (Toll FAX Number -- Compliance Department)
1- 303-395-2802 (Toll FAX Number -- Compliance Department)
1-402-935-2050 (a U.S. telephone number)
(877) 672-9725 1-877-6-paypal
(888) 221-1161 help center
(402) 537-5740 (fax)
(866) 272-9725
(800) 836-1859 Premier Account Holders
(650) 251-1100
(402) 935-2000
(402) 935-2001
(402) 935-2062
(402) 935-7733
(402) 537-5740 FAX
Help Center: (888) 221-1161
PayPal Phone Numbers: America & Canada
1-402-935-2050 (Toll Number)
You probably don't want to fax SCREW PAYPAL to the fax numbers as this could be considered harassment. I would suggest instead sending the info of what happened and what you want like you send in the e-mails. I'm going to start a podshow channel online all about PayPal recordings and give the user name and password to the admin of screw paypal.com if I can. Then he can upload them as well.
Tuesday, 13-Nov-2007 17:03:42 MST By Paul Bezaire - How I sued PayPal in my local small claims court and won.
Rights Reserved, Paul Bezaire via NoPayPal.com/PayPalSucks.com
Having trouble with PayPal, I filed suit against them and got a $150.00 judgment. I had purchased an item on eBay using the PayPal payment system. One of the reasons for using PayPal was to avail MYSELF of their Money Back Guarantee to insure that the product I bought would be in good working order. When PayPal did not honor their Money Back Guarantee for the item, which turned out to be defective, I had no choice but to sue them in Small Claims Court for the amount of $150.00.
Their attempted defense to my filing a Small Claims action, in Los Angeles County, was based upon their contention that: “When he signed up for the account, Plaintiff agreed to the User Agreement for PayPal service specifically including the Legal Disputes section of the User Agreement” that said all law suits must be filed in Santa Clara, County, CA.
A Federal Court had already found that their User Agreement was unconscionable under California law. Referring to the provisions of the User Agreement the court said ". . .these provisions made the User Agreement unconscionable, and appear to represent an attempt by PayPal to insulate itself contractually from any meaningful challenge to its alleged practices." The Small Claims court awarded me judgment in the amount of $150.00 plus costs.
After being served with the Summons and Complaint, PayPal began firing all their guns at me. They began sending letters to the court challenging venue. They attempted to scare me into dismissing the lawsuit. One letter said in part, “If we do not hear from you , we intend to file a Motion to Compel Arbitration, along with a request that PayPal be reimbursed for its attorneys fees and costs associated with enforcing the terms of the User Agreement” Another said that, “Plaintiff entered into a binding contract with PayPal according to which he agreed that for disputes of $10,000 or less, he would resolve the matter through binding arbitration or by filing a lawsuit in a court of competent jurisdiction in Santa Clara County, California.” I ignored that contention and filed my complaint in Los Angeles county.
Subsequently, PayPay again wrote to the court challenging venue. Were they not aware that the Federal Court in Case C-02-1227 JF (Pvt) in 2002 said the following with respect to the User Agreement? "Having considered the terms of the User Agreement generally and the arbitration clause in particular, as well as the totality of the circumstances, the Court concludes that the User Agreement and arbitration clause are substantively unconscionable under California law and that arbitration cannot be compelled herein."
Trial was held on 10/20/2004. PayPal did not appear for the trial. It appeared that the expense of sending someone from San Jose to Los Angeles did not appeal to them.
Being dissatisfied with the judgment against them they filed a document requesting the court to Correct or Vacate the judgment which was eventually dismissed and reinstated by another judge.
I am not an attorney but believe that anyone, at least in California, can do the same thing I did for amounts under $5,000.00.
I was insulted when PayPal sent me a 7-page confidential agreement to sign wherein they offered to pay me my $202.00 if I would sign the agreement. The agreement prohibited me from telling anyone about the terms of the agreement. They must of really thought I was that stupid as to sign something that would prohibit me from sharing this information with other people who got stuck by PayPal.
More information at Paul's site, including a helpful link on how to sue in a small claims California court.
All Rights Reserved, Paul Paul Bezaire via NoPayPal.com/PayPalSucks.com. Limited quoting and copying of this story is allowed, provided a link back to this page or site is prominently provided.
BBB?
Writer Wishes To Remain Anonymous
I filed a Better Business Bureau complaint against eBay/PayPal today, but that's not relevant to what I'm wanting to share with you...
I noticed that there were noticably too few complaints showing against them considering their size, and of those questionably few complaints, the vast majority of complaints against these two internet giants had been either "assumed" or "administratively judged" resolved... odd since I know of very few people who have been able to successfully resolve a complaint with either of these businesses. Their extreme lack of customer service is a well established fact...
Upon further browsing on the BBB site, I think I found out why... eBay, Inc is on their advisory committee and their board of directors!!!
According to the membership standards, neither of these companies is even qualified to be BBB members, let alone be on the board of directors and advisory committee.
Just thought this info might be of extreme interest to you and your website ;)
SIGNED,
another PayPal victim
I didn't lose nearly as much money as anybody else, but basically here's my story: it's my first time selling on eBay. I went through all the kinks and eventually sold my first item. I thought that the seller was supposed to get the item shipped ASAP (I'm used to the REAL world). So I sent the MP3 player I was selling in nice bubble wrap, and even individually wrapped all the parts, like battery, and left a note thanking the buyer in the box, and I listed all the parts included.
This was before I was paid. Nobody told me it was a bad idea to ship before getting paid until AFTER I did it. I had no idea. The person got the MP3 player, messed it up, claimed it was broken when he got it, and sent it back without even checking with me first. After a week of angry e-mails back and forth, I found the dispute console. I disputed the payment. Nothing happened. So I thought that if I closed the dispute eBay would credit me the money I should have been paid (it's what everything I read sounded like, OFF OF EBAY'S OWN SITE). So I closed the dispute. I was in a good mood, I thought I was going to get credited and that everything was good. Then I read that that's just FVF credit, which in turn is just a refund for a fee that I didn't even know existed whenever you sell something. I'm sure this stuff was written somewhere on eBay's horrible site, but it's not very obvious at all.
So now I have this broken MP3 player (broken by the person who "bought" it from me) that I paid to ship to that bastard, and I'm out of listing fees unless I relist (like I really want to do business via eBay after this). I'm in the hole $9.05, and my once functional MP3 player is now a brick. eBay support basically laughed at me via e-mail.
Sure, say I should've read more, etc. etc. etc., but seriously, I get laughed at by support and get cussed out by a crooked eBay bidder who broke my MP3 player?
PayPal Employee Theft
By Alison Julian
In May, 2004, 17 thousand dollars was taken from my Paypal linked account, and an account linked to that one. It took weeks of work to track down the source of the theft. The head of security of a major bank told me it was due to an inside job. a ring of Paypal employees, in five days, managed to steal over $500,000 from paypal customers in Southern California alone. I'm amazed both by the fact that no one's discussing this, and that paypal won't even answer my e-mail questions about the theft. No apology, nothing. Really shabby.
Stronger Than PayPal
By Katya
Hello
Like many other people, Paypal has locked me out of money. They have "frozen" almost $10,000! I have contacted the California Attorney Generals' Office and sent in a written complaint. I was told that if enough people complain, they will do a thorough investigation which will or should end up in making all our lives better. The link to the Attorney Generals' complaint form is: http://caag.state.ca.us/consumers/mailform.htm
There is also an attorney firm initiang a class action. Please contact the law offices of: Girard Gibbs & De Bartolomeo call Jared Craft at (866) 981-4800. Please, let's all work together and take care of business and protect our rights! Together, we the people are stronger than Paypal and if we work together, we will see results! Please take 10 minutes out of your day, and help us all by sending in your complaints.
Thank you all very much!
this is the lawyers who won the class action lawsuit against paypal/ebay few years ago. call them for a class action lawsuit - 1888 5226291
Please remember to file complaints w/ the FTC!
Sent: 02-11-2006 00:13 Quote Reply
Hi, I was just wondering if everyone was taking the time to contact the FTC concerning their problems with Paypal and Ebay. After contacting them, they informed me that they will not act on individual complaints; however, if they are to receive a sufficient number of complaints regarding these both of these companies (which are actually one and the same now) that they would open an official investigation. It takes only a few moments of your time and it sure never hurts just to try. You can make your complaint at https://rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01
Also, a complaint to the Better Business Bureau at least gets your complaint on file. The address for complaints to the BBB is: http://complaint.bbb.org/
This information may have been posted before, but I hope everyone will take a moment to stand up and take action. Every little bit helps!
Thank you for taking the time to read this. I know the rule is not to post the same message in more than one forum, so I hope it wont be a problem if I post this message in the Paypal horror story forum as well. It's just so difficult for us as individuals to stand up to these large corporations, so maybe if we act together as a group, we might see some progress?? One can only hope.
Trish
Details on the Proposed Settlement of the class action lawsuit
Sent: 01-22-2006 07:17 Quote Reply
,
Have you contacted these folks yet?
California AG's Office:
County of Santa Clara
Office of the District Attorney
Consumer Mediation Services
9am to noon and noon to 4pm
1-408-792-2880
Nebraska Office of the Attorney General
2115 State Capitol
Lincoln, NE 68509
(402) 471-2682
Toll-free Consumer Protection Line:
1-800-727-6432
http://www.ago.state.ne.us/
By PayPal Whistle Blower #1
Rights Reserved, NoPayPal.com/PayPalSucsks.com
The following posts came from a PayPal Employee who posted on our old guestbook as "Whistle_Blower." Actually I thought I lost this information due to a hard drive failure on the original server, but doing some cleaning out of my home computer, I was so happy and suprised to find it in an old backup set! So here it is again. I verified the IP as coming directly from PayPal.com. This information is for historical purposes only, as I'm sure the names, email addresses and phone numbers are probably no longer valid, and a lot has changed in the last 3 years. (I don't know if PayPal still outsources it's first level of support outside the U.S.) But still it's interesting to see the history of this company from the insider's view.
June 07 2001 - by "Whistle_blower"
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Complaints about Paypal service should be directed to Rhonda Coale and Sarah Imbach. Sarah Imbach is VP Fraud Investigations and Appeals. Sarah can be reached by e-mail at simbach@paypal.com. Rhonda Coale works for Sarah and she can be contacted at rcoale@paypal.com. You may also call her at (402)-935-2233. Another avenue for handling complaints about Paypal is to contact the Nebraska Attorney General at http//www.nol.org/home/ago/ and fill out a consumer complaint form online. You can also call the Atty. General at (402)-471-2682 or toll free at 1-800-727-6432. It is VERY important that regulatory agencies learn about the despicable manner in which Paypal treats its customers. This will make them wake up and take notice.
June 14 2001 - by "Whistle_blower"
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Two main reasons for Paypal's poor service record to date are (1) Organizational turmoil at its Omaha service center and (2) Incompetent managers and employees recruited by the dozen in Omaha, Nebraska. The Omaha service center will have new top management for the SECOND time in 2001. Sara Imbach (VP Fraud Investigations and Appeals) and Mark Sullivan (VP Business Development)are going to manage the customer service folks in Omaha. Omaha's low unemployment rate combined with Paypal's meager salaries have made it difficult for Paypal to find experienced or talented people for management or rank and file jobs in customer service. Most Paypal customer service representatives (CSR) in Omaha were flipping burgers just a few months ago. Also, several Paypal CSR's have had severe financial problems in the past. REMEMBER - THESE GUYS HAVE ACCESS TO YOUR CREDIT CARD AND BANK ACCOUNT INFORMATION. Many Paypal managers have had no significant management experience or were rejected by other institutions. Rhonda Coale, the Fraud Manager, did not cut it at a local family-owned bank in Omaha. Chad, the Paypal manager for complaints filed with the Attorney General's Office and Paypal Damon, occasionally masquerades as an attorney to intimidate irate customers even though he has never been to law school. Poorly qualified managers translates into poorly motivated employees. This combination = BAD SERVICE and LOTS OF HASSLES FOR THE CUSTOMER.
June 19 2001 - by "Whistle_blower"
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Paypal has outsourced customer service by e-mail to a local firm in New Delhi, India--halfway around the world. Mark Sullivan, the new guy in charge at the Omaha Service Center, was instrumental in setting up the India Customer Service Program. Many US companies have gone to India it gives them access to an educated, motivated workforce at a fragment of the payroll cost in the US. Typically, the role of the overseas service provider is limited to providing information about the product or service. In no instance has any bank or financial institution outsourced any function overseas that involves disclosure or exchange of private information such as data about their customers credit card or bank accounts because it is murky who has jurisdiction over the transaction and which laws would govern. [Others] established their customer service center in South Dakota rather than overseas for this very reason. THE INDIA CUSTOMER SERVICE PROGRAM IS EXTREMELY RISKY FOR PAYPAL USERS. CSRs in India are paid only $200/- per month. The financial system in India, like any other third world country, is extremely corrupt. This corrpution, combined with strict exchange controls and low CSR pay, sets the program in India up as a fertile ground for fraudulent activity. Paypal loves it when their users contact them by email because it is cheaper to process the transaction in that manner. Mark Sullivan cut costs for Paypal and put thousands of unsuspecting Paypal customers at risk. This is an example of business development, Paypal style.
August 21 2001 - by "Whistle_blower"
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The Comptroller of the Currency is another agency where a complaint regarding PayPal excesses may be filed. Contact William S. Glover, Assistant Deputy Comptroller at (402)-493-0654. This is an agency of the Federal government that enforces regulations related to money suppy in the United States. Indiscriminate freezing of "stored value" accounts by PayPal impacts US money supply. Also, if you are an employee you may be eligible for an award!!!! EXPOSE PAYPAL NOW.
But the real humdinger was this one. Not only did it come from a PayPal.com owned IP, but after it was posted PayPal immediately contacted us and demanded to know the IP of the poster. We politely refused. :-)
May 30 2001 - by "Whistle_blower"
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You have to be nuts to trust Paypal with your bank account or credit card information because they have poor security procedures. It is rumored that a hacker was able to infiltrate their network in Omaha, impersonate senior executives and send correspondence all over the company.
So there you have it, the history of PayPal's early years.
Rights Reserved, NoPayPal.com/PayPalSucks.com. Limited quoting and copying of this story is allowed, provided a link back to this page or site is prominently provided.
My nightmare began early this week. Three of my camera items were won by people without confirmed Paypal addresses. The most expensive item, a Nikon digital camera specifically stated in bold letters: I DO NOT SHIP TO UNCONFIRMED ADDRESSES. Well, this guy was a scammer and kept sending the payments through Paypal. Each time I refunded the payments until finally I set my Paypal preferences to allow me to reject payments from unconfirmed addresses. One of the other auctions shows up as paid, even though I refunded that guys Paypal payment for being unconfirmed. So I'm out my listing fees.
Then, someone hacked into my account and bid on an item. I contacted Ebay through their Live Chat and they re-set my password. Same as one of the other posters here, I'm work in the IT department of a manufacturing company, so I know what I'm doing. When I asked them how someone could have gotten into my account, they said they either guessed my password, had gotten it because I had fallen prey to a phishing scam (impossible) or gotten it from someone I know. I explained that my password was impossible to guess (it was something similar to: snvlh60f)that I know what a phishing scam is and there's no way that I would fall for it, and that no one else had my password. Then they suggested that I could have had a keystroke logger on my PC from a trojan which is not very freaking likely. Further examination of my PC revealed that there's nothing lurking there. I never stopped to think that someone hacked into Ebay and got it there. I was too angry all week.
To make matters worse, I listed the camera on Amazon.com as a seller. The first person who contacted me was a scammer who wanted me to ship the camera to Indonesia, which was a different address from the credit card, which Amazon says don't do BECAUSE THE CREDIT CARD IS STOLEN.
So the moral of the story is that the Internet, and Ebay in particular is now a sewer full of criminals. You basically can't protect yourself and it's every man for himself.
I re-listed the two cameras on Ebay with fixed Buy It Now prices and required instant payment. If someone tries to send me a Paypal payment with an unconfirmed address, it will get automatically rejected. After I'm finished with these two particular auctions, no more Ebay for me.
Ebay sucks is right. In general, I have been both a buyer and a seller. Ebay does NOT protect the seller. They allow buyers to scam you, give you negative feedback and when you need them, their customer service responds in two days with a form generated response that usually has nothing to do with the original question you asked. However, they (Ebay) makes sure to take their cut of the fees with no questions asked. I am looking for a new site. Ebay sucks for sure!!!! Heed the warning in advance and don't even get started.
Hi, If your looking for an alternative to ebay, ItchyPig limited run its own auction site www.itchypig.co.uk. Im a co-director, we have just been backed by Northampton university. Theres no final value fees and no listing fees. we make all our money from selling advertising space on the site. And check out our charities page. You will see that just by using the site you are helping charities. We actually pay our users, if you have a myspace,facebook,bebo or even your own website, we will actually pay you just to have our link on your site (£1 for every verified sign up that comes from your unique link) If you want to know more then just email me on frank@itchypig.co.uk or check out the website www.itchypig.co.uk. Oh and to add to the ebay sux theme here, they also own www.shopping.com they pay other websites to promote affiliat's products then pay the promoters 1p-10p per sale when they receive £6-£500 per sale. They are all about the money, they have changed sooo much since they started up. you should read their book "the perfect store". more like "a quick and easy way to make a load of money, with no customer care". Cheers for reading. Frank.
You actually spoke to Ebay customer support? Amazing! They intentionally do not have telephone support. I could rant for hours about the horror of Ebay and PayPal. Their policies should be illegal! Between the two of them I am out close to $5000!
It is outrageous that these two companies still exist!
I cannot wait until the day they both fall! I will throw a party to be remembered for centuries!
Well, I hate to give a positive report but I had my ebay account hacked about 8 mos ago. Whoever did it, used my account to list about 2 dozen items that all violated trademarks which the company promptly discovered and reported to ebay. I opened my ebay account page with a notice that my account was suspended for suspicious activity. I was given instructions on how to contact ebay to work out the situation.
Ebay did catch the activity and canceled the auctions before I ever contacted them. I followed the instructions they gave me, contacted their security customer service and in an "instant message" style screen worked out in real time a process to confirm my identity and get my account reinstated with a customer service rep.
The whole process took about 20 minutes and my account was reinstated. The ebay customer service rep was helpful, polite, and gave me some follow up steps to be sure that the hacker did not have access to my information.
I was pleasantly surprised that it actally worked the way it was supposed to.
Ebay was hacked and my account was frozen for fraudulent auctions for dozens of Gucci purses on my account. I called customer service and they insisted it was my fault and that I had given out my information on a spoof email or something. I'm a computer network technician and always laugh at all the spoof emails I receive for Paypal and how awful they are designed. The CSR kept telling me to read their rules on privacy before they would release my account. I never gave out my personal information and for the ebay CSR to state I did was ridiculous.
I think their system was hacked and they just never said anything about it by making people think they gave out their information. I'm surprised they didn't offer to charge their members for credit protection like the mortgage companies did when their systems were hacked.
Big companies are nothing but scammers and it looks like some CEO's are finally getting nailed for their greediness.
Ebay only gives the illusion of a having a customer service. If you have a problem, customer service just refers one to their web site. Each time you contact customer service, there is a new representative handling the question/case. There is no continuity and no one overseeing the entire case. They say they have "supervisors" but are not allowed to give out the supervisor's name or how to contact a supervisor. There is no way to speak to a live person. This is why known sellers who have numerous complaints against them can get away with continuting to sell. I'm sure this happens with bad buyers too. Unless Ebay is losing money some how, they will not get involved with any problems. No more Ebay for me. Ebay let a known abusive, lying seller by the name of Candis2 get away with her poor business practices since 1999. Now I can see why nothing has been done to stop this seller who harasses buyers with endless nasty emails. The seller is allowed to continue to sell used items as new, harass buyers when she is confronted with her lies. The seller also harassed a 12 year old child and Ebay did nothing and continues to let her sell since they make money off of her. Paypal also does not investigate cases and sides with the seller's stories thanks to being in bed with Ebay!!! Buyer beware when buying through Ebay!!!
You can lodge a complaint with FTC here:
http://www.ftc.gov/ftc/cmplanding.shtm
I also hate e bay, I had a rating of 300 when someone broke into my acct, by the way e bay security really SUCKs, they stole my e bay ID. So ebay banned me from collecting any funds or paying others I won from. My rating was 100%. This company has no phone line to call direct to a live person , unless you know the name of an employee?! How freaken stupid! E mail after e mail , e bay wants all your personal info , yea right like I am going to give these loosers my personal info. THEIR A WEB SITE for auctions. If you do you an idiot. It will only cause you more problems. Also Live help people , where did they find these 3 grade idiots, who cant help you with anything except say e mail security safe harbor. E bay and pay pal are the same! THEY BOTH SUCK. Power to the non ebayers E BAY SUCKS # 1 on my list . Peace out!
yep great siteposted on 02 dec 05 - 11:15 pm by spooky www.oztion.com.au
totally australian owned.Free to list. Post reply | Email Friend | This message is really
LODGE A COMPLAINTposted on 29 nov 05 - 3:58 pm by legalcentre to legalcentre I strongly urge all people who are experiencing problems with eBay, to lodge a complaint with their Australian State Government Consumer Authority.
Example: Consumer Affairs in Victoria, Department of Fair Trading in NSW.
I have received inside information from Consumer Affairs Victoria that it has assigned staff to investigate eBay related disputes (I WONDER WHY?).
The more people who complain the better off we will be at exposing exactly what eBay is all about. You also have an opportunity to have a dispute investigated properly, with the view to being refunded (if applicable). GOOD LUCK! Post reply | Email Friend | This message is
I called my postmaster here in Columbus and explained the situation on
Ebay. There is nothing the post office, UPS or Fed Ex can do when
people overcharge on Ebay. It's not regulated. That there should send
huge red flags up for people. I told her how Ebay has nothing in it's
rules that a seller has to mail an item the way it was paid for. She
was shocked and outraged by that. She too has dealt with sellers
overcharging on shipping. So I can't be too stupid as I've been
accused by many sellers and others if a postmaster has had the same
thing happen to her. She also hopes that the US Government and
postmaster general starts to crack down on Ebay and regulate it
because it is getting out of control. She sees multiple people in the
post office on a daily basis with complaints about mail fraud. And
there is nothing she can do for them. Why...cause Ebay is unregulated.
As stated in my previous email...if you pay a seller for priority
shipping w/ insurance they can send it to you first class mail and
pocket the difference. So Ebay at your own risk. It may only be $4.00
but if you bid on and win 20 items the difference really adds up as
you see below.
Overcharge by $3.00 x 20---$60.00
Overcharge by $4.00 x 20---$80.00
I told the postmaster that people were attempting to compare Ebay
sellers to Victoria's Secret or other catalog companies. You can't
compare and she agreed with me. Yes VS may charge you $8.00+ more for
shipping. BUT what you pay for is what you get.
What Ebay sellers are doing is this. Ebay has upped their fees. So to
make money sellers are padding their pockets by overcharging for
shipping. They have found a loophole in the system. Many buyers have
complained to Ebay for YEARS about this and Ebay does nothing and
continues to let sellers overcharge on shipping.
Once again....Ebay at your own risk.
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Am I able to file a complaint w/ the post office for mail fraud if I pay for one type of shipping and the seller sends it a cheaper way?
i saw that video that was posted on here. EBAY WAS ON TV FOR THEIR BULLSHIT!!! to report them so they are back on tv, CALL 1866 428 NEWS!!!!
www.ftc.com. report ebay to federal trade commission, people. let ftc investigate on this greedy,fraudulent company.
My biggest problem with eBay is there feedback system. It is designed to keep feedback ratings high for dishonest sellers. Why, because if you give negative feedback, you will definitly receive negative yourself, even though you may have bought, and paid on time. Sellers are able to hold your feedback in order to prevent you from posting the negative that they deserve. What would make eBay a much safer place for buyers and sellers would be to make the feedback system non-retaliatory. This could be done by hiding feedback received until feedback is given, or until the 90 days have passed and the oportunity to leave feedback has expired. This way you could leave negative, and not have to worry about your feedback being ruined. Ebay will never do this, because the way the system works now, pads their statistics to the positive, because negatives are rarely left even though they are deserved.
it's absolutely incredible to be breaking one's ass as a seller, to making money for ebay, only to have them in entire control of every aspect of the workings of the company! where is the UNION of ebay workers that should be in place!!!! what the hell is this? a business this size in any other business sector would at the very least have some kind of business representation, let alone a union, for people to be able to organize their complaints, and suggestions! I say let's unionize ebay!!!!
I have also had problems with ebay,and buyers alike. Right now my store on ebay is on vacation due to a serious illness. I did receive negative feedback due to not being on line during illness. Also I do have to say that I do sell custom designed jewelry made with natural gemstones.. I maybe the only honest seller on this site with jewelry which does make it hard to get decent prices for your products. I do believe that everyone could benefit from having ebays phone number! As a person named Sue asked on 9/7/07 at 12:32am on this blog. Well here it is Sue 1-866-322-9103.. I hope this will help all get answers.. I have also been think about closing my ebay store as I do have another site...Bye for now..
I posted on my blog on Ebay before I quit last night my issues. You should of seen the replies I got back. It was MY Fault that someone scammed me. I should of known about shipping. So I'm suppose to be a mind reader and know that the person I'm dealing with is a scam artist. I paid for priority flat rate shipping w/ insurance.....and then the seller turned around and shipped it a cheaper way with NO insurance. So you are suppose to know a seller will use this method to make themselves a few extra bucks and it's ok that they do it?
This is what's wrong with ebay. The place is full of criminals and thieves. They have NO morals.
Today I quit ebay. I got over charged for shipping....which Ebay allows sellers to do. So that was it for me.
I emailed the seller requesting a refund and she tells me that what they put on the auction as what they will use for shipping ...they can turn around and ship it another way and there is nothing you can do about it. Ebay lets them do this.
Ebay sucks!! I'm done with it. They let people rip you off. If a real store like Staples or Macy's did that....that would be fraud. But on Ebay it's ok to screw people over.
The seller who overcharged me on shipping is : critttergirl
I have also done selling on ebay and am sick of people bidding on an item, never paying or answering emails. What does Ebay do to them? Nothing!!
Ebay is a huge joke and fraud.
HI THERE JASON. CAN YOU TELL ME HOW TO JOIN IN THE SUIT AGAINST EBAY? IF THEY DONT GIVE ME MY 4000 DOLLARS ON PAYPAL THEY OWE ME I WILL SERIOUSLY JOIN IN
whoa! wow, thats a lotta hate right there. But i cant blame you. there a millions of people there they screw up every second. They manipulate people too much and tell them to register their bank accounts, credit card accounts etc and yet when something happens ( fraud for ex ) they come back and tell the members they cant do anything about it. eBay dont care. They only care about making their money!
why does ebay suck? because of the sky high fees. you have to pay for listing fees, final value fees and if they pay through paypal - paypal fees ( merchant fees ) if your item got sold for say 500 dollars- your total ebay and paypal fees would be close to 60 to 70 dollars. thats how GREEDY as a crocodile the owner and founder of this company is. i hope he and his family dies of cancer or something and realize that his billions cant do nothing about it and they deserve it cause they are the most greedy people in this world.
yup, eBay sucks. i got suspended before paypal and ebay did some "investigation" that they are doing right now. How do you do that? suspend THEN investigate? I will be signing up on ubid.com tonight. worth giving a try. ebay said i did something and they wont tell me what it was. one time i listed a recovery disc, it was an original copy. i just happened to buy a better laptop and so i decided to sell my old one. i didnt sell the recovery disc along with it because i know a cousin who would probably need the cd in teh future. anyways after a while he bought his own so i deceide to just sell the recovery disc on ebay. ebay told me it is against their plicy and removed the item. they automatically assumed it was pirated. didnt even investigate or ask me. this investigation they are doing right now where they suspend me, they took my lists out, but they already carged me for listing all those items, and yet they managed to take them out, but they demanded that "MY BALANCE IS NOW PAST DUE" but items were not bought, it was never there coz they deleted them.but yet i got to pay. one more thing that sucks about ebay is that non paying bidders have the right to leave you a feedback after NOT PAYING. how stupid. so sellers are now afraid to leave feedback to non paying bidders without fear of retaliation.but ebay stated they cannot remove those feedbacks. wow... i hope ebay falls apart someday. id be glad
It's hard to believe that any company - let alone a household name - could get away with such awful customer service. I suppose it's because it can. Have you noticed how the press has stopped singing eBay's praises?
I used to buy and sell on eBay but always avoided PayPal because it's not a bank, so the statutory protection doesn't apply. On the one occasion when I used it (accidentally - it was masked to look like the seller's own site), my credit card was hit by bogus transactions and I went through a month of hassle with my bank.
In the UK, PayPal makes a lot about "being regulated by the Financial Services Authority" but the FSA's main purpose is raising money for the government by selling operating licences. There's a whole wedge of complaints lodged against PayPal but it's still allowed to operate.
It's said that there aren't any dodgy characters selling knocked-off goods in pubs any more, they're all on eBay. There used to be bargains when eBay started and most sellers were individuals. Now, like car boot sales, it's dominated by low-end market traders that you'd shun face-to-face. When anything goes wrong, they just don't want to know.
Forget eBay, the best bargains are on the web. eBuyer, Oyyy and Insight are recommended in the UK but there are equivalents in most other countries.
All of this bad publicity about the eBay non-performance crackdown has caught the attention of the media. The power seller in this video was shut down even though her feedback was 99.3% positive. Click the link below to watch the video.
http://www.abcactionnews.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoid=1784
I was bidding on an item and ebay let out my personal info to scam artist and screwed me out of $4000 and ebay wont do a thing about it. I hope to go on the local news and let everyone in my area know that ebay is a bad excuse for a company!
I was looking for a car on eBay. 30% of cars were scam. Reported about 100 scam listings in few weeks to eBay.
Then i finally bought a 2002 Audi A4 from a "dealer" from Denver. This crook was calling himself "epgfra", then "autosepgfra", now it is "aolautos". http://myworld.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aolautos/
The car was described as "fine", no faults, etc.
When i got there - the car had bad tires, faulty power steering, some relay clicking, old oil, roof needed repainting, shock absorbers needed replacing. How i suppose to drive that kind of car from Denver to Seattle?
I refused to buy it. "Dealer" never bothered to return my $1000 deposit - he was saying i am a scam artist - i will not get anything.
I contacted eBay (misrepresentation and not returning deposit), eBay said to talk to the bank. I contacted the bank - bank returned my deposit at once, but after 2 months of processing they took it back saying that in one email "dealer" said it will refund me $800 - they did not care that "dealer" never did that.
So both bank and ebay have fraud protection - but neither of them are interested in solving this case.
I contaced eBay recently - they are saying that now they can not help - cause I had 35 days to solve it...
EBAY SUCKS - i am using http://expo.live.com/ now, and shopping only locally.
hummmm.... You may be on to something Mike, same thing happened to me... I'm being evicted from my apartment because of this whole eBay suspension crap. No warning, no nothing, now I can't pay my bills.
Just a heads up to all you who would like to continue selling on Ebay. A couple month ago I used their online support which proved to be totally worthless. I then received an online questionair regarding my experience with using their online support. I was brutally honest in answering their 'confidential' questions. The next day I received a 2 week suspension from Ebay and they would not answer my emails in inquiring as to why I was suspended. I think it obvious why I was suspended. All they want to hear is how wonderful eBay is. Any other response results in suspension!!!
Hi,
I got similar shit with eBay.
I put a link to my webstore in my ads.
They wont allow that.
I removed the links.
I had about 70 ads online and forgot to remove 4 links.
They deactivated ALL my ads.
On most of them there were placed bids, say about 3000 euro.
So when the cancelled my ads they cancelled 3k on income.
I had a bill to pay from 1800 euro ( for previous ads ).
I mailed them that it is outragious to cancel all my ads and that I'm not going to pay for their so called service.
First my ads back online and than the payment.
This is a yes/no game up to now ( 23-10-07 ).
I quitted everything on eBay cause they suck bigtime !
Ok, I'm not allowed to put in links, but to cancel all my ads and dump 3k on income snifs like piracy !!!
I got a good lawer and said to them see you in court.
Let's see who's got the biggest mouth here !
Their policy sucks, they are like dealers, keep your customers hooked up to your site and give them any restriction you like.., this is online dictatorship and I'm not into that.
So spread the word ; EBAY SUCKS !!!
They earn about 4 billion each month and their customer service is a horror !
I know why they are not reachable by phone...
With such a service it must drive their customer service mad.
Well, sorry for my bad English, I'm a Dutchman.
I wish you al the best.
With regards !
Cheers,
Florian from MoFli recordings.
Oh no you got me started on ebay! Yes they suck, I have a feedback rating of over 500 and power seller status, yet I hate eBay. Their policies are absolutely insane! As a seller I have no protection, I spend so much time wasted because of them. And yes customer service is WORTHLESS!
Anyone can sign up for eBay no ID no proof of anything accept access to the internet. Can I require minimum feedback ratings for buyers? No.
Buy it now goes away unless you put a reserve on the auction. Reserves have proven completely counter productive.
Here's a question, I'm selling a truck I put buy it now of $1995 on the truck. Exacly why in the %#@@ would my buy it now option that I paid extra for go away at the first .99 cent bid?
Why by adding a second column so people can find it better do my fees double? How in the world did eBay come up with the fee structures? I'm guessing it had something to do with a monkey and a dart board.
Yes eBay sucks I really wish eBay had some real competition.
I have been a Ebay seller for years. A few non-paying bidders leave me retaliatory negative feedback, so now I'm suspended from Ebay for life... I am now "no longer a registered user" and am prohibited from using any other selling accounts "ever",(JUST TRY IT, THEY'LL SHUT YOU DOWN IMMEDIATELY) even though my feedback was 98.9 percent and all my paying customers were fully satisfied. Ebay user I.D. WholeSaleWorldStore has a lousy 95.1 percent rating, negative feedback all over the place, all you see is negative feedback, but Ebay has done nothing to stop them... Clearly they must have friends or family that work at Ebay that are looking the other direction. My attorney will be pointing this out to the jury when the lawsuit starts for unfair business practice. Anybody else want in, just let me know... EBAY SUCKS!!!!!
UPDATE: Ebay seller I.D. WholeSaleWorldStore is now doing business using a different user I.D. called WholeSaleHeavenStore. And, guess where they are located? California, of course, HOME of Ebay Headquarters. I said it before, and I'll say it again,
this seller( WholeSaleHeavenStore, formerly known as WholeSaleWorldStore)clearly must have friends or family that work at Ebay that are looking the other direction. My attorney will be pointing this out to the jury when the lawsuit starts for unfair business practice. I know of several lawsuits going against Ebay right now, and I just hope to God the plaintiffs READ this, because Ebay has been pulling the wool over peoples eyes for years, and it is time for it to STOP!!!!!!!
Yours Truly, EBAY SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How do you like this one? After nearly ten years as an eBay seller, I was in the hospital last summer for a prolonged period of time, and no one else in the family had any idea how to handle my account. Some of my customers left negative feedback, even though, for the most part, they had been refunded their money either through Paypal or by me after I was discharged from the hospital. All of a sudden, I found myself suspended. No amount of explaining to eBay was sufficient for them to reinstate me. Having medical bills to pay and prescriptions to pay for, and having invested thousands in items to sell on eBay, I even offered to share my hospital bills with them as proof that I was indeed in the hospital, but I have now received an "indefinite" suspension. My son has also been suspended from buying or selling on eBay. Now, like so many of you, I have money sitting in my Paypal account, with no means of withdrawing it. I just don't understand how they get away with this. If they keep it up, all the good sellers will be relocating to other auction sites, and eventually, the buyers will be going there, as well. Check out the following auction sites, folks: ubid.com, ziing.com, and auctionfire.com, and give our business to the outfits that still value their sellers AND their buyers. I personally have signed up with auctionfire.com, and I am advising all of my customers that I will be posting auctions on that site from now on. If enough of us do that, eBay may not be put out of business, but they might find themselves hurting at least a little. Worth a try, don't you think? By the way, through all of this, even with the negative feedback, my profile never went below 99.1%!
I AM CURRENTLY A EBAY POWER SELLER, AND I HATE EBAY.
Ebay is horrible for buyers and sellers!
Sellers have to complete with stolen goods (have to sell at hot prices), pay ebay listing fees, selling fees, paypal fees, buyer fraud and much more. Horrible place to sell anything! (FBI estimates that 40% of all ebay items are stolen, and ebay is officially the biggest fence on the planet).
Buyers have to worry about purchasing stolen goods, getting ripped off from sellers who set up accounts only to rip people of and from accounts that where hacked. Customer service for the goods you bought? 99.99% there is none. You stuck like chuck.
I HATE EBAY!!!!!!!!!
I was new to E Bay and purchased an item from E-Powersellers.com Inc in Albany OR...
the seller never responded to my e-mails after I had placed a bid and when I "won" the item they wouldn't respond to a couple of simple questions about shipping and associated costs.
Two weeks later I mailed a money order without having heard from the seller and while the MO was in transit, E-Powersellers.com Inc filed a greivance against me for non-payment and posted insulting comments calling me a "fraud" and "deadbeat" ... they then sold my item to another bidder. Because I did not use PayPal (E Bays other commercial interest) I had no recourse through E Bay to challenge the seller. This all transpired with a few weeks of the sale. E Bay is a hostile forum for buyers. The customer service is non-existent and unscrupulous sellers hide anonymously behind user-names where they can behave with arrogance and impunity. Never again. E Bay truly sucks. Can't someone please shut them down?
i am brand new to ebay and set up to sellers account and listed a couple of things to sell and then i started to get bids on my stuff and one of my items had a couple of people that kept out bidding each other then i get this email saying that my listing had been cancelled because of shill bidding and listed some user names that i don't even know who theses people are and i had no way to fight it then i had to wait 14 day and take some stupid thing about shill bidding so i did then a week later they suppended my account for some other person account not being paid.i have emailed them about this but you know them they get back to you whenever they want too.on top of it they still want me to pay .85 cents for the listing that they stopped and i didn't get to sell.so to me they are trying to rip me off i wonder how many others they have done this too.
Did you see what E-bay is chargeing now for transations?.. Robbery,.. and It has turned into the suckers store.. more crap with buyer beware i've ever seen and there action has taken me up to 3 weeks to get a responce. If you have noticed ,. ebay has all inqureie's blocked and locked any serach and there you are Ebay.. I would love to go to another site.. I have 100% feed-back. and am sick of e-bay..
e bay has ruined the antiques market in many ways.I collect and treasure fine antiques.My original intention was to sell on e bay but a bunch of yahoos(pardon the expression)sell or give away items for a fraction of their worth.Amazon sucks too.I just hate the fact that you cant even get what something is worth.Antique lovers will most defifintely agree with me.I cant help but think these people have no clue about real value or beauty only making a buck.How can a newcomer hope to get started in the already fickle world of antiques and collectibles?I posted my items for very reasonable prices and i got no response.Why would someone pay more when some shmuck will practically give it away.I know others must feel this way too.Im using a real auction house for my sales.I refuse to give my items away for nothing.BTW Amazon screwed me too.I signed up for premium service(a joke)and never even got any response at all on my items.They also never debited my account until 3 weeks later when i wasnt expecting it.People say e bay is great I think it sucks for people like me who really love and appreciate fine and beautiful things
Yeah, EBAY SUCKS!!! My sales on eBay are not near as good as they were two years ago, combined with they're high outrageous listing fees I can no longer make a profit.. Adios eBay, I'm starting my own website, that seems to be the new trend among former eBay sellers.. Bargainland.net started they're own website and they have no shortage of customers.. I really do believe eBay had better get some new management in a hurry because somethings not right over there.. Sellers that have been there for years are dropping like flies, and buyers are leaving in droves. Since a lot of buyers are repeat customers, when the seller leaves, so does the buyer, and this hurts all the other eBay sellers as well. I believe eBay management needs to take responsibility for it's own greedy actions and stop blaiming the sellers for all it's problems. Yeah EBAY SUCKS, but that's there problem,hahaha... I can't make a profit there anymore anyway, so screw 'um... By the way, a lot of my competitors have started selling on Amazon.com and it looks like they're doing real good, kinda like eBay was back in the good ol' days.. I don't know what they're selling requirements are, but i may be selling on there real soon.. Good luck to everyone, don't let eBay ruin your day, there are other good ways to sell besides eBay... TAKE CARE!!!
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CHILL OUT
THOUGHT I WAS THERE IF SO I WOULD HAVE NO ?
This is the 2nd time this has happened: I spend a month preparing several items for sale; photographs, texts and research. I post the offerings on ebay. Several people respond. There is only one day left in my auction so I take further photos and prepare to respond to my potential buyers. Then my account goes dead! "My eBay" is no longer mine. I assume there is a mistake in my log-in information. I email customer "support." The automated reply states that the matter will be addressed within 24 hours, or maybe 36 hours, but for sure within 72 hours. Meanwhile my funds paid to eBay (via their partners in crime...Pay Pal) are gobbled, and the folks who have trusted my offerings are kissed-off without an explanation. eBay is an evil entity. Is there no way for us to take them on collectively and stop their greed and averice?
I'm coming back with a HUGE post on eBay but for now chew on this.
Paypal will NOT under any situation give a refund for anything unless it's "Did not receive". They will give you options like: fraudulent item, damaged item, didn't receive everything, and the like but in reality they will only give you a refund if you didn't receive an item that didn't have a tracking number on it. You can complain to a supervisor and if it's a known bad seller like Bargainland OR your account is in really good standing, they will give you a COURTESY CREDIT. You are NOT protected by eBay or Paypal.
So if as a buyer you purchased something but then get the heebeejeebees after the fact (like going to the the sellers account and all of a sudden seeing many bad comments like received fake or broken items with no seller resolution) and then you don't want to pay until the seller contacts you but you can not reach the seller -- eBay doesn't care if you get scammed. You are to pay now, suffer later -- account potentially blocked if you went and bought a lot of things through said seller. That's all there is to it.
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From Paypal:
"We regret to inform you that we were unable to resolve this case because the claim was incomplete, filed incorrectly, or outside the bounds of coverage as defined in our User Agreement. No action has been taken at this time."
So I asked why and they responded with:
"PayPal will investigate your claim, contact the seller and, if the seller does not present appropriate proof of delivery, a full refund or other evidence of a satisfactory resolution, PayPal will seek to collect the amount you paid from the seller. Unfortunately, recovery of the full dollar amount is not guaranteed."
and...
"PayPal Buyer Protection reimburses buyers for transactions where an item was purchased on eBay and not received."
And finally on missing items from a package
"Our investigation into your claim is complete. As stated in our User Agreement, the claims process only applies to the shipment of goods. It does not apply to complaints about the attributes or quality of goods received. Therefore, we are unable to reverse this transaction or issue a refund."
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So basically if something is missing out of your order there isn't anything you can do about it. But as I said earlier, I escalated to a supervisor and got my much deserved money back!
Also if you fail to fill out the form properly the first time (like select the wrong category) there are NO SECOND CHANCES -- bizarro!
Oh my God does ebay suck! I find it the most irritating thing I have ever done. It is simply the most un-user friendly site ever. I don't want to take a course to learn the software and its shortfalls. Oh please make it go away.
does anybody know of a lawyer who is working on any cases against ebay for sellers?
I think they are racist, unreasonable, freaks of power and etc. . I am suspended for life after joining a month. All I did is ask around the forums, live help, and customer services. Ironically they answered me WRONG. I got the RIGHT answers after making real phone calls to institutions
Is that eBay seller non-performance crackdown still continuing, I'm not hearing as much about it lately??
update to the posting 2 down re: selling our home on ebay....ebay sent us a VERY condescending email shortly after I posted my complaint on this website (hmmmmm...) stating that ebay was "much like a newspaper ad" and we were not really entitled to a refund but they (what big hearts) would "just this once" give us a credit.
Ok ebay you (expeletive deleted)......what newspaper ad can have a random reader arbitrarily cancel an ad for no reason and then charge me full price even though I paid for 30 days and my ad ran for only 2????
ebay has hired incomprehensible drones for customer service in the interest of the bottom line. ...and this will be the death of ebay.....unable to think rationally these offshore automatons simply rattle off orders and anything not fitting in to their basic directives will be disregarded.
I would guess ebay compensates this offshore call centre based on "resolved accounts" or the like.....incenting the call centre manager to create an army of tyrants rather than anyone who actually gives a ( ) about clients.
ebay, hire at bare minimum a qualified director who can guide your agents...you have lost control.
A few non-paying bidders leave me retaliatory negative feedback, so now I'm suspended from Ebay for life... I am now "no longer a registered user" and am prohibited from using any other selling accounts "ever", even though my feedback was 98.9 percent and all my paying customers were fully satisfied. Ebay user I.D. WholesaleWorldStore has a lousy 95.1 percent rating, negative feedback all over the place, all you see is negative feedback, but Ebay has done nothing to stop them... Clearly they must have friends or family that work at Ebay that are looking the other direction. My attorney will be pointing this out to the jury when the lawsuit starts for unfair business practice. Anybody else want in, just let me know... EBAY SUCKS!!!!!
We are 7 year veteran e-bayers....recently we listed our home for sale on ebay. We mistakenly placed a "buy it now" button and contacted CX service within 10 minutes and asked if we could change it. They said no way.....we were out of luck.
2 days later someone clicked the buy it now button "by mistake" and emails us saying "sorry I screwed up"
We emailed ebay support including this email stating he had no intention to buy. Their position is they refuse to issue a refund ($150) or relist our item. So we paid full listing price for a 2 day auction and because it is real estate we cant apply for a refund of fees. Enjoy my $150 hard earned dollars ebay.
To many non payers fees are to hi plus Paypal fees
DAMN, ALL THESE HORROR STORIES, CAN'T SOMEONE DO SOMETHING....HOW DO YOU GET THIS TO DATELINE. ALL OF US COULD TELL OUR STORIES AND GET THEM THE PUBLICITY THEY DESERVE. SOMEONE P L E A S E HELP US.
THEY REALLY DO SUCK....AND GUESS WHAT I JUST FOUND OUT....IF YOU PURCHASE AN ITEM, AND THE SELLER DOESN'T SEND IT, POOR EBAY, THERE IS NOTHING THEY CAN DO ABOUT IT. GEE, I WONDER WHY THEY DON'T MENTION THIS IN ALL THE ADVERTISING THEY DO. MAYBE THEY REALLY DON'T WANT US TO KNOW THAT PART.
Did you know what you list for sale may not show up for hours afterwards? I listed 2 items. Went back in hours later and searched for these items, and even went through the Buy link and sorted down through the categories and still did not find them. So, I ended the items thinking there must be some kind of glitch with the listings. I take a look at my account to see if the fees might be credited back. NOPE. So I go to contact Ebay and find out they only index the listings several times a day. Talk about not getting your monies worth. I've sold quite a few items and never noticed this problem before. I won't sell on Ebay again. And, after reading the stories on here I'm sure they won't refund the listing fees. When it comes to Ebay it's Buyer AND Seller beware.
bought a samsung bluetooth headset at powerseller without gettin an invoice. received many messages it could be a fake. contacted ebay. ebay immediatly deleted article to prevent my negative feedback. after 200 transactions it' all over now, ebay-suckers
Thank you Bludot for the tip on onlineauction.com I just visited the site and I might be listing all my auctions there from now on. I love the fact that I can also put a link to my web site on the auction listings - that is a big NO, NO at eBay. Bye-bye eBay, hello to freedom!!!!
I have been a seller on eBay since 1999 and I do believe that eBay is going down the tubes. Today I think was the last straw for me with eBay. I was sent an email by them saying I was suspended for shilling! For the past 2 month I only had only been selling items with a "buy it now" option, no auctions. Tell me how in the world could I shill on a buy it now? Has eBay gone mad? They cancelled all my Buy it Now listing (a whooping 7!) and have not answered my emails. I did talk to live help and he said he couldn't see why it happened but he couldn't reverse it, I had to email them instead.
Of course they were hacked 2 days ago and they (eBay) covered up that one real quick. The story is on auctionbytes, just do a search for "ebay hacked" "september 25th".
I signed up for an eBay account only recently (I know, I know, I was probably the last guy on earth to watch E.T., 20 years later). Then I searched for a photography book, had questions about whether the book had 2 specific pics that I was looking for, so I emailed the seller to ask. 2 hours later, eBay tells me my account has been suspended -- after countless emails back and forth, I still have no idea what I did wrong and they have not given me an example of what conduct of mine violated the user agreement. My 2 hour lifespan on eBay was short, but still sucked.
I agree, eBay does suck. I've had SEVERAL problems with them. Recently they accused me of shill bidding. They have no proof because it didn't happen. Just happens that the person that bid and WON, mind you, on two of my auctions has my same last name and lives in the same state I do. Approx. an hour away from me. Also, the same last name, yes, it is the same but that is my MARRIED name. eBay really does suck and I left them due to this problem. I've also been defrauded through eBay and they never helped me in any way. Which I think is ridiculous. They could make their site safer, they just choose not to. Thanks for letting me vent a little. Good luck. G.
ok, here is why I think EBay sucks..they allow so much fake merchandise on their site it is sickening. Fake designer clothes, jewelry, bags..you name it..it's on there. The latest fad is the Anya Hindmarch "I'm Not a Plastic Bag." Of the 30 bags that I looked at on Ebay 29..were fake! Ebay says they are a middleman and not responsible....oh yea! well they are taking those fees and making money off of pirated products..those knock-offs are made by slave and child labor. Tiffany's is finally suing Ebay over copyright infringement..so much jewelry advertised as Tiffany's is not...I hope they win and force Ebay to clean up it's act or shut it down!
Vic here again
Now it is starting all over again this now makes seven (7)times, I emailed them and all they can say is you can close your account, the seller and I agreed to cancel on the first order to cancel the purchase and now eBay says a dispute exists for the seventh time, are these people STUPID or what, don,t they understand english? what a bunch of pricks!!!
Vic
PS: "To eBay I am not afraid to say my name"
Come on guys, get on the ball, this mess is not my fault, the seller is sick of this, and I am sick of this!!! I will close my account if you do not get off your rears and STOP THIS harassment.
Your ad (for the seller) stated Pay Pal Preferred NOT, Pay Pal ONLY, if said Pay Pal only I would not be wasting my time talking to a wall right now (again), how many times do I have tell you people????????? I DO NOT BID ON PAY PAL ONLY.
The ad stated Pay Pal Preferred, that allows one to pay with a money order just click through the steps and it is plainly visible.
I did so as I have done on other items that you have collected your commission.
This attempted purchase resulted in a Pay Pal dead end without a mailing address to the seller.
After contacting the seller he tried to fix it, and answered me “oh I see what you mean” it was supposed to be FIXED but WAS NOT so my next attempt failed again, the seller re did the ad with the help of your teck support, the message from the seller to me said "try again I WILL IGNORE THE FIRST PURCHASE".
The next attempt I stumbled and it didn’t seem to work properly so I tried again resulting in an extra unwanted purchase.
NOW COMES THE GOOD PART and please listen VERY carefully because I would not want to go OVER YOU HEAD!!!!!
Three separate purchase cancellations have now taken place, Oh mind you not all at once, even though the SELLER said he canceled the order.
Three separate cancellations not all at once becoming a nuisance to myself and your seller.
So now one would think that this BS is over BUT NO!!!
Now IT IS SHOWING UP AS ANOTHWER PURCHASE, come on guys the mistake occurred THREE times, OK it’s a given the seller canceled three times, I canceled three times and now It is showing up as a new purchase AGAIN WHY WHY WHY?
OH BOY so much for you commission what is it 3%? Of $9.99 cents a grand total of 30 cents, I hope you are happy.
Vic
I have listed items on and off for the past several years with mostly good experiences, but my recent experience has soured me on both eBay and PayPal to the point where I have sold my eBay stock because I truly believe their customer assitant advisors are doing everything they can to sink the company.
I recently sold two items that were paid for via PayPay, which is fine except that eBay routed the payments to a long-closed email address, and now my payments are in purgatory somewhere.
I contacted eBay twice and received the same canned response both times. They suggested that I contact PayPal or have the buyer resend the payment. Not wanting to inconvenience my customers, I contacted PayPal. After 30 minutes on the phone, they advised that I should contact eBay or have the customer resend the payment. Customer assitance did nothing to resolve the issue. Rather, they pushed the problem (that was originally caused by their system) back on me. Not only that, but now I was stuck in a game of ping-pong where eBay was telling me to contact PayPal and PayPal was telling me to contact eBay.
Now I understand why so many people are fed up with this company. I've never experienced worse customer assistance in my life. Thiniking about selling on eBay or signing up for a PayPal account? Run, don't walk, from your computer keyboard!
Is Ebay a racial site ?
Maybe you don't care about my story, maybe you do, but at least hear me out.
I have been doing business for over 19 years. I have my own leather workshop in South Africa, the picturesque village of Darling, located in the Western Cape.
Recently, after some advise of friends, i've tried to take my first steps selling on the internet. Making our own site etc etc etc. Now since we are making our own products, i was thinking about selling internationally - so Ebay was the name that popped out immediately. Hurah for me, Ebay had a .co.za internetsite, meaning that it was accessible for South Africans. Strangely, we got linked through to the American site. Anyway - this is where it all started.
For some magical reason, we could not apply for a business account - so we went with the flow and made a individual account. Then we had to go trough a bunch of security features, including entering our creditcard details etc etc etc ... We didn't mind because it was Ebay, so it was safe. We even opened a Paypal account, same thing, security features all over the place (costing money offcourse) but we all got it right. We start placing our first products on Ebay and not even 24 hours later, our account gets suspended. We receive an email from Ebay, stating that their section 9 or whatever allows them to cancel any account for any reason what so ever if they seem fit to. Unfortunately for us, we still have to pay for the adds we placed online, now deleted by Ebay (amount of 26.20 dollars) We did get the option to appeal to this decision - which we did. Know that at this stage, we hadn't sold a thing, but it was already costing us 26.20 dollars. After 3 days, we get a reaction back that we need to fax all of our details to the head office, for verification purposes. We comply, sending them faxes of my ID, drivers license, utility bills, credit card, ... and all of this TWICE, since their was a hitch with the first fax. Ebay claims that they handle every appeal within 72 hours ... well ... after 2 weeks we received our FIRST email from them, stating that they had received our fax and that the 72 hours started then. In meanwhile, the 26 dollars gets deducted from our creditcard and we are still left with a blocked account. Although we think that their section 9 allows them to do whatever they want - we still complied with all of the requests. Now yesterday, halleluja, we get message that our account is back active again. They apologize for the fact that we have to restart with everything and that we had to pay for the deleted adds, but we still took an understanding position. Glad that we were once again able to reach an international community with our products, we start placing advertisements online, using every possible Ebay-site we have (that is why Ebay claims to be such a strong site ... you can reach customers all over the world). So today we placed over 120 advertisements online, offering people all over the world our products, mounting our account to almost 60 dollars on placingfees alone ... Just 1 hour ago, we received again an email from Ebay ... your account has been suspended, all your adds have been deleted, you still have to pay for this. So correct me if im wrong, but this sounds VERY VERY unfair, even "scam-a-like" to me. The reason they are giving now is "security" and if you read between the lines ... they don't really like the fact that we are advertising from our country. So if we break everything down to pure logic - Ebay is nothing more than a racial, borderline criminal site. They don't seem to get the idea that South Africa is NOT Nigeria, they give the impression that they don't like ANY "Africans" for that matter, but they still can keep on charging our creditcard for services simply never received. And unfortunately, since our account has been suspended, we cannot "undo" or "delete" our creditcarddetails from their site, so they can do pretty much whatever they want now. It is just ridiculous that a site like Ebay, always preaching about security this and scam that, lowers himself to such techniques, masking it with geographical bullshit by stealing our money. We are your average commerce people, we work for a living, we don't like it neither that people associate South Africa with Nigeria (no offense to these people ofcourse, but one cannot deny that Lagos is the cyberfraud capital of the world) not realising that there is a difference of about 5000km between us, but since when has that become a reason to simply go and plunder somebodies account ???
So this is my story, even if you don't care, at least you are once again aware of the fact that ignorance still hasn't been destroyed.
hi susan, forget about thoese e-books that show you how to get back to ebay, they are crap, once you paid, and you would find out that they use pages to explain to you the pro or cons by using hotmail as ebay registered email... blah blah blah...
If your a Ebay seller that has been wrongly suspended for seller non-performance, then this will make you sick. This seller has horrible feedback, but he still gets to sell, and I don't. I don't understand??????? LOOK AT THIS CRAP, MY FEEDBACK IS NOT NEAR AS BAD AS THIS SELLERS, BUT I'M SUSPENDED, AND THEIR NOT!! I'M MAD AS HELL, GET ME AN ATTORNEY!!!!!!
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=wholesaleworldstore&ftab=AllFeedback
Has anyone tried the 'get back on eBay' unsuspendable account stuff like Auction again or Ebay replay? Does it work or is it a waste of cash? I have just had my power seller status revoked and my account restricted to BIN sales only. I was wrongly accused of breaches of policy - I still don't know what I did! I think they're gonna kick me off and, like Shabaz, I will lose all my hard earned contacts (I have a feedback score of over 3000) and I will be stuck with over £1000 worth of stock which I won't be able to sell! Help!!!
(Product Name: Service termination through Slander and libel) ebay terminated my user account 9700wirelessgalaxy through a claim that I was abusing their user policy. When I appealed, they claimed that "they verified that I did abuse their policy but could not tell me what it was" and will not fix my account. I have lost my contacts on ebay that I had built over a period of 3 years with good conduct and service. The lible and slander claim by ebay has caused me to lose my reputation with my contacts and has caused my great harm through distress and monetory loss. I use the account to conduct business. I need the account fixed and my reputation restored.
ebay and paypal charge extremely high fees but do nothing for sellers. their customer service are completely idiots, only know copy and paste their so-called policies, but never address to specific problems. most policies are in favor of buyers. sellers even dare not leave negative feedbacks to bad buyers. and seller would need to pay $30 for each item to get negative feedbacks removed. sucks!!! sucks!!! sucks!!!!
A couple of weeks ago I was the victim of a fraud as a result of which, with eBay’s compliance, my business was devastated. My account was allegedly involved in shill bidding although eBay refuse to give details of the item involved and I can't investigate myself because eBay removed all my listings (175 of them) including 45 Buy it Now items effectively removing all evidence with which I might have mounted a defence- the total cost of the listing fees came to over £90 which eBay still expects me to pay as well as standing the loss of the bids placed and the loss of my customer’s confidence. There was no right of appeal and no consultation - eBay acts as God in these cases! I contacted customer services to complain as I was informed by e-mail that I would still be able to list BIN items but these had been removed also and eBay now expects me to pay again for their re-insertion. Predictably, all I could get was the same message repeated by different members of their customer (non)services team - quite understandably I gave up!
It seems that eBay’s trust and safety policy is so heavily weighted against the seller as to be totally useless as a mechanism for protecting their interests. It must be pointed out that without the seller there would be nothing for the buyer to buy so our interests must be considered just as important - after all, eBay makes its money out of US!! This brings me neatly to my point! I am now being threatened with the removal of my power seller status because I have not made them enough money this month. Well, for the reason behind that they should look to their own behaviour in this matter instead of bleating to me about it - I have suffered enough already in both financial loss and emotional distress at their hands. If eBay put as much effort into proper investigation of these events as they do into persecuting innocent traders and, instead of taking arbitrary actions, they had proper consultation with the trader involved it would be fairer all round. Incidentally, a member who joined eBay just a few days before this incident and who bid on, and won, several of my items but did not pay has been kicked off eBay - a coincidence? I think not!
I have had so much trouble from Ebay and Paypal, it makes me so angry. With paypal atleast I can give them a ring and sort it out. Does Ebay not have a phone number? I'm currently having trouble with them, all they want is to take money and not offer any good service at all!!!
eebay just sent me a message that they sent out an automatic monthly seller fee payment method was declined, only to find out they made an error or incorrect email garbage B.S, and then threatened to obtain assistance from collection service to obtain my seler fees...F--- U ebay, scumbag piece of S--t...1st u screw up, and then next threaten me with stupid crap...and i'm not too proud to announce the D-mn eebay fees are so high that I'm struggling to put quality food on the table, thank u F---ing eebay.
I started selling on Feebay about 5 years ago, and in the beginning I did ok. Then, the fee's started going up. Painpal fee's started going up. Feebay store fee's started going up. It finally came to a point where the Green eyed monster known as Ebay Inc. was making more money than me. Yet they do none of the work, only host a site. Then they have these know nothing rookies scrutinizing everything you list and will pull your listing for bulls***t reasons. One of my listings was pulled for being something it was not, the person did not even know what the item was. It was an ameteur radio amplifier and they told me it was something to do with television transmission and some kind of VRO b.s. I finally went and got all the data for the item and put it in my listing and told ebay in the listing to take notice. They let it run and it finally sold. I am so tired of their crap that I have set up my own auction site and intend to leave them in their own misery. If anyone wants to list there, simply go to: www.trizek.com and click on auctions at the top of the page. I plan to let all listings go for free for the first year, then I will have to charge a small fee to keep the host alive. In the interim, I will pay for it out of pocket. Hopefully, it will kick ebay's butt! You can rest assured, it will NEVER be the butthead site that ebay is!
yes, ebay will do nothing helpful so that you can become easily f---ed both ways, as a seller they take too go---mn much of a cut of the sales, same as "painpal", and as a buyer if the item you receive sucks, then tough sh-t, you're stuck with being ripped off with that piece of sh-t.
ebay sucks!! In my opinion.
I tried it out the other day, and wanted to sell something for 10 dollars, I added 4 items, sold none, my loss 5.00.
Also If I want to sell something for $1.00 plus $4.60 shipping. I end up having to to pay ebay fees and paypal fees!! arent they both the same company, cant they just charge one time. So in order to be able to pay shipping and not loose money, you have to charge more than what you really are selling the item.... and items are not worth the fees.
Anywho I rather start my own website and just pay, the merchant fees. I hope someone else starts a similar site, with much small fees. I will be the first to sign up.
Ebay has finally constructed a method to get sellers to lower their shipping fees and raise their prices! Sellers used to charge high shipping and low prices to avoid listing fees but with the new detailed feedback ( why else would shipping and handling fees be included in a rating scheme)? this is greatly discouraged. The amusing part of it all is that the dumb buyers put stock in the detailed feedback feeding a perfect example of greed!!!! They operate like a black market ebay does, like a corperate maffia, impossible to find, reason with those jagoffs. Selling sucks now take your five stars and shove them up your poopers.... You do a fair, fast and honest job almost losing money and some imbecile gives you four stars because described excellent or nearmint cards or books werent perfect mint, items werent shipped next day for free etc. yet sellers w a 1000 negatives overgraders aholes etc have perfect ratings cumon its easy to have a friend buy and vote all 5 stars. As for paypal you can remove them and eat the stars. People, stop buying and selling and see how fast the detailed feedback disappears. hush hush ...ebay its like a top secret organization alas poor souls keep putting money into their wallets because there is no other option. So keep listing your items and losing money dummies..........
ebay Item # 280134330090. Buyer is a scammer. He disputed Paypal. His reason is 'fake sunglasses' because it was made in china. He bullsh** that Nike only make sunglasses in Italy. He wants me to send my invoice (from distributor) + a certification of authenticity. I emailed Paypal. I told Paypal he's a piece of sh**. Just return the sunglasses back & i refund it. Give my sunglases back and here is your fuc*ing money. Have a nice life, sucker. Well, this is how paypal responded. Paypal issued a full refund back into his account. He does not even send my sunglasses back. This is the second time Paypal screwed me good.
Paypal = stupid.
FYI:Nike do not make sunglases. They have some other mfgs do it. Most Nike sunglasses are from Flexon. some are made in Italy, some are in Japan, some are in China. The most expensive models are from Italy.
please excuse my language, i'm mad as hell
On labor day or just after there is a new auction site www.kickedoffebay.com . Come list your auctions and help put ebay out of business.
Hi,
Im new here, this forum is kind of cool to give feedback on services.
I just want to say after i read most of the posts here, that i bought from troydes and i got my account.
I bought a 30days old 10+ last week, I got it yesterday. It took them around 6 or 7 days to send it to me. (Which is not so bad in my opinion LOL).
I also want to say that i emailed them about an issue I had and it usually takes them 1 to 2 days for answers..
I will also post back here in a couple of weeks, coz im buying a 20+ feedback from them Ill keep you updated about it.
I don't know what's going on with FIREMEG.COM, but "Meg's" doing GREAT, she's living "high on the hog"! I just found this picture of her (See Link Below), and wanted to share it with everybody, ain't she pretty? She looks a little like the Quaker Oats Dude (My opinion), sorry, if your fixing to eat breakfast. As far as I know Bargain' was never suspended, but possibly restricted. I have nothing against "Bargain'", but if Ebay is going to suspend sellers, the least they can do is be fair about it. Ebay is raking in huge fees from Bargain', so they're probably only temporarily restricting them, and "suspending" the "little guy". That's what it seems to me like. Enjoy the pic!
http://www.asktheebayqueen.com/
Does anyone know whats going on with FIREMEG.COM? There hasn't been any new postings since July.
fyi, Bargainland was suspended for seller non-performance, but have since been reinstated. I read a lot of their negatives and it sounds like most of the buyers need to do a better job reading the descriptions. Their suspension must have put several families in a hardship. Don't forget that negatives, neutrals, and item disputes count against sellers. Detailed Seller Ratings are soon going to also count against sellers. eBay WILL NOT tell sellers what their performance rating is and there is no way for sellers to calculate it. I asked my eBay "Top Seller Accountant" and she doesn't even know. eBay also gives no warning to sellers, they just give you the boot then tell you that you need to improve and limit the amount of items you can list. I've been selling on eBay for over 8 years full time. My fb rating will hit 10,000 in the next couple months. I'm at 99.4% with nearly all of my negs as retaliation from non-paying deadbeats. I pay well over $1,000 a month in fees, over $1,500 including Paypal. If eBay ended my 3,000 items in my store it would cause my family a severe hardship. Bills and rent wouldn't get paid. I would never do business with them again. I can't live on the edge never knowing if eBay is going to "fire" me. I wanted to "be my own boss" not have a bunch of overpaid 20 somethings bossing me around. Those 20 somethings running eBay look at us as lowely flea market vendors. Google has starting advertising their Checkout on commercials with Buy.com. It is the beginning of what will be Google Auctions. I CAN'T WAIT!!!
I am a power seller 99.9% and one of the first invited on to ebay express and am being treated like a complete tramp by ebays customer service nine months of weekly harressment if they had a phyisical office I would have stormed it long ago they have restristed my account to 170 listings a week I have one negative in the last two years they claim this is to stop fraudulent items being sold I have sold over 15,000 items and no-one has ever claimed that I sold they a fake item but yet another ebayer who also sells dvds and has received over 1,000 negatives in the last 6 months alone (a lot of them for selling fakes has no restrictions on his account I have offered the alledged customer support full proof of all items being legitimate and have been totally ignored by them
Re: Joe
Bargain account only have about 0.06% of buyer of complains. So he does not fall under the seller non-performance. You have add the negative and the neutral feedbacks and divided all his feedbacks in the last 6 months and you will know your percentage. It sucks...........same thing happened to me...I am now trying to save my account.........eBay sucks!!
O.K.
Heres a good one, if you have a good product that sells well but you hate ebay. Use another auction site like tazbar. If your item is any good people will eventually come to you. remember ebay had to start somewhere.
Now ebay have gotten far too big for there own boots, use another site and stick it out.
ebay will really feel the pinch if we all muck in.
Also, slag off ebay as often as you can, either to your friends or even slag them off when your on the bus or train, make sure others hear your bad experiences.
Its surprising how quickly people will turn off ebay if they are constantly slagged off and hear awefull rumours.
After all they deserve there status as the biggest pig headed, greedy, arrogant and bone headed company on the internet ,They got there by popular demand they will lose it by visa versa.
HATE EBAY
Ebay is getting worse. They are now serving "sponsored links" from competing non-ebay stores on search result pages. This is most arrogant and unethical. Ebay keeps pushing sellers and unfortunately they are getting away with it. I think it's time for ebay users to get organized. Sellers must overcome their ebay addiction and stop selling for a few days, see how ebay will react. After all, sellers built ebay and they can destroy it, but only if they are willing to stand up and show some force in numbers. Sure, ebay owns the site, they can do whatever they want. See what will they do when millions of sellers decide to take a break and don't post anything for a week. If they can do it just once, it will show that they mean business.
This is a short note....
Evil, filthy, mosquito, blood sucking, ebay have pestered me for days (nearly every day for a week) to pay outrageous seller fees. I have a 99.99% feedback and am 100% reliable and honest. So having paid them every penny my fees they suspend my account for NO REASON AT ALL....
Why? Well, its because my credit card date had expired, so they could not self collect. remember I have paid the shits every penny I owe BUT BECAUSE THEY CANT CONTROL MY FINANCES THEY SUSPEND MY ACCOUNT.
Lets face it ebay is a lost cause. And the proprietors are a form of scum human being/alien/lizard....
Answer,,forget ebay and try to use a more considerate auction site, we should all try and shake off evil ebay.....
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As for the customer support......... Well .... HAVE YOU HEARD THE SAYING "PISSING IN THE WIND"!!!!!!!
eBay = 666
eBay's corporate philosophy is one of Politically Correct corporate greed. They are willing to allow the sale of stolen property and tolerate huge amounts of fraud, as long as the seller is making them money.
Those of us who are honest and want to engage in a non-PC activity like selling gun parts, get the shaft! Try to say anything in the forums that is slightly un-PC or critical of eBay and get banned!
I hope someone like Google or better yet Amway, develops a competitive alternative that allows the sale of any item not prohibitted by law and true FREE SPEACH! It would be my great pleasure to see eBay and all it's PC employees ROT IN HELL!
My sellers account has been suspended for 30 days for seller non-performance, even though my feedback is 99% percent perfect. These people here (See Link Below), have an awful 90.4% percent feedback rating, but Ebay is still allowing them to sell, even after numerous complaints. Ebay said they don't qualify for a "non-performance" suspension, but any fool can see that's a lie. I think I need an Attorney!
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=bargainland&ftab=AllFeedback
Amazing, Google found this article from 2005, and it's still alive and well. I have found you because I just recently started selling on Ebay. My situation is not as severe as some, but here's another straw:
A bidder claimed their account was not under their control just after a winning bid. Ebay reacted by ERASING the entire auction. There was no process or communication - auction just gone. What will the buyer repercussions be? Is it any impact on them?
What's worse: Ebay has a Second Chance Offer system, which I cannot use, because the entire auction, including other bidders, is gone.
What's even worse: I already extended a Second Chance to the second bidder because I have another of the same item! That is gone, too. The Second Chance rules clearly state it can be used for a second identical item. Doesn't Ebay have any clue how their own features are used?
Now (just starting out) I look bad as a seller, my item did not get the profit it would have (even as a Second Chance), and I've wasted all my own time following up on this.
I fully agree with Tony Blare, who posted earlier just today.
Also, Ebay's software still sucks... but that's a whole other post.
I have come to the conclusion; Ebay has one aim;
To wring every last penny out of anyone who dares use it, buyer or seller. Every last drop, with NO regard whatsoever to the results and harm it causes.
E Bay is evil and corrupt. Nothing more. they behave just like a corrupt Politician or dictator. they are not monitored or controlled or legally liable, just a law unto themselves.
Do not use them, vote with your feet and walk away, they WILL die in the end...................
Another fine instance of ebay looking the other way while one of their "power sellers" offers fraudulent Cisco equipment.
http://www.mneylon.com/blog/archives/2006/09/20/beware-of-scammers-on-ebay/
I couldn't agree more with the original post and most of the comments. eBay's customer service sucks. eBay gave me some lovely customer service right before they suspended my seller account. I put an example of same on my website, suspendedebayseller.com under the "eBay Customer Disservice" page. I plan to add more examples as I find the e-mails in the piles.
OnlineAuction.com has a customer service staffed with real people that solve seller / buyer problems. No outlandinsh fees for selling. Flat $8.00 a month no matter how many items you list or sell. Lots of free features that ebay charges for. Just check them out for yourself.
We should all share ways of screwing up ebay. I list an item that repeatedly sells well but only put one on for 10 days with a low reserve (minimum), ask interested customers to email with any quires then just sell them direct. No listing fees or final value fees. Ha Ha. Serves ebay right, greedy swine's.
Don't let the bastards control your credit card either via paypal. Cancel your card and get a new one sent, then the evil swine's cant keep scooping money off when they feel like it.
NEVER EVER use paypal for big sales or purchases, the bastards can freeze your account at will, stopping all other transactions.
BOYcott paypal its just as evil ,crazy and brain dead as ebay...
Offer buyers a DEDUCTION for NOT buying via PAYPAL.
eBay lies and sucks.
Bruce , your original article is dated Friday May 13, 2005 11:39AM and today is Friday August 20, 2007 and eBay have just done this exact same thing to me!!!.
Their customer service operators, who are actually empowered to stonewall the legitimate complaints of eBay sellers, exist purely to maintain the status quo at eBay.
On Friday August 20, 2007, Ebay's web site says that sellers can use PayPal to make one-off payments to pay their sellers fees.
NOT SO. THAT'S A LIE. No provision exists on the eBay site to pay one-off sellers fees with PayPal and there is no way of paying eBay seller fees from the PayPal site either.
They misinformed you on Friday May 13, 2005 11:39AM and they are are still doing it on Friday August 20, 2007. That is NOT AN ERROR. THAT'S A LIE.
I was assured that eBay were working to change this system so that sellers could make one-off payments using PayPal to pay their sellers fees. Yeah right.
When I received my seller bill, like you, I signed up for it to be paid automatically via my PayPal account. Turns out, they still don't debit PayPal automatically as you'd expect them to. Instead, new sellers are STILL supposed to divine that auto-pay works only for invoices received after auto-pay is set up. Now I'm waiting for the scammers to charge a late fee. My account is on hold.
The fact is they have had ample time to change the system but it is too damned profitable a scam for them to want to correct.
They solicit the business of new sellers by promising facilities and services they can not and do not provide. That is Fraud. They then penalize the sellers for their deliberate deception.
That's the scam. And it's not the only one at eBay.
I had a buyer a couple weeks ago gave me a bad address to ship to. When the USPS returned it to me I contacted the buyer for a corrected address and asked them to pay shipping for the second trip. They went bonkers and filed a claim with Paypal claiming non-shipment. I immediately re-shipped it and a week later Paypal informs me they found in favor of the seller and refunded them without even checking with me to see it I had shipped again. Now the buyer has both the money and the merchandise. Paypal told me to file an appeal however the appeal link was a dead link. Paypal is only on the buyer side and the seller (who also pays the fee) gets screwed!!!
My problem with eBay is from another angle - the buying experience is not worthwhile anymore. It used to be you could search eBay for crap individuals were selling at a good deal - the original idea of a giant garage sale. Now it is nothing but powersellers and shops selling wares. That's great if you just want flea market import stuff, or for those with creating small niche products, but really not what I found good about eBay. It is really hard to find used items, cheaply on eBay.
After joining Ebay in December of 2004 and initially using it to purchase musical instruments not available in my area of Canada, I decided to have a go at selling. I set up a seller account and set up Paypal at the same time. Sales were great ... I sold all over the world, met some wonderful people in Europe, Australia, Canada and the US. This was great! I paid the fees associated with selling instruments in the 1000.00 to 3000.00 range. My employer asked me to sell some items for him ...stereo equipment primarily. Again, all was good until January of this year when a fellow Canadian in Calgary [a newbie to Ebay, who lived a very long way away from me] decided that the surround system he had purchased, a 2800.00 Kef speaker system that he bought for 1199.00 with "buy it now" was not exactly what he wanted after receiving it. Using the excuse of "2 screws missing" he almost immediatly gave me a negative and demanded to return it for a full refund. The auction stated "item sold as is ... guaranteed not DOA" The system was tested before shipping and shipped in the original boxes and packaging" The cost to ship the system was $148.00.... 30 dollars less than the actual shipping cost due to a mistake by the employee who shipped it. No problem, I absorbed it as the cost of doing biz. After 3 weeks of emails back and forth trying to keep the guy happy, he reported he had blown up the subwoofer and wanted to return it. I said, no problem, though the auction did not state any guarantee, I told him to ship it back and we would replace or repair it. He didn't want to spend the money to return it so he filed a complaint with ebay. I responded to the complaint as Ebay allows. Subsequently, with no further input asked of me, the sale was reversed by Ebay and they charged my account. I didn't have any money in it at the time so I didn't use it .. I stopped any transactions, both buying and selling to deal with this and then move on. When I didn't re-instate the funds to the Paypal account, Paypal instructed the buyer to return the system to me. I RECEIVED THE SUBWOOFER ONLY [busted of course]! I reported this to Paypal and they advised me to "work with the buyer to get the rest of the speakers back" I heard nothing more from the buyer. When the buyer did not receive his funds, he filed a claim with his credit card agency. This is where you find out how those huge fees Paypal charges and advertises as "protectiong the buyer and fighting for you with the credit card companies" ...is all bullshit! Paypal told me within 24 hrs of receiving the inquiry from the credit card company that my claim/loss was not valid. I was instructed to return the funds "including the shipping" to my Paypal account. when I explained that I had only received 20% of the value of the product back from the buyer I was again told to "work with the buyer" The guys a thief and I now knew it and .....what a great scam!
As of this date, I have received a notice of collections from Paypal's collection agency , my Paypal account is useless... and there is no way I am giving anybody any money until I get my gear back.
So, Good Luck with "THAT" Ebay and Paypal
.... and another one bites the EBAY/PAYPAL dust!
Ditto again..
It was two weeks before Christmas, I went through the house,
I found Something to sell on Ebay, A pocelain mouse,
I went to the store, to buy tape and a box
The total for this, was aproximately 5 bucks.
I posted this mouse, It took a long time,
I gave it some borders, a picture so fine
It must of cost me three dollars and a dime.
I waited a week to see what it did
oh my gosh, it didnt have a bid.
Now what did my wandering eyes did appear.
An ebay bill, to pay up, before next year.
So I sold a toy called Thomas The Train
Only to get recalled My customers kid is in pain.
Now ebay is pissed and my family too
OMG what should I do?
Should I call safe harbor and customer service too?
Well time has gone by, And things have settled down,
Im writting this letter, in my hospital gown.
You see, I went crazy, cause Ebay is lazy.
I agree ebay thinks they are GOD i spend between 200-500 a month on fees and i cant even get a straight response on an email from them. Its all pre formated stuff then i tried to get a credit for $5 for a non paid auction and they cant even give me that. Let alone if you reference anything about your website they shut your your auctions down. I have many complaints between them and paypal i wish there was another alternative that worked i would drop them in a minute.
I was selling happily on eBay for awhile until the new feedback system was introduced. Two idiots left negative feedbacks for me and as a result under the new seller non performance deal, my account was restricted and it's as good as being suspended. These morons with basically nothing on their feedback are allowed to left negative feedbacks regardless of the situation. Once they left the feedbacks if you retailiate, you know they wouldn't care, cos they probably won't be back on eBay anyway!! This is just plain stupid!!! eBay not only sucks but it stinks as well!!! To all you morons out there!! GET A LIFE!!! Yes you know who you are!!!
A way to ruin Ebay is like the way they did it to me.
Paypal gives buyers and sellers their email address. address, name, and tel #. In turn this creates identity theft, unwanted spoof email and stalking. If you accept checks . well this gives them your bank account number.
Now we have competition to worry about. Whats the best way to get rid of them is buy something from them and leave feedback saying it stinks of cigarettes. Power sellers got it made beacuse they have the power to wipe Ebay out with this type of ammo. Worst of all if you sell internationally, youll all of a sudden win millions of dollars in lotteries in your email. (More Spoof)Ive been trying to get rid of a stalker for 4 years and nothing seems to work. If you like to know tricks to ruin someone try using some romance in email and watch the Ebay community family tumble. What is safe harbor anyways? What do they do? Oh yes, tell them somebody already stuck a knife in your back, and your dying. (it may work). Ive thrown more money away posting and canceling just to get away from all this spoof stalkers and identity theft. Now they have a feedback for postage fees. I guess its my fault the post office raised fees. Oh well. Well, I'm off to make phone calls to my credit bureau because somebody is applying for credit cards in my name. Take care.......
I was recently caught by a very sophisticated scam whic originated on ebay. I was looking for an ATV. I found one I liked on ebay. I sent the seller an email asking where it was located in hopes of inspecting it. It wasn't local so the seller emailed several photos from every angle. It looked good so I agreed on a price of $2,900.00. The seller said he would contact ebay to send an invoice. I received an email from ebay with a link to thier webpage, only it wasn't really their web page it was a ghost, imposter web page. The invoice said to send money to an ebay agent to be held until 5 days after I inspected the ATV. So far everything sounded good. However, the invoice said to pay via Western Union. I was concerned because I wanted to use PayPal and they had spelled my name wrong on the invoice. I logged onto ebay and went to the security site. I asked the question about the invoice. They said that the invoice was not valid bacuse it hadn't come from ebay. I figured something was up so I planned on not buying the ATV. Somehow the phoney site found out about my concern because they sent an email stating that the new ebay motors invoice page was in beta testing and not working correctly. They asked me to click on live help and they would work through it with me. I did and a phoney rep created a new correct invoice for me I wired funds and later found out I had been scammed out of $2,900. I was mortified. I thought transactions on ebay were safe. Wrong answer. they can not properly screen the thieves out of their site. What has really irritated me is that no one from ebay will talk to me about this. They keep trying to tell me, via email that I must have answered an unsolicited email. I am furious. THey won't listen or call me in person. This is a severe problem with their site. A group has recreated the ebay site to scam buyers. When I received the email from the phoney ebay site it contained links that went to the real ebay site. I could check my account, see items listed and review sellers stats. As soon as they got my money all the links were dead ended and didn't work any longer.
WARNING: IF YOU OWE EBAY FEES YOU CAN'T PAY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THIS NEW NON-PERFORMANCE CRACKDOWN, AND YOU MOVE, DO NOT GIVE YOUR FORWARDING ADDRESS TO THE POST OFFICE.
Ebay unfairly, and without warning, suspended my account back in June, only because I cracked down on DEATBEAT bidders, and they RETALIATED and left me NEGATIVE feedback. All of my paying customers left me POSITIVES and are fully SATISFIED. Anyway to make a long story short, this suspension caused me to be EVICTED from my Apartment, and unable to pay about $900.00 in Ebay fees. After being evicted from my Apartment, I have moved in with my sister until I can get some money rolling in from my new job working at a car dealership. Anyway, I went to the U.S. Post Office and got one of those Official Change Of Address Kits, and filled out all the information so they can forward my Mail to my new address.. Well, one week later my sisters phone starts ringing off the hook. Guess Who??
I.C. Systems of course (A Collection Agency), calling for me, wanting to know when I will be paying Ebay $900.00. The good folks at the Post Office SOLD ME OUT!!! I had no idea they would give away personal information like that, I thought they were simply to just forward the mail. But, they did, because no one else knew where I went. I think this is outragious that they would call at my sisters house, on my sisters phone, 4 times a day starting at 8:00 AM, lasting until 8:00 PM, at least 6 days a week.. This has been going on for weeks now and is starting to cause friction between me and my sister. What right do they have to call my sisters house, I never gave out her phone number to anyone, it's unlisted. But, somehow I.C. Systems got her number. If I would have known this was going to happen, I would have never given my forwarding address to the Post Office, I would have contacted each mailer individually (Except Ebay), and given them my new mailing address. I do plan on paying their outragious $900.00, for over inflated fees, but not now, I was just evicted from my apartment because of them.
I hope some of you will learn from this... To say, EBAY SUCKS, would be an understatement. But, if I said what I really think about Ebay, they would understandably, probably, have to remove the comment from here, so I'm not going to say what I really think about Ebay.
So, here it is, the next best thing, EBAY SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HAPPY BIDDING!!!!!
P OWED
I am a used car dealer in Staten Island NY and have been using Ebay for 2 years to sell cars. I'm begging someone else to please enter the used car auction business quickly! Their selling fees are out of control and they keep changing the rules to screw the sellers. Constantly they cater to new bidders and when the bidder doesnt pay the seller gets screwed out of money. This site is exacly what I was going to make if i didnt find one. I have the html skills to do so. Get me a few financial backers and I could easily come up with a new auction site that charges half the cost of ebay with better quality. Its not too easy! They have become too large an too greedy!!! They have no competition so they can get away with it!
Ebay is now a big ugly greedy monster that needs destroying. My 17 year old son honestly placed his car for sale on ebay and a bed. Both items got bid on and sold for a reasoneable sum yet it turned out both sales were from NON PAYING BIDDERS. Ebay charged my son 2 listing fees and final value fees that came to £40. Yet my son received no money from either sale. Ebay now constantly bombard him with emails phone calls and now legal action letters. Anyway we refuse to pay ebay as they just have better systems in place to stop non paying bidders who leave honest sellers with a bill. I wont use ebay again and my son definately wont ever. Ebay is a dying business and people should take action and avoid the clumsy monster once and for all. Ebay really does suck. Everybody should tell everybody not to use ebay and get them to tell others till the big ugly greedy beast is finally laid to rest.
TO: Cowboy-Boot Bruce.
Why did you pay $250 for the shipping? I assume it was indicated in the add. If you felt it was a ripoff, you should not have bid. Playing "devil's advocate" here, I have listed some stuff I had laying around the house for .99. And, I know it will only cost $2 or $3 to ship, but I make the shipping $4 or $5 to at least make SOMETHING on the item. I think this is fare. But, $250 is outrageous.
TO: Corrine,
Personally, I think the whole Feedback thing is stupid. If you see somthing you want to bid on you should bid on it. If you get "burned" you should be able to complain to Ebay and have them warn the seller. After several complaints the seller should be thrown off Ebay. But Ebay insulates themselves from human contact as much as possible and has set up the feedback system to turn over thier responsibility to the customers.Ebay reacts to statistics generated by the Feedback numbers automatically with no human intervention allowed.
This is the letter I sent them.
Feedback > Understanding the Feedback system > Leaving, replying, and following up to feedback
Message: I am shocked that I'm basically getting robbed from ebay. I was trying to sell a item just to see if it could sell within some hours. But It couldn't because the fact I didn't have enough "ratings" or "feedback" basically because I was new, people didn't trust me. I was just wasting my time so I closed it with the first day and now I still have to pay $4.90?????, for something that didn't even have one bid on? I didn't even have this account for that long AT ALL,one day. This is my concern that you will go in my bank and take my money for this reason being. I thought Ebay was a great way to sell things but it's only a scam. I was trying to make some money so I can pay bills and now I have more money that I have to worry about now because of you guys.
That's my horror story, I hate ebay with a passion. So you say 4.90, that's a lot when your pockets are sinking and your rent it still due.
Ebay customer service SUCKS. I recently had an incorrect item sent to me, and with little support from the seller, I've been sending emails back and forth with ebay customer "service" reps for the last 3 weeks trying to get this resolved. There seem to be the same form emails that they keep sending, and I'm not getting anywhere with them.
I still use Ebay because they hold a monopoly on auction listings. Once Google Auctions gets set up (can't wait) Ebay's really gonna tank.
By the way..Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Target, they're all hiring right now, so these people suspended shouldn't have trouble finding other jobs.
Bruce
I recently bought a pair of cowboy boots off Ebay, paid .01 Cent for the boots, and $250.00 for shipping. IS THIS A RIP OFF OR WHAT??? I'm glad Ebay is finally cracking down on these scam artist charging outrageous shipping fees. I have no sympathy whatsoever for these people. Kick My Printer Dot Com, should be kicked off Ebay for life, and all the other weasels engaging in this type of practice!!! I gave him NEGATIVE feedback for charging soo much for shipping, he retaliates and leaves me a negative.. Well, the funny thing is, 3 days later he sends me an email begging me to withdraw the feedback I left him, saying his account has been suspended for a non performance violation because of the feedback I left.. I thought that was so funny, this guy rips me off, now he expects me to feel sorry for him..LOL. I'm not going to withdraw the feedback, I want him to suffer, it's about time ebay did something to get these CLOWNS off Ebay.
EBAY DOES NOT SUCK!!!!!! AND NEITHER DOES PAYPAL!!
ebay really topped themselves now. I just had 7 auctions cancelled for including the shipping charges! Their email went like this:
You recently listed the following listing:
300137732798 - Xerox Tektronix Phaser 860 8200 Transfix Solenoid
300139195562 - Tektronix Xerox Phaser 860 8200 Printhead with Warranty
300139195150 - Xerox Tektronix Phaser 860 8200 Maintenance Tray Refurb
300139403444 - Xerox Tektronix Phaser 860 8200 Upper Feed Assembly
300138140057 - Printer Repair Tool Kit for Xerox Tektronix HP Lexmark
300138134652 - Xerox Phaser 860 8200 Maintenance Tray Guides 351109900
300139633138 - Xerox Tektronix Repair Tool Kit for Phaser 860 8200 850
The listing was removed because it violated the eBay Circumvention of eBay Fees policy. The violation occurred when you included the following information in your listing:
Shipping costs: US $11.60
Shipping costs: US $14.51
Shipping costs: US $13.12
Shipping costs: US $13.62
Shipping costs: US $12.49
All fees related to this listing have been credited to your account. We also notified members who placed bids on the item that the listing has
been canceled.
No excessive shipping, no threat to the lack of integrity that ebay tries to promote, just good ol'fashioned shipping charges. Others were cancelled for including a phone number for customers to call us directly. Perish the thought of a customer talking to a real person who knows something about what they are selling.
We're going back to selling straight off our website. Ebay has been more hassle then they have ever been worth.
Happy to hear I'm not the only seller disgusted with eBay. I'm a one-man show that has been selling on eBay for 8+ years, full time 5+ years. I spend 80-100 hours a week doing eBay crap. I have nearly 3,000 items in my eBay store and sell 8k-16k/mo. with them consistantly every month for the last several years. Most is consignments.God knows thats not my profit. I'm a Top-10,000 seller with over 16,000 feedbacks. I pay over $1,000/month in eBay fees and $400+ month in Paypal fees. Never suspended. I'm ready to move my rear end on to something better. I was once a die-hard eBayer. I've long said that eBay isn't giving the sellers any reasonable discounts or benefits like decreased fees for performance because they don't have to. They continue to grow and by giving us discounts or benefits it would only cost them revenue. When the day comes that eBay starts giving sellers benefits it would be the beginning of the end. It's that time. Decreased UPS rates, free research tools for stores, lousy 14% decrease in the first tier of FVF, etc. eBay wouldn't do that if they weren't in trouble. Major companies WILL jump into the game. They are waiting for the giant to stumble, and I give it another 1-2 years. The eBay seller dissatisfaction is absolutely tremendous. Sellers are reopening their storefronts and going back to their local markets.
Here's a few of my complaints.
--Sales for more that 95+% of full time sellers have remained stagnant or gone down over the last 2 years including my own. We've watched eBay fees go up and when postal rates skyrocketed this year it killed the $10 and less items which a huge amount of sellers deal in.
--eBay does SQUAT to protect sellers. I had a local piece of trailor trash threaten to kill me and my two kids (how does he know I have two kids?) because he claims he didn't receive his $5 matchbook he won from me 2-1/2 years ago. Reported the emails he sent through eBay including the header information and eBay says they can't do anything about it and to report him to the police. ??? You mean to tell me that he used eBay as a tool to commit a crime that can get him arrested but that crime isn't enough to suspend his eBay account!!! BS. Had another idiot threaten to rape my mother last week. Not even going to waste my time reporting it.
--Like others, I also have a problem with the unpaid item strikes that are getting reversed. eBay reverses the first unpaid item strike for any reason 100% of the time if the buyer debates it. Buyers can get 4 strikes before they are suspended. And, should a buyer find that he has three strikes all that buyer has to do is create a new user id to avoid suspension. Unpaid item suspension is per id, NOT per person. Users are allowed to have as many id's as they want and in reality can have an infinite amount of unpaid item strikes.
--What happened to the FREE listing days when insertion AND gallery were free twice a year? We get 20 cent listing days now and all it is is eBay damage control. The last two 20 cent listing days came 1- after USPS postage rates increased and 2-when it became known that the V-Tech gunman bought his clips off eBay. Also to add, I think the 14% final value decrease was a slap in the face. It saves what, $17 cents???
--I've paid well over $50k in eBay fees during the course of my membership for a SERVICE. No material goods! I have, however, been awarded a key chain flashlight and a light-up bouncey ball during my 8+ years.
--Non-paying deadbeats should not be allowed to leave feedback.
--I have a BIG gripe about the new seller ratings. 1-How can a non-paying deadbeat rate my item description and shipping time? 2-Can't buyers clearly see what we charge for shipping in our description? 3-How about rating my packing skills since that is something that can't be seen. 4-I want to leave these types of ratings for buyers.
--Personally, I like the old sell-your-item form. I listed 1,400 items in one sitting using it. I can't do that with this new form. Why didn't eBay give us the option of using the old or the new? Instead, they deleted the old SYI form and forced us to use the new piece of crap.
--eBay needs to start policing their own site rather than relying on its members to make the reports. I listed a 1972 Penthouse magazine and apparently its an issue not allowed in the core site because it shows a partial breast. I found several of that same issue with the picture posted that have successfully sold over the last 90 days. Not to mention, there are hundreds of graphic photographs of nudes listed at any time on the core site that don't get removed. And, get this, Safe Harbor called me and threated to suspend my account of the $6 magazine that I had listed in my store for over a year!!!! But they don't suspend users who threaten to kill your kids!!!
--eBay will end an item if another user simply CLAIMS to own its copyrights. eBay won't even so much as LOOK at the listing and you can't contest it! No proof needs to be shown. I have a 1950s letterhead from a CBS television show with excellent graphics. Some jerk said his grandfather owned the rights to that image and they ended the item and said I'd be suspended if I relisted it. How lame! How bout I claim to own rights to Disney, Ford, and Coca-Cola? End all of it now, I own the copyrights!
I can go on and on and on and on with this but I need to get back to work selling stuff so I can pay the $1400 in eBay fees coming out of my account Monday and I haven't paid my utility bills.
i still slightly use ebay but not as much as i did,i was turning over 10k a month on ebay all be it the profit was not great but one day they decided to suspend my acount for none seller proforance!!! i got negitive feed back!!! i have since had paypal steal over 1000 pounds from me and tell me i can only get it back if i apply for it in 180 day 6 MONTHS(after 8 weeks of doing everthing they say0 this was my business and now I have had my house repossed, for 1 silly mistake,but hay i am a fitter and dont give up i now use a few sites,tazbar.com,ebid,cqout to name a few i also realized that i can have a website hosted for 20 pounds a month no listing fees no FVF etc. its hard but i am fitghting hard and i do think ebay is a law in to its self and well eventuly realise that by crusing the smaller business it will cost it self in the end becuse nobody will use them,ALL GOOD THINGS COME TO AN END,
HI -
I just recently sold on ebay. I opened an acount and they suckered me into some manager 5.99 per month and the store 15.00 a month by advertising lower insertion fees if you opened a store.
Well I, like you was busy selling and after 1 month of using ebay and paypal my 8.00 sale was giving them a profit of 2.33 and me a profit of 1.48 ????? okay glad I looked at my sales report and was smart enough to figure it out.
what a rip off. Now for the store rip off - yeah you get to list your items for buy it now for only .6 cents!! Then look at your final value fee - it DOUBLES and ends up being the same as or more than the regular listing fee for an auction style listing. So - I paid for the store manager and store for what??? OH yeah...to line ebay/paypals pockets.
Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
I guess this must be hell, money rules and I've been suffering because of it since the day they smacked my behind in the hospital to get me breathing.
Even though most searches on the internet bring you to sales - oh yeah ebay is teaming up with the search engines now - see a lot of ebay when you do searches...I can still find the truth on my computer....I wonder when the money grubber will conquer the internet too.
It cost 7.00 for a table at an indoor flea market and I don't have to share a part of my sales.
I was a sucker too - I believed all the hype they sold me.
and to top it all off - I had mentioned another product I had for sale in my store on an auction style listing and they ended it and refused to give me my listing fees back because they said I was trying to make a deal behind their backs. -- Also - Forget making side deals ebays greed is wise and thier purchase of paypal is a way to end this. Shoot - I placed my ad - If folks want to buy from me by mail without having to bid - hey thats part of the reason to pay for advertising isn't it?
PEACE - We can find peace in knowing we are much wiser now! thanks for the warnings and for alowing me to share.
It really is a shame I have to hurt myself to learn - wish I had taken more time before I jumped to gun and started selling.
UUGGG - Ebay / Paypal "FIRE" Do not touch - Ouch, Ouch, Ouch!
I have just closed my Paypal account because, when I went to purcase something after not using account for long time II mistakenly put in wroung pass word, then after answering security questions correctley I was locked out of my account. then when I finally after several e-mail I got some one live on Phone to help it turns out to be credit card company that could not help. Finally after 6 e-mails, yes one from good old Grace. they wanted me to fax ID, phone bill statment to other forms of ID. Well I just called the Card company and canceelled card. If you want to buy on e-bay Moneyorder or Check. takes time but no paypal fees. Yes both E-bay and Paypal Suck. And I will never use Paypal for anything ever. And everyone I talk to from now on will know it. thanks Ben
i, rightfully add a fee for handling. so my shipping charges are a little higher than the postal rate. but there seems to be so many "wiseguys" out there that ant you to charge them exactly what the postage is, that i'v gotten several negative feedbacks about my shipping cost. So, ebay, put my account on restriction and i can't sell anything for 30 days or more. Mind you, the cost of shipping is clearly indicated. But these scumbags buy an item and then put in neg feedback. There is no way to talk to anyone at ebay. they protect themselves from human contact. even their, so called customer service phone number is a series of "press 1, press 2" run arounds that lead you back in a circle. They don't look at the real problem, just computer generated numbers.
Ebay continually takes the side of the buyer not the seller. I have been selling on ebay for 10 years and have yet to have them take my side in a dispute and most disputes take at least a month and 10 - 20 emails to resolve some much longer. Now that they own paypal they have a monopoly in online auctions. They dictate with no concern for the people that made them like myself, sellers with nearly 10 years on there site.
This is unique. Dealing with most brick and mortar businesses the vender/seller is given the benefit of doubt. Not with ebay. Why after all of this time has there not been a genuine competitor raise up. If there was I would dump ebay in a minute.
I AGREE, EBAY AND MEG SH*TMAN TRULY SUCK!!!!
If your an ebay seller that uses a drop shipper you may not be in business on Ebay much longer. If an item becomes out of stock or discontinued after the auction has started there would be no way to know until you go to fill the order.. Being unable to deliver an item makes some buyers furious, and you most likely will receive negative or neutral feedback for it, even though it was totally out of your control. I was recently suspended because of one item that became discontinued after the auction had started.. I immediately refunded their money explaining, that I was more upset than he was. Well, this guy is angry, nothing I can do to calm him down, so he gives me one negative, and one neutral unfair feedback comment. He must have also reported me to ebay, because 2 days after that I get this SNPC NOTICE saying my account has been restricted. I tried to re-list some items, and sure enough, I am unable to.. They shut me down, I can't believe it!! My feedback was 100% excellent until this happened. They suspended me for 30 days because of this one a**hole. Ebay tells me to try and work things out with the buyer, and gives me some things I can do, such as checking dispute console, but there is no disputes?? I have tried to work things out with this gentlemen, including offering him another item instead, but all I get from him is an email saying "HOW MANY FINGERS AM I HOLDING UP". I can't work things out with him, and ebay say's that if my feedback does not improve in 30 days they will permanently suspend my account or accounts. YES, IT'S TRUE, EBAY REALLY SUCKS!!!!!!!!
I was talking to a live chat rep a few moments ago, and he just confirmed to me, that sellers can write whatever terms on their listings but they are basically useless and has no meaning to eBay. Meaning that you can say payment due in 3 days, but as long as the buyer pay before the last second you closed your dispute, the payment is still valid. Which means even if you said you only wait 3 days, eBay insist that you to wait at least 14, without your permission. But even if the buyer pays or not is also not an issue to eBay either. As long as he response to your dispute, even if it is just craps, the buyer has earned the right to rate you, regardless if he eventually pays up or. That is also not an issue to eBay. So the fact is, buyers has all the rights in eBay. Right not to pay and still complain about seller's non performance. Why isnt there a buyer non performance rating? Is eBay trying to tell sellers to send buyers the item even though buyers didnt pay? So that it wont affect your performance rating? And yes, I am just a small seller.
After almost 10 years selling on Ebay, today was the last straw. Ebay sucks. There's no doubt about it. We had over 10,000+ positive feedbacks with a rating of 99.7%. We have a list of thousands of satisfied customers and ran approximately 200 auctions per day every day. Ebay decided in its wisdom that because one jerk that we could not satisfy dinged us (even though we refunded him, gave him the product for free and even gave him a positive feedback), to shut us down because we simply refused to service this guy's needs any longer. Ebay, we have just two words for you -- f--- off. We're never again going to deal with Ebay or Paypal. These two companies have been horrible to us even though we have been nothing but loyal to them. Paypal even once supported a woman who tried to cheat us out of $3,000.00. She eventually lost her case in small claims court, but Paypal stood behind this crook rather than the company (us) who had thousands of confirmed sales and a five year stretch of pure loyalty. Ebay is due to fall and I will relish the day it does. I am currently working with the founders of two major internet companies to come up with an alternative to Ebay as I would love to become their direct competition. Ebay -- your day is coming due.
I got the very same thing in reverse. I was selling a few hun a month on eBay of some tools we manufacture. I NEVER signed up for auto payment and didn't keep a close eye on the ebay billing either.
Well, the month before last I bought a bunch of steel woth my paypal card to make more tools and ,,,low and behold, they
1. Debeted my bill from my PauPal account (which I never authorized)
2. Charged me 15 bucks when there was not enough money left after buying the steel to pay the bill in my checking account.
I contacted the "live chat" and first they told me I HAD to have auto pay, (eventhough I had ID verified and Paypal verrified accounts???) Well they then said that maybe I was right and they would remove my "autopay". OK, It was some cyber screw-up and I let it slide.
GUESS WHAT HAPPENED THE NEXT MONTH! You guessed it. They told me it was because they are an IT based company and computers are slower then live persons! They have 1000 bazillion accounts and eventhough if you buy gas with your Paypal account and it will show on the account before you can get home,,,They take over 30 days to change your payment method. They wouldn't think of notifying you either!
They canciled my account, My son's account and my Wife's account! I worked for 5 years to get that little tool business established and they cut me off at the knees in a matter of milliseconds. I wont starve without them and they will never know I am gone butmScrew Ebay, Screw PayPal and Screw the entire staff that works there. May they rot in hell!
Eventhough I was a good customer both buying and selling for 5 years they dumped me like a cheapp whore. They will never know I am gone, There is no way to sue them because they hide behind 200 layors of e mail addresses, but sooner or later some government buaruacrat will catch up to them and there may be a few more tenants in the jailhouse.
AS for me,,,NEVER AGAIN! (I do much better with direct sales to supply houses, anyway!)
Don't underestimate the power of bueraucracy. My buddy is a project mgr. at Ebay, and says they have no idea about what the other hand is doing.
I have a new angle on ebay non paying buyers. Possibly a new type of scam?? I sold a part to a fiend who accepted my box but then paypal takes the money away because he doesn't have enough money in there. So now the guy has my stuff plus I sent it to him, and he's been ignoring my emails. So I finally decide to file a NPB and give him a strike. I got my $3 listing fees back but somehow, after a day or two, ebay reverses the strike. So I ask them about it and they tell me sellers can't appeal in this case. The guy deserves the strike but I lost my part, the shipping and my confidence. It's all fishy to me. Paypal, Ebay and those who know how to beat the system. So I told them I'd quit. Even watch out for buyers who are paypal verified and have a paypal confirmed address. You can still get reamed after the transaction is supposedly done.
Bargainland is back on Ebay now I see after a short lived 2 day absence, but at this time, they only have 23 items listed. I guess Ebay had a change of heart after they saw how many bids he has on his on auction website. Looks like this guy has the bull by the horns as far as his website is concerned, I hope he takes the ball and runs with it and tells Ebay where to go. I wonder if the Tiffany Company knows Ebay only goes after the smaller fish, while letting the bigger fish ( Such as Bargainland with a 90.4% rating) keep on selling. That sure wouldn't look to good in court.
This is what happens when your company gets so large that you start forgetting about the smaller people who help get you there. Ebay should do all in their power to make ensure that whatever issue you have whether its their fault or yours is fixed. .8 cents they are making an issue out .8 cents and they can get away with this because there really isnt a large enough competitor where you could go and give them your own business. Customer service will be the death or breath of some companies and the ones who this will always be prosperous.
Bargainland has there own auction website now www.Bargainland.net, just opened yesterday, and the dude has BIDS all over the place, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!! Is this going to be the next Ebay?? Bargainland is a GREAT name, and would be an excellent foundation upon which to build a successful online auction business similar to Ebay. I don't know if he's going to allow other people to sell on his site, but it doesn't look like he needs Ebay anymore.. Maybe I'll buy stock in the company..LOL
This is the note the jack asses at ebay sent out to ebayers. reads similar to this.
It is important to note that the restriction you encountered was not
directed specifically to your account but rather a site-wide initiative
that we've implemented. As such, all sellers that sell brand-name items
on our site were faced with this restriction at one time or another.
This restriction will remain on your account at this time.
We're unfortunately not able to be more specific at this point as to the
precise types of goods, timeframes or listing amounts that will be
affected by these initiatives. We want to maintain flexibility to adapt
our initiatives to maximize their effectiveness, and also prevent
fraudsters from easily evading them.
Thank you for your time.
after reading the above note im sure you see what I see. They wont give any timeframes or reasoning. we are effed!
The crooks at ebay are at it big time at ruining lives. I cant sell. im sittong on about $10,000 worth of merchandise. I could be ruined by this. Lord help me.
also BARAGINLAND AND ANOTHER BIG SELLER HAVE BEEN KICKED OFF SAYS A GOOD SOURCE. OR THEY WILL CREATE NEW NAMES AND PICK UP WHERE THEY LEFT OFF.
I AM POWER SELLER WITH 99%+ FEEDBACK ON EBAY.
I have a restriction they said would last 30 days for something they said was lower 5% of customer satisfaction which is bull. THEY HAVE NO RHYME OR REASON!TRUST AND SAFETY (EBAY POLICE) IS A JOKE EVEN WHEN THEY ANSWER IT IS A MISLEADING OR AMBIGUOUS REASON WHY YOU ARE RESTRICTED! they need clear cut reasoning of violations and number of times,etc. listed on ebay website not just some ghost making decisions! I sell name brand items everyday for 7 years and even I can be fooled from time to time and im an expert on quality and brand names. I even improved my customer satisfaction just like they asked. STILL NOTHING!
It is now 50 days and restriction is not lifted. I normally have 50 items listed average.
It went from letting me list 15 items a day, then 10, now NOTHING In a matter of a 2 week period. EBAY WILL NOT LET ME LIST NOTHING! Now the excuse is for something happened in may(already punished for in May) apparently listed some jeans that are not allowed on ebay. 1 pair of jeans! 5 years and 4 negatives. Only 4 negatives! Get ready because ebay is going to die. Ebay is sabotaging us so OUR POWERSELLER rating will disapper. They know if you cant sell you will lose POWERSELLER RATING AND THEN THEY CAN SUSPEND YOU FOR GOOD. WE NEED LAWYERS! And get this NEWS JUST IN! EBAYS 3RD LARGEST SELLER BARGAINLAND IS NOW GONE! NOT 1 ITEM LISTED AS OF THIS MORNING JULY31 2007. THIS IS BIG BECAUSE BARGAINLAND HAS BEEN ABLE TO OPERATE WITHOUT RESTRICTIONS WITH 26,000+ NEGATIVES. IM SURE THAT PUTS THEM IN LOWEST PERCENT OF EBAY SELLERS BUT EBAY HAS BEEN THEIR WHORE FOR SOME TIME NOW. THEY PAY $1,000,000+ in fees. GET READY BECAUSE THIS IS A SHAKEOUT OF THE BIGGEST KIND IF BARGAINLAND IS GONE. Amazon will see me more and overstock.COM The Louis VUITTON and Tiffany Lawsuits have put some fire under there as-ses!
Correcting my typo below:
Ebay does not make BUYERS get verified to sign up as a BUYER.
Thanks.
I have been thru just about every scenario w/Ebay that I have read on this thread, so I won't rant on about anything in particular. Ebay is a socialistic business practice, and amounts to nothing more than legalized racketeering. End of story.
Here's the easiest and best way (I know of) to fight back. It isn't much, but it will put a smile of satisfaction on your face, nonetheless:
Now...
Ebay makes sellers (who pay the bills) register and get confirmed (ID, verifying address, bank info, etc).
Ebay DOES NOT make buyers (who are no profit for Ebay) do anything to register as a seller. Heck, you can put ALL false info into the application, and it works fine!
Do this:
Sign up for new bogus buyer accounts regularly, and wreak havok on the Ebay site, with messages to buyers, false bids, retractions, non-payments, false accusation about selling violations, etc. Ya know, the same shit that EBAY has allowed buyers to do to us for years. Do it every day, as many times as you can. Make a new buyer username every day or so, to keep Ebay off track, and use that username to continue harassing the system. One point, you SHOULD use a free IP anonymizer so Ebay cannot track where you are doing all this from. Those programs are small, and can be gotten free on the web.
If you are or have quit the Ebay scam system anyway, who cares about doing this. Fight fire WITH fire!
SIMPLE SOLUTION!!!! To deal with this Baloney 95% or less feedback crap.. We as sellers could form a bidding group.. Would need at least 50 to 100 people... When ever a seller gets tagged by Ebay the seller will list something simple like a picture of there toaster.. List an opening bid of 1 cent.. Quantity of lets say 50 pictures.. We all in the group in this case 50 bidders each bid on one of the pictures... List for 3 days after the end we ALL leave SUPER POSITIVE feedback.. ALL the seller has to do is Email a picture of the toaster to all the bidders... At most the seller will have to pay $10 to $20 bucks to get a big boost to there feedback.... The bidders of course never really have to pay and even if they did its only 1 CENTS.......
We would need to form a SELLERS UNION.... If enough sellers join we could collect fees to hire legal representation to tie Ebay up in court and hurt there pocket book... PLUS when word would get out it would hurt there stock price...
ebay is nothing more than a haven for scamming bidders to playfully bid with no intent to pay for fun, why they do this? well they simply have nothing better to do. classic example, 20 items sold over a period of 1 month, not a single person paid, they were basically competing sellers jacking my item listings. so then they complain to ebay, ebay suspends my account for absolutely nothing, and then expects me to pay them for the item listings, regardless of the bidder paying, this is pure and simple criminal misconduct via illegally overbilling , I am simply waiting for a paper bill for the fees they are not due, so I can file a criminal complaint in federal court.
I'm another victim of eBay. Have had a problem for 5 days now and after 3 live help sessons and 2 emails I get an email to describe the problem in detail. Have already done this 5 times. My problem is: Everything works on eBay but I can't list. I get a message I get is SELL, This feature temporarily unavailable then it tells you to press continue, brings you back to the first page and them the round robin starts. I have been told there are techs working on it, engineers working on it and then I get this back to go email. I have been on eBay about 6 years, have 100% possitive on 943 sales. Anybody got any suggestions?
Barbara
I was under the impression it was against the law to sell boot leg cd movies. Or copied movies.
I purchased a cd and was unaware that the cd was a poor copy or a boot leg.
What gives with eBay allowing this trash!
The talked about lawsuits from Louis Vuitton and Tiffany have put pressure on ebay to do SOMETHING. That SOMETHING IS BOTHERING, Harassing Honest sellers and pushing us away. as of today I have 99%+ feedback AND STILL ON SUSPENSION. in the meanitime the big sellers get 1,00 negatives a month and operate without interruption from ebay. ITS A SLAP IN THE FACE AND I HAVE A DEEP DISDAIN For ebay at this time. I will soon be having conversations with LV, Nightline, Dateline,Polo,Lacoste and rest of the big brands about ebays mess because im going to help them bring them to their knees. The day will come when they have to answer to this mess they have created. Congress and Senate and all lawmakers will be involved and make a level playing field. The unclear rules sucks.
Thanks for all the reports here - it all confirms the reports I've heard from friends that Ebay is one step above the Nigerian estate scammers. I've been getting alot of fake messages claiming my Ebay and Paypal accounts are suspended due to whatever, well I've never had accounts with either and have you noticed that like those sleazy outfits that sell anti-virus for your PC, Ebay doesn't accept email from the public? You have to register as a captive subject to their endless terms and conditions before they'll accept email. Why doesnt the FTC or some other government agency go after that as an unfair anti-consumer practice? So I get email from alleged Ebay and Paypal and just delete it since unlike honest companies, these outfits have no interest in protecting their reputations, that would require some trace element of business ethics or honesty, obviously traits that are antithetical to the Ebay concept.
timeticking
email me at spiraldancer517@hotmail.com I have the same problem and trust and saftey is being squirrely as hell about why.
My current experience is with a Buy It Now "Buyer" who would not respond to emails or pay in over a week. The horrid/evil Dispute policy means waiting over 2 weeks - just so I can try to not pay Ebay's fat cut - not to resolve ANYTHING! The POS sociopath "Buyer" will continue to be an Ebay member in good standing. When I issue Negative Feedback, I will almost certainly receive Negative Feedback in return for being an honest attempted "Seller". It's been the same the MANY times that I've been a victim of the widespread fraud on Ebay as a Buyer - If one issues Negative Feedback against a criminal fraud Seller, one receives Negative Feedback in return for just trying to be an honest Buyer. Ebay takes NO responsibility for anything - only WAY too much money from Sellers. I PRAY for the day they become an insignificant bad memory with market share lost to decent competitor! Truly EVIL people!!!
im trying wagglepop next week to se how it goes
it looks a little like ebay.i have a perfect feedback
scorebut my relationship with ebay is starting to
fall apart. they will not explain why they removed my
listings.here is the response from cs
(Due to security concerns, I'm unable to share with you the specific
criteria that we used to make this decision. We keep this informational
confidential, to prevent potential misuse.)
what ever that means. SO I WILL GIVE (WAGGLEPOP) A SHOT
keep in mind that if you are large seller paying thousands in fees ebay will give you a free pass and you can rob, steal and cheat people all you want and ebay will not stop you as long as you keep those big fees coming in to them. ebay/paypal are prostitutes to the big sellers. They are not interested in part timers or sellers that have a thousand feedbacks. thats why they are so hard on small sellers they are squeezing us out. they are courting larger liquidators and people like sharper image and others so they can sell their high number of broken ass store returns. look at all the negatives these high volume sellers have, customer service is nonexistent. they can sell you a pile of junk and run away with yr money. and ebay allows this. if you (small seller) break one rule your ass is grass. you get the idea?
Ebay totally sucks - they have zero customer service yet charge high fees for posting. Then they double screw you with their pay pal fees.
I just keep away from them
I cant possibly be in lower 2% of buyer satisfaction with over 99% feedback.
ebay needs new mathematicians because thats the biggest bullshyt I ever heard. we have to get organize and hit them where it hurts. feel free to contact me with ideas so we can rally thousands of us against this trashy ebay company who betrayed those who helped them grow into a global company. and paypal just as trashy.
Read the new ebay restriction letter that is on page when they limit you. read this trash below. Keep in mind we are over 99% feedback right now for over 4 years. Bargainland and others have 90% or below and thousands of negatives with no limitations. read below the b/s they put on our page. and believe me we cant list more than 10 items right now. for 30 days I have been fkd! ebay can go to helll. read below for yourself!
eBay requires sellers to maintain minimum standards in buyer satisfaction. Our goal is to ensure that the marketplace is a safe and reputable place for our community to buy and sell.
When a seller lists an item and a buyer places a winning bid for that item, they have formed a contract. When a seller fails to fulfill the obligation in their contract, they are in violation of eBay's Seller Non-Performance policy . If more than 5% of a seller's buyers are dissatisfied, as measured by negative and neutral Feedback left or Item Not Received complaints, the seller is in violation of the Seller Non-Performance policy. It is important for you to understand the following information regarding your performance:
Based upon inputs from the buyers over the past 90 days, your level of performance resulted in >5% buyer dissatisfaction. This account falls into the bottom 2% of all eBay sellers with regard to buyer satisfaction.
Buyer dissatisfaction may be caused by such things as:
Item not received
Item significantly not as described
Item shipped late or packaged poorly
Inadequate communication with buyer
As a result, your allowable dollar sales have been reduced by 25%, based on your past 3-month average dollar sales volume.
eBay will continue to evaluate your account on a monthly basis. Restrictions will not be lifted unless your buyer dissatisfaction rate is brought below 5%. Please note that failure to reach this level within four months will result in the suspension of your account(s).
Significant improvements to your customer satisfaction must be seen in order for us to consider reinstating full selling privileges. Please note that should these improvements not occur, eBay may be required to take further action.
If you require assistance with this matter, please contact Customer Support.
Here's some steps you can take now:
• View emails sent from eBay in My Messages
• See all open disputes in the Dispute Console
• Learn more about the Item Not Received or Significantly Not as Described Process
• Learn more about Mutual Feedback Withdrawal
EBAY SUCKS!!!!!!!!!! They are the puppet masters pulling the strings. Watch out! They can cut those strings at any time and laugh at you on your way down. They suspend for no reason, limit seller accounts for stupid reasons that they make up, and let the stalkers of ebay harass you to death with no help at all!!
eBay is out of control, them and their extortionist sister company PayPal. What is the story with me not being able to withdraw MY money out of my PayPal account. Oh, can't withdraw more than $500 per month...excuse me? It's my money. I just started the process of closing my ebay account. Of course it'll take up to 180 days to close...180 days? What the? They close a listing of mine stating that it was copyright infringment without getting any details from me. I had store bought Six Million Dollar Man DVDs listed for sale that had been generated from original VHS (since you can't buy them on DVD, at least in the US). The DVDs were not copies, I purchased them and then decided to sell them. No questions from ebay, they just closed the listing. What a bunch of... okay I'm getting pissed off here so I'll shut up. ebay sucks! Incidentally, I had a similar situation to the article by Mr. Epstein. Only mine was over two cents. Long story but I had ebay fees of $1.37 and for some reason they only charged my CC $1.35. Mine was on an account that had been active for more than two years, so there wasn't any of that "auto payment hasn't kicked in yet" crap. They then proceded to suspend my account. I couldn't get them to charge the 2 cents. I sent numerous emails and even found their business address and sent a snail mail. I couldn't get them to charge the two cents. I had to close my account and reopen it.
ebay cares about nothing but thenselves. http://www.pugster.org/bad-ebay-bad-vero/ Many people thrown away (we are trash to them) by feebay are moving over to ioffer. Not all of it is junk. Many sellers are from the US. You have to weed through the stuff...but than you do at feebay too. There are some many, many fakes there. You just think they are not... beacause it is the almighty feebay. You can't get ripped there....right lol
Give ioffer and some of the other sites a chance buyers.
I've been selling on eBay since 1998, have 2 negs on 5500 positive feedbacks so will be at 99.9% forever! Had to file an NPB report on a non paying bidder (no contact whatsoever, after 8-9 days after end of auction). Bidder paid 2 days later, I mailed item next day, closed NPB, bidder left crummy feedback that brought my detailed ratings down. I emailed bidder and said Hey! That wasn't nice, I did everything right on my end, reminded bidder I hadn't left feedback for them yet. Dumb of me, as I never leave neg FB unless there is NO contact AND no payment, but I was ticked because they were the screwup, and then left retaliatory feedback when I didn't do anything to hurt their rating. Anyway, bidder gets bee up ass, opens another ID (same day as bidder changes 1st ID, both are in Tennessee, new 0 FB ID is suddenly bidding on this user's own auctions), uses it to bid up and pop all my bids on 8 consecutive items before I happen to catch and block them! I cancelled bids, closed the auctions sucessfully to real bidders, reported "fraudulent bidder interferring in auctions" (big no no according to eBay), got an email they'd look into it, then saw the bidder's own auctions go off with the fake new ID "winning" them all, and get immediately relisted! Told eBay about the blatant shill bidding, supposedly they see it as a "serious offense", they emailed that they take it seriously, then emailed me that they had taken care of it, but nothing has changed. Both IDs still functional, didn't even close any of the auctions! So they are full of S**T! I have over 5,000 positive FBs to this bimbo's 130 over 7 years, and she could nail me again with a new ID, so now I have to watch out even more for 0 feedback bidders. Me being the one with good feedback and history that they actually make money off of (15% of every transaction counting huge PayPal chunks) will take the dings probably; with not even a slap on the wrist for the person committing the offenses. So they let the bad guys play for free with no penalties, then suspend the good guys with no explanation??! What the F is up with that? I need to do this business to make the little bit that helps cover my art supplies and pay my rent, but have to be worried that I will get fucked over and kicked off... because of some psycho bitch or who knows what else. I am thinking of going over to Amazon at least for my books, as eBay owns half.com and has destroyed it as well. Google Auctions would be an excellent thing, I would hop on board ASAP!!!!
I went to my eBAY account for the first time in months yesterday and ever since have been wondering what would be a good way to point out to someone that many things are not right.
But really there is no other way to put it other than the way you did in the above title.
The whole experience sucked!
I have since received countless email spams and once again searched and searched without finding an auction that promted me to buy anything.
Too many scams. Too many knockoffs from Shanghai. Too many prices higher than almost anywhere else online!
And what sucked even more than that was remembering that just one or two years ago I had a certain pride in being a part of the eBAY community and maintaining 100%excellent feedback.
What the heck has happened over there? Or maybe a better question is what has not happened!
It's like they have traded substance for sham over there.
Somebody better start making changes and moving in new directions or I am afraid we will see that once great giant collapse.
Very sad to see what was once an innovative company looking so tired and flat these days.
Yes... as much as I hate to say it and for reasons different than what you stated I have to agree with you. Today's eBAY sucks!
iOffer is full of dodgy sellers who either don't send stuff you buy, or try selling illegal items. If you report these things to iOffer, they turn a blind eye and just let it keep happenning.
this board is really taking off. im urging everyone to keep in touch so we can bring ebay to its knees.
I have 7 items listed right now and usually have over 100 listed. they have some sort of restriction on me too for poor customer satisfaction. I have 400 positives with 4 negs. got negs for poor packing(customer says shirt was stuffed in box..thats laughable because shirt was new and in original packaging and has to be ironed anyway..lol) im over 99.1% feedback strong!
I did check on BARGAINLAND and that seller has 90% feedback with a whopping 25,000 negatives. its funny at first until you realize they can do what they want with no restrictions and we get fukd at every turn. I can pay the fees while they restrict me. its cut throat and damaging to any seller and they are squeezing out us small sellers so that big players only get ebay platform. get ready to fight these suckers and they will be exposed to the world they are devil. I am forming a myspace page on their asses so join me to bring them down. I urge amazon and google to help us with easier format to sell. someone who appreciates us.
We used to sell on eBay (evilbay). The fees have gotten to a staggering point in which it just does not make sense unless it is easy to sell. Last month eBay did away with the easy listing of the old forms. There was nothing wrong with them. Now the flow of the new form is garbage. They wasted thier time and we will do our best to not sell on eBay anymore. HINT HINT If someone where to set up an auction service that was based on the old forms and have it secure they would make a killing...
Yeah, about that. I too sold an item on ebay, shipped it DHL, confirmed the customers address with DHL. DHL could not deliver because she was not home. I spoke directly to the Driver who make 3 attempts and left notes with his Cell NUMBER! She left me a negative feedback and said that I Ripped her off. I refunded her money and offered proof to Ebay regarding DHL. The only thing Ebay was interested in was her refund, they dont give a horses ass about my feedback. FUCK EBAY!
always get yr money out of paypal as soon as possible. if they ever suspend yr account you better run for yr life because you will send out the items and they will freeze yr account. you will be out of the money and the product. screwed like the rest of us. Paypal has over $5,000 of my money right now and wont release. disaster in my bank account and my life. They even suspended my girlfriends account and my cousins and billed them for any supposed outstanding fees and collections fees. its a disaster and I hate them both ebay/paypal . any lawsuits please leave email. im ready and willing.
Ebay customer service is non existent. you will get a form letter in a canned response when something goes wrong and it will you are EFFED! If they suspend you and ask you for more information to get reinstated you never will. if they ask for yr credit card info etc..it is for them to protect themselves from you. they will never turn your account on again. always delete your cookies on your computer because thats how they track you if you use another id. if they associate your name, same address, credit card, your wife, anyone with same last name, or anything close they will suspend any account you open. if you open another account just to make some money from all the money the froze from you just lets someone you know open another account and use a name unlike yours and never use same bank accounts or credit cards.
Ebay really needs to die. I have over 300 feedbacks on ebay. Yet I have been restricted from selling more than 10 items at a time. I normally have 50-100 items listed. they claim we are bottom 2% of all ebay listings. thats bull because just check id Bargainland and other names on ebay that has thousands of negatives. Look up seller id BARGAINLAND and laugh at how many negatives they have (24,000 at last count). they have no restrictions or anything and my feedback is better but I have restrictions. its a joke.they can do what they want and GET AWAY WITH IT. EBAY Sells their souls to sellers that pay most fees. they harass us smaller sellers. ebay is going to die. Google please create a similar system so we can show ebay they cant do this to people. paypal is another story. at last count paypal has frozen over $4000 from us that we cannot get out of the bank.. thats over four thousand dollars frozen and who can help us? God himself has to get in on this one. Ebay/paypal is a mess. Amazon is better and amazon puts your money directly into your account and so are many other auction sites. They are gaining ground on ebay and ebay will notice loss of revenue very soon. please let me know of any lawsuits because im all in. im a great researcher and I have a lot of horror stories from people that will help the cause. Ebay/paypal is ruining families with their cut-throat tactics. I heard horror stories with over $10,000 frozen in paypal accounts to never get it back. The lawsuits must begin soon against these crooks at ebay/paypal.
Me again, I noticed another post which reminded me of something else. They seem to have a nice scam going where they double charge and mess with the percentages (this pertains to sellers only). Is there anything we can do??? Furthermore, the best revenge is to dump Ebay and use another site. Does anyone have suggestions for me? I specialize in Natural Treatments and Therapies. I sell supplies such as essential oils and rare precious flower oils, herbs, and all natural source items like fixed oils, emollients, butters, soap bases, clays, waxes, oil burners, noveltly items, etc. The main part of my business is ALL NATURAL THERAPIES AND SKIN CARE. I CURE EVERYTHING FROM ACNE TO ANTI-AGING TO PSORIASIS AND ECZEMA USING ALL NATURAL, SAFE INGREDIENTS. I need an auction site that would have a following interested in these typess of things. I BEG YOU ALL, PLEASE HELP ME FIND A PLACE TO AUCTION WHILE I WORK ON MY WEBSITE! I AM A HURRICANE KATRINA VICTIM AND I NEED ALL THE MONEY I CAN GET SINCE I GOT SCREWED BY OUR GOVERNMENT. I welcome any help and suggestions and I will even send you some samples as a thank you gift if you can lead me in the right direction. I am open to any suggestions. Please write, my email follows... ~~~~ JACKIE (NaturesKisses4u@yahoo.com)
EBAY SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello Friend! This sounds IDENTICAL to what I've been going through with Ebay for YEARS. I would have dumped them a long time ago but there is no other site that is as competitive. I use Ebay only to find new customers for my business (which has nothing to do with Ebay) and make a few bucks. They have done to me what they have done to you so I will not reiterate it. They don't even send a warning. They are very quick to shut down your account but then they take a month to get it fixed, if they fix it at all. WE MUST ALL BAND TOGETHER AND SUPPORT ANOTHER AUCTION SITE!!!! ANY SUGGESTIONS? I checked out EBid but it's not that user friendly and I'm not confident that it's getting much exposure. My website is under construction but please email me at NaturesKisses4u@yahoo.com
I welcome anyone who has any ideas.
~Jackie
"You can't complain about the customer service at ebay.....because there isn't any".
Stupidity abounds here! If I didn't know better, I would think the federal government was running the company?!?!?!
One of the best situations I experienced with this site is when they 'suspended' MY account because the so-called high bidder did not pay. I appropriately posted neagative feedback, the buyer claimed I never delivered the item which he never paid for and ebay only fter a dozen or so pleading emails deciided to re-instate my account IF I "promised" not to do it again.... DO WHAT AGAIN???? sell an item on ebay and EXPECT TO BE PAID????
There was about 4 steps they asked me to go thru to "prove" I am me. That's when I decided to take another tact. As they say... you have to fight fire with fire, right?
If anyone has any ways they were able to circumvent all the ridiclous crap and nonsense at ebay.... PLEASE LET ME KNOW!
additional info to my previous message...
once an eBay seller get the very first removal notice with some kind of ridiculous excuses, it is a sign to that seller, "you better watch out..."
>> Ron L. wrote:
>> Ebay & their little bitch Paypal who I hate even more
>> than Ebay are corrupt and should be under investigation.
>> What else is there to say.
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I have to let you know that eBay is corrupt. A friend of mine who is a powerseller told me that if you know somebody who work in eBay, you can enjoy a trouble-free business with only one exception - listing cancelled by VeRO's request.
You know what, eBay people know very well the market, what sells good, what is the profit margin of a particular item. Instead of using their own staff member account to do big business (ebay let them do business to expericence eBay life, but with some kind of restrictions), some corrupt staff members go through 3rd party (his/her friends or relatives)...
If you try to sell something unique, as long as they can be found in the market, within 1 month, you see competitors joined in AND after a while, you start getting harrasments...
Monday: listing removed due to word spamming (whether it's true or not)
Next Saturday: listing removed due to too much shipping fee (whether it's true or not)
Later: due to repeat offence , your account suspended.
In another case, if you try to sell something at a competitive price and affect some "VIP" seller's benefit, you are asking for trouble...
I HAVE BEEN AN ebay MEMBER FOR YEARS.
recently i tried sell a laptop 3 times.
each time the item recieved a flood of spoof emails.
then at end of auction a flood of outrageous bids.
after close of auction ,.ebay cancelled sale,.informing me the winning bidder was a hijacked id.
they also said i couldnt just relist,i would have to start all over each time.
each time i recieved fake email i sent it to security.
automated response from company each time and some not even relevant.
2nd and third time i tried to sell i asked them to watch end of sale for the scammers,.,..nothin no help no reply.
security is asleep at ebay/paypal
scammers wont let me sell laptop,.,..,they keep phishing for
my email info,.,.i think because it relates to paypal account info,.
i think EBAY is doomed,.,.never seen it this bad
bob
Ebay and Paypal both suck. I had repaid a person some money I borrowed from them via Paypal over 2 months ago. Of course, I had an ongoing dispute with a customer over an audio system that they received but claimed was not working. I told them to send system back for a refund but they didn't. I did what paypal asked but the other person got the got the system plus $2000. Now, I am out both. Anyway, because that made my account negative they went back 2 months and took every payment I made to these people back and never put it back into my account and caused their account to go negative and limited both of our accounts. They did nothing wrong and had no complaints whatsoever. Paypal is saying it is like writing a bad check but what bank goes back 2 months or more and reverses funds to clear up a debt that occured today. Then I get my mother in law to foward my friend some money to help cover until paypal decides to release money (if they do decide)from her account (paypal told us to do it this way) and for my friend to hit refund on all these transactions and at least then they would re-instate his account. They did not nor did the refunds show up in my account. My friend called paypal again and of course say that they don't know why we were told that and they they would be keeping the money and we would not be getting this money back (which is illegal and they will be getting sued over this). And, get this, they then limit my mother in laws account. Who has never had a dispute on her account. Then I get up this morning and ebay has suspended her account with them. She has a 100% feedback and had items that need to be shipped today. We cannot get to those items to ship them because we don't know who got what or where it is to go. This now will make things worse because now she is going to look like a fraud because she was paid for the items but can't ship them because she does not have the information and ebay will not help. After I get all this cleared up I will never use paypal or ebay again and will advise others of the same.
I had the same thing happen to my company, But a year later after canceling my account with ebay, I get a thank you for your payment email stateing a 800.00 draft is taken from my bank account.And I no loner used the account. My bank had to do an investigation against ebay to get my money back. Via ebay and paypal. I called both company every day for weeks trying to find out what happened and none of them could tell me anything. After the bank determined that it was ebay.I then got my money back. Ebay is a crappy site
is there any another site like Ebay?????
people, come together to ban eBay, use internet, media. whatever....
life gose up and gose down, u know. I feel that eBay will go to bankcrupt soon. it already failed in japan and China. 2 very big market. eBay deserve it. I wish ebay dispear forever.
my account was suspended for many time for very strange reason. what the f***, my account was suspended again for the same reason. my account was re-activaed after I mail reinstatement application to eBay office. everything looks fine, but this account was suspended for the same f***king reason. What thos motherf***king ebay staff do, they just eat shits.....i just sold several of my stuff, but now nongthing!!! and charge me fees. what a f*****!
There should be a free auction side soon, only charge user when transactions are successfully made. ebay is too greedy. that slut Whiteman should be shoot, death penaty!!! and all of her families!!!
HELLO ALL,I was suspended from ebay+got an employee sacked!!!(aaawww you are throwing flowers thank you lmao)i finally got them to admit to the negative feedback tariff+tell me that mine is a whoppin 1/400th that of a "normal" ebayer
eg-i get 0.1% point for every 400 positives i get in a row-all unique!!!! a complete joke-ALL DESIGNED 2 SCARE THE EBAYER INTO LISTING/BUYING MORE 2 ATTAIN THE 100% F/B.
Anyhoo-i was on the discussion board+some others were asking how on earth you can have 99.7%(how you can have a point something)if you get 1 for pos- -1 for neg+nuffin forneutral,how can there be a point-answer there is a tariff for all under 100%.
the key is the state of account at the time of aqquiring the first negative....
i was suspended pending a 30 day inquiry-no reason-no suspended for what?
i immediately emailed the lady at ebay i had got the info off-no longer employed by ebay-WHY DID THEY TELL ME THAT???Yes i addressed it to: for the attention of ******** ******* having done this before+got the bog standard reply,there was no reason to tell me this at all.only to be the smarmy slug type creech they are (eeeeww lol)
i do know that watchdog(uk)tv program are gathering a file +want as many emails from suspended+disgruntled members.Ebay claim not to be an auction site-therefore the paying members "own" the site+should run it too(TO AN EXTENT)THERE ARE 56 OTHER AUCTION SITES OUT THERE-IF AS THE SITES SAY THERE ARE OVER 100.000 SUSPENDED WORLDWIDE-THEN THERES SOMEWHERE TO GO.NOT SURE IF U CAN LINK HERE DUNT WANNA GET TOLD ORF BUT GOOGLE ONLINE AUCTIONS+YOULL GET A LIST.
QUESTION:
HOW MANY BLOGGERS THINK THAT EBAY HAVE A NICE PLUSH OFFICE WITH ROWS OF PC`S+PERFECT TRACEYS AT SAID PC`S,READY TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS OF THE 10 MILLION(YEH RIGHT) EBAY MEMBERS???
HOW MANY BLOGGERS THINK THAT THE PRE WRITTEN GARBAGE REPLY YOU GET FROM YOUR HARD WRITTEN EMAIL TO EBAY,COMES FROM SOMEONE LIKE YOU?? SAT AT HOME AN "EBAYER" ??
EBAY HAVE AN ORROFICE (SORRY) IN CALIFORNIA+PAYPAL IN IRELAND+SHORTLY LUXEMBOURG-BOTH BANK IN THE ISLE OF MAN!!(YET THEY CHARGE VAT+12 P FER A LOUSY PIC(USE AUCTIVA IF U R ON EBAY ITS FREE).THERE IS NO REGISTERED OFFICE IN ENGLAND.SIMPLE FACT IS ID BE 2 SCARED 2 USE MY ACCOUNT NOW LOL
ONE THING-THERE ARE A PLETHORA OF SADDOS WHO CLAIM TO GET YOU ON EBAY NO PROBS-THERE ARE ONE OR TWO GOOD ONES-BUT NOTHIN IS FOOLPROOF,THE AUCTION HELP IS GOOD+THERE IS A USA ONE THAT HAS DIFFERENT RATES FOR DIFFERENT LEVELS-PAYPAL VERIFIED/START WITH+FEEDBACK ETC ETC these are ok but require diligence +track covereing.the only real mystery is with sooooo many bad ebay stories people are too lazy to look elsewhere-i mean u dont buy a stereo in morlings do ya? u dont buy drugs from boot!! have fun peeps :)
Here is a nice one for you,
We purchased large quantity of RL Polo shirts from one of eBay's power sellers, who lists daily and sells the same shirts on Ebay. So, what do you know...Ebay suspended my account stating "abusing eBay" treating me like a criminal. And....charging fees they never provided service for. Listen eBay, you will see my money when you see your AH without a mirror.
Fact: more than 95% of all clothes and accessories sold on ebay are FAKES. Ebay is now considered the biggest market of counterfeited goods. Anyone who sales large quantities of NWT items is knowingly sells (with Ebay's ble$$ing) counterfeits. Ebay would have never become the giant that they are without this fake market!!!
I heard a horror story about someone who sold a late model foreign car transmission on eBay for about $3,000 to a buyer in "As-Is" condition and the buyer simply filed a dispute and said there was some kind of problem with it AFTER payment was made through Pay Pal. Pay Pal then seized the money right back out of the sellers bank account. Now the buyer STILL HAS possession of the transmission (because the buyer refused to ship it back to the seller), the buyer ALSO HAS his original money back, so the seller has NO transmission to re-sell and NO money for it either. Yes I'd say eBay AND PayPal REALLY SUCK. It's the wonder anyone would ever do ANY business with either one of them at all. I know I am 100% done even though I've never been ripped off yet and this way I never will. :)
CLASS ACTION SUIT TIME
All I have to say is I was a member for 7 years with over 4000 feedbacks and a 99.8% seller rating. I was kicked out permanently and I am left wondering what I did. Customer service? power seller account manager? ... Yup, worthless! ........ Ebay & their little bitch Paypal who I hate even more than Ebay are corrupt and should be under investigation. What else is there to say. Google auctions! Please!!!!!!
You bet Ebay sucks!! I have been customer service for 6 years, and my companies would have been shut down with such non-existent customer service. I cannot get a hold of a live person at Ebay to explain my situation. I do not have time for endless e-mails, I want to speak with a live person. I did a buy-it-now, and the vendor would not accept my valid credit card; I only have one. The transaction was never completed, so I went to a different vendor and my credit card info. went right through. I was told to send an e-mail to the other vendor who claims I owe them money explaining everything and they never responded. Now Ebay has given me an unpaid item strike! SCREW THEM!! I will NEVER use Ebay for anything ever again. My credit is excellent and I don't need their lying bullshit!!!
i am leaving ebay cos they are crooks, big time.
ebay are totally dishonest and i implore them to call me to court so i can show the entire world of simple, honest, would be , duckers, divers and traders whata big bunch ofshisters they really are. yes , ebay , pick up the challenge and lets go goliath cos david iswaiting to slay you. its all on record, and masses of it.sadbunch of shisters!!!!john and going elsewhere
wheredo you want me to begin. i haveso much "held on record" evidence of collusion , shiling , and other various nefarious offences against ebay and "governmentauctions", (usa).i have made many complaints to ebay, most of which were"sort of answered".. i venture to suggest that ebay arein collusion, profiting and generally rigging the wholeset up. iam prepared to give anyone the prima facia evidence in the hopethat they will "kick arse". do the worlda favourand free us of theseparasites.
john
Ebay sucks, period! I have been selling on ebay for sometime and they've done every possible unfair things to me hiding in the "ebay policy" veil. My account has been suspend, restricted, watched numerous times. But because I've done nothing wrong, it is always reinstated. But of course I've lost business in the days, months they suspended me. All the suspension reasons they can think of they did to me. EVIL!
Suspend due to late fees - even though I have PayPal autopay
Circumventions of ebay fees - wtf? my pictures have my websites logo to prevent photo theft!
And now I am restricted because of seller non perfomance policy. What?
Basically I was told that my 600+ positive feedback and 99% rating is not good enough. First they tell me that my account is restricted for 14 days. I complained and asked them what the reason is. Because I believe that this non performance policy does not apply to me. All my disputes were opened by me due to non payers! I have not recieve a dispute or complaint from buyers.
The answer I got -automated email! Now they tell me that my account is restricted for 30 days! Sh*T!
I've had it with ebay! I've closed my ebay shop. I've now registered with other auction sites - onlineauction.com , webidz.com , bidorbuy.com and now I've also registred with moneybookers.
Ebay works for you. You pay them. They provide a service. They restrict you? Then they are in breach of contract for not providing the service. Restrict payment. Withhold payment as satisfactory service is not being rendered. Simply withhold payment to ebay until they have, what YOU perceive to be, a better than 95% approval rating. I suggest everyone who is dissatisfied with ebay do this. Who ever heard of a world class company that refuses to give phone support to it general customers? Ebay is not paying you! You are paying them! Again, they work for you!
I have used ebay for two years buying and selling. i even made it up to powerseller. 125 + feedbacks 100% feedback.. They shut me down because of trademark violations. I sold cloths on ebay and have sold hundreds of items never any problems. One day ebay removes all my listings cancels my account and the next day paypal was frozen. They say they are holding my money 180 days to insure they dont have to pay any money back because of my ebay account being shut down. In two days i lost my lively hood with ebay and all my money through paypal. And of course the only thing anyone could say was sorry 180 days. Fuck them I started a new site. www.ebay-sux.com all i need now is a auction site to put there. Anyone know where I can get a auction program cheap?
so here goes, i have this extra vhs tape, band new, dont have a vhs player, think i forgot what they look like. so i decide to sell it real cheap on ebay. lots of guarantees about how safe it is to sell on ebay. poof, item sold, buyer receives the item gives me a good review. hundreds of emails to ebay and hours on hold to ask, where the fuck is my money, nothing, but wait, ebay deducts fees from my paypal account. what the fuck, ebay sucks.
Agree with you guys, ebay is nothing but shit. i recently registered at ebay to buy and sell stuff. Well I bought few things now it was time to sell some and make some money. I went ahead and listed my notebook, every time i list the notebook at the end of listing winning bidder will say "unauthorized used of account" and my listing would get removed, very frustrating i listed my notebook 4 times, still didnt sell same thing. I report the buyers to ebay they say it is very likely that their account got hacked and took no action. then 5th time i listed and bidder saw my new id and tried to scam me i reported him to ebay, still ebay took no action instead, they suspended my account. That was surprise, i log in and here is the message i get "your eBay account has been suspended. eBay took this action after determining that your account was acting inconsistently with the letter or spirit of our policies.
You are prohibited from using eBay in any way. This includes using another existing account or registering a new account."
Now i dont know what is reason they suspended my account for? I tried emailing the "trust and safety" no response. I bought item worth $450 and paid for it, and ebay takes absolutely no action in helping completing the transaction. I have my fingers crossed, that i will get the item. I think we should stop using ebay and start using sites such as ubid. or any other. EBAY SUCKS!
Same story as yours. I ask you this, though. I go the the gas station and use my Pay)al card and it is posted to my account before I get home, but ePAY customer service says it takes 10 days to get a change made.
I say screw 'um. I was selling a line of tradsman/contractor tools and my sales were just starting to take off when they suspended me after attempting 2-unaUTHORIZED automatic payments from our bank account...You see I never signed up for automatic payments at all and had them remove the "auto ay" twice but this last time was the charm.
I am now selling directly to distributers and am also looking for a ossible better auction site.
e-Pay S-U-C-K-S with a capital sucks!!!!
Steve in Cleveland
I reported fraud against one of ebay's sellers. Ebay's "powerseller club" contacted me with the usual, canned, "Your report is importiant to us", BS. This was the first I knew this seller was a "powerseller". When I looked up "powerseller" on Ebay, To my horror I find, powersellers are allowed to get by with fraud 4 times in a 60 day period. That's only if they get caught and the charge proven. So, this seller could do the same to me 100's of times before anything actually done about it. Unbelievable!
I have used Ebay from several years without any problems like you have had. The only thing that they did to me was MAKE ME sign up for PayPal. I did this by giving them a bank account number that has $100 in it and then "FROZE" the account so there will be $100 in there until I stop using Ebay. PalPal is total bullshit!!!
Hello,
I'm glad I found this site, it's the first site to come up when you Google "Ebay Sucks"!
I have been a member of ebay since 1997, and today my account was suspended because I broke a rule that is new...I know, Happy 10 Year Anniversary! It was not a rule in 1997 when I joined.
They suspended my account for 2 weeks, ok, no big deal. The problem is that they canceled all of my listings (half of which were auctions and half fixed price) and did not refund my listing fees. Then they immediately turned around and INVITED me to list some fixed price auctions of which they had just canceled. In essence, getting 2 listing fees for each of these items, had I relisted them today. I said no thanks.
This is nothing more than theft. I pleaded my case saying it was a first time violation, but I have not heard back from them. Also, my husbands account was also suspended because we are related. Huh?? This makes no sense. So anyway, both of our accounts are suspended and they have taken fees for which they are not performing a service. I have changed my method of payment from Paypal to my credit card and plan to dispute their next charge.
What's another auction site, I'm ready to join!
You think your .08c is bad then maybe I shouldn't be so annoyed over .02c. I had paid them through paypal and because paypal holds funds for 10 days ebay charges another .02c while the funds are being held. I told them when I paid I paid the amount on the invoice and since you guys own paypal you already have my payment. The email I get back from customer service says they understand I am trying to make a payment and gives instructions on how to make a payment. Again I repeated my story. Again they send me the same email telling me how to make a payment. Last 2 emails I have asked if anyone on their staff reads or understands English ... obviously not a question they can answer as I haven't had any reply. Ebay's service is horrible and paypals is no better at all.
I had sold something on ebay once and put a tracking number on the item. Needless to say the item got stuck in a sorting station. After a couple of weeks the person that bought complained they didn't get the package so paypal just took the money out of my account and gave it back to them although I could prove it had been mailed and the post office said it was probably delivered but the postman forgot to scan on delivery. Since paypal was so quick to give the person their money back the post office couldn't get any answer from that person on whether they had taken delivery or not. After a lot of hassle I finally did get my money from the post office but how does paypal have a right to just debit your account.
Someone earlier suggested google have an online auction site. I second that suggestion totally. Ebay and Paypal are both scam companies.
inside eBay is very corrupted,
two years ago, well, i believe there were few guys inside eBay UK try to shut my business down because i was one of the very few sellers selling authentic items of a particular interest at that time.. it seems to me that those selling fakes have some kind of connection to some corrupted eBay internal staff members... to make my story short...
i got one of my item removed by Vero..
later i contacted the Vero and get an apologized email from them. they also notified ebay UK to request reinstatement of my listing and removed any black mark on my account..
ok, i got two emails from Vero, one is direct to me, one is to eBay UK cc copy to me...
45 min later, i get an email from eBay UK staff member A, saying that i may now relist the removed listing and sorry for the mistake blah blah blah..
to double confirm this, i send a seperate email to eBay UK, now staff member B replied me, saying, they never receive anything from Vero...
i try to email back twice...
staff member C replied, and threatening me if i get a complained from Vero again, they will shut me down forever..
i did relist my item and then never get removed because Vero didn't complain... however, my a/c was still suspended for another ridiculous reason..
i got my decent job now and i don't do ebay anymore..
I have more strange experience with eBay. I signed up on 19 Apr. 2007, buy one item and then on 9 May 2007, suddenly my account was suspended by eBay with reason that I was "Abusing eBay" But they didn't mention what's my faults. So, I asked eBay to mention waht's my actions that triggerred eBay to suspend my account. They never tell me my faults. I'm sure I'm doing nothing wrong or against the User Agreement. They say first that I sent SPAM. When I asked them which of my messages was SPAM, they answered that "We did not say that you are doing anything wrong". Even, they said "I hope you can appreciate the fact that we cannot tell you exactly what our internal policies are and what triggered us to temporarily suspend access to your account." Very good, eh? I asked them repeatedly to tell me what's my faults. And they answered repeatedly that "please understand that the exact criteria used to
take action on eBay accounts are proprietary in nature and can not be discussed due to security concerns." So, they can not tell me what's my faults. They only hide behind their internal policies and can not discussed it due to security concerns. Very smart, eh? But I'm still asked them the same question. One day, one Customer Service of eBay even answered: "As you may know, eBay is taking a tougher stand to prevent fraud on our site." So, this time they think I was doing FRAUD, so they suspend my account! Terrific.
Since the suspension, I can not doing anything in eBay. So, I asked the eBay CS to close my account because it's useless. And one CS reply: The eBay account in question is
currently under suspension. Until this matter is resolved, your account must remain open, albeit in a state of suspension.
So, they hang my account on the cloud!
Fyi, they asked me that if I want my account to be reinstatement, they asked me to fax them both of
the following:
- *Completed* Request for Reinstatement form (To be processed, the form
must include the User ID and email address of the suspended account that
you're appealing, as well as a working phone number.)
- Copy of your driver's license or other government issued ID with your
name and address clearly visible
Also include *one* of the following:
- Copy of a recent credit card statement (copy of the actual credit card
is not acceptable)
- Copy of a recent bank statement
- Copy of a recent utility bill.
This is of course crazy request! I kive in Idonesia and they asked me to fax so many document to US! It's very costly.
My purchase of one item was paid successfully and already debted by the bank that issued the credit card and I already paid it. Although I used my brother credit card, there is no claim of the payment and I used the credit card for purchasing books, CD Audio and/or DVDs from Amazon and other online shops for years without any problems or claims.
So, better avoid eBay and buy the items sold in eBay from other online shops. It's more secure and trouble-free.
If you think that selling in ebay , think again. I got loads of products, so i think i would sell them on ebay, hey i just realize that paypal and ebay are one same company. How in the world payment processor and auction sites be in the same company? Must be a scam!
I tried to list on ebay, but we need paypal for the job. you know being outside on US makes it getting paypal verified hard to do. Adding funds was a pain in the a@@ and paypal fax processing to get verified was to bloody long. At last ,you know what i get , well, a letter by paypal saying my fax document was illigible, bah!
You know how much waiting to get verified, bloody too long.
because paypal sucks, ebay also sucks!
Forget about ebay pls, were better using other auction sites!
Again and again eBay will cancel my items saying that I have gone against their policy titled "Circumvention of eBay Fees". My shipping was too high according to them, at $15.00, even thought UPS charges me $9.26, plus I have the cost of the box, packing supplies, my time, and gas used to get the box to UPS. EBay will not respond to my emails. This is just a scam as they do not give my listing money back after they end my auctions. I am ready for Google to bury eBay under a mountain.
Ever check out Sleezbay's stocks? HAHAHA $31 and some change. Google stocks....$515.00...open an online auction house GOOGLE!!
Fact: more than 95% of all clothes and accessories sold on ebay are FAKES. Ebay is now considered the biggest market of counterfeited goods. Anyone who sales large quantities of NWT items is knowingly sells (with Ebay's ble$$ing) counterfeits. Ebay would have never become the giant that they are without this fake market, Mother Teresa tries to tell us that her s---t does not smell (sorry Ms. T). I'll give them 3F's Fake, phony and fraud!!!
Hello,
I would like to say that I have had a Wholesale business for 7 years under my belt and 10 more years with my Father.
I have tried to sell on Ebay for the last 10 years and find that they are very Controlling- Monopolized and are a Fraud.
I have been kicked off of Ebay now atleast two or more times for either using a "phrase" or a "picture" of the items I am selling.
The USA is suppose to be the oppurtunity for a person to be independent and forthright to use every ability to succeed- even if you have to borrow or use something similiar.
Ebay must have been formed originally in Russia or China becuase from my experience this company is very communistictly and monopolized- I thought that this type of business practice is illegal in the USA.
I am writing this letter to your company to inform you that I am a legit and legal company that practices freedom to sell and succeed.
Thank you.
J. Anthony Smith
Jas Designs
PO BOX 7831
North Port, Florida 34287
Est: 1999
Anyone wishing to file a class action suit contact us at sales@intautoexchange.com. We were the largest seller of autos on Ebay and have paid about 1 million in fees! They suspended us on a whim. We are the perfect lead for a class action suit and have located a very high powered attorney willing to take the case. Please write us.
Gary
I was booted from ebay last month- I had over 13,000 + feedback and did over $1,000,000 is sales US every year.
I had 99 % positive feedback.
I had a second account with 300 feedback- and it was only 96% positive- I got 5 disputes in this tiny account while I was on vacation.
When I come back my small account with 300 feedback is shut down. I notice this and was a little peeved but get over it as I have an account with 13,000 feedback I do most of my business on.
2 weeks later my 13,000 + feedback account is shut down for being associated with the other one.
I called ebay and they told me I should not have neglected those customers- I told them I agree and apologized- and told them it would not happen again.
They would not let my $1,000,000 a year account back on.
Can you belive that- I have been with ebay before they even charged fees- since 1995.
So obviously my business is dependant on ebay and I am stuck, so my wife to set up an account and start from feedback zero again.
I built the feedback up to 300 + feedback in 2 weeks- 100% positive. Then I get booted off for being associated with my other accounts.
I belive ebay is storing the IP addresses of cancelled accounts to make sure that new accounts do not get set up.
---> I am certain of this because now when I go to the myebay part of my account my computer states warning if you click here your identity information can be stolen- it had never said that before!
So I am down and out again.
Can you belive that.
I have lost over $100,000 in sales the last 45 days and have talked to everyone I can at ebay and they are not interested in helping.
I am interested in filing a lawsuit now if anyone can let me on the bandwagon I will join.
I have never been so screwed by a company in my life! BEWARE!
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I was a member of ebay until a few months ago. I had 100+ feedback and it was 100% positive. I sold two items that were "restricted intellectual property" that I didn't know I should not sell, and they suspended my account for it. So, I made an appeal, and they basically said sorry but we don't believe you. So I made another account. Had about 20 feedback going, 100% positive, not selling any of those "intellectual property" items anymore. Suspended that account after a month.
Then, my mom made an account because she had some stuff that she wanted to sell. Her account was suspended shortly after because it was "related to another suspended user".
And with paypal, I was scammed $70 from someone on ebay who I had bought a 512MB stick of RAM from, and I filed a report with paypal two weeks after I had got no replies from the seller. They said they couldn't refund my money because the seller didn't have $70 in his paypal balance to pay me back with.
Ebay, and paypal, suck. Period.
I think that all this is possible due to ebay monopoly, even if things are changing a bit in this warm year :) in fact many people (unsatisfied like me) is moving to other bid's sites, such as for example the really good ebid.net in which I feel like a fish in the water.
But above all I totally disagree with the highest fees on market adopted by paypal (always ebay property) and the fact that on ebay different way of payment aren't really welcome.
I've to underline 2 services in substitution of the absurd paypal, they are moneybookers and pppay. Really good alternatives, also because they offer the escrow service, that paypal misses of course.
Only unsatisfied people can change things, so let's hope in more and more unsatisfied people leaving ebay streets and pheraps they will realize.
Bye,
Davide
I guess I'm joining the club of unsatisfied and ready to blow EBay headquarters.
They limited my paypal account(as usual they haven't giving me an answer)they cancel some of my auctions,they sent me to authenticate stuff(oh so conveniently to their chosen companies that are probably in conjunction with them).
Does anybody know who's the big cheese in there?is this guy? billcobb@ebay.com.
Why don't we start a class action law suit?
We have to make EBay come down hard.
I know how you feel, being a member of Ebay is a never ending bad and frustrating experience. I personally do not believe that they answer letters through real people, because they always ignore the real issue. What I believe is that their replies are computergenerated. The computer picks some key-words from your letter and some automatic replies come up. The Sophia's, Sam's and what ever their names are do not exist, that's why one never get's satisfaction and why they are so ignorant.
I have been a member since March and lately they just thrown my listings out without warning, because they say I listed in the wrong categories, which I didn't; but they are very vague. They just want people to be confused so they list in multiple categories just to be sure, and Ebay makes more money. They even warned me to kick me out if I do it again, but they don't tell me excactly where to list it. I pay them about $150 on fees a month and they treat me like shit. They are earning big bucks through us but treat us like dirt. I think they need some serious competition to teach them to value their customers and treat them with respect.
What Paypal concerns I agree totally. Now they want people to use Paypal and warn them that they otherwise are not protected any more. What do you call that? I was a Paypal member until money just disappeared. I will never ever use Paypal again. Cheerio
Hello all, I'm a new suspended user of ebay. The sad thing about this suspension is they can't tell you the specific information as to why your account got suspended. I tried to appeal the suspension but Mr. Chesnut said there's nothing they can do about it. My account will remain suspended indefinitely (permanently). I'm a power seller with 100% feedback with no negative or neutral. Reason of suspension: associated with another suspended user. It come to my attention that Google will start its own auction. I really can't wait that time. Ebay needs competition. If we'll support Google auction, it would be the fall of ebay. There are lots of ebay users who are no longer happy due to their high fees. Poor customer support with no cotact numbers. Judging you for something you haven't done.
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Not a bad site... Id like to them put the evil giant out of business... If you need support you can speak to someone on the phone... Great concept...PHONE SUPPORT!!!!
Hi there just a addition to the other comments.. yes ebay is absolutely rubbish...totalitarian ... does not respond to e-mails (sent 5 no reply) and the fees are extortionate!!! try www.ebid.net much cheaper and friendlier
cheers
I just closed my Ebay account and reading through the other postings I see my experience was not new.
It was a succession of "cut and paste" email responses that didn't even APPLY to my issues or applied to a VERY SMALL piece of a very complex series of problems.
Then, after 17 emails from 17 different "customer service" reps my tone was reprimanded and I was given instructions on how to make it easier to help me.
Instructions like:
"include item number" - I did
"include name"- I did
"include user name"- I had-
you get the picture...
they just give you the run-around hoping you will give up-
I am thoroughly disgusted and after over 110 purchases and a stellar feedback rating I shut my account tonight-
ebay customer service sucks from the consumer side as well. The worst piece is that I believe that all users' personal data to include credit card details and other personal information may be at risk.
eBay has yet to help me understand why or fix the issue, but they continually send me information in German. When I was forced in through the German web site when clicking a link from ebay spam in German I was asked to change my password.
Again I am not sure why, but with one acct I had two different passwords that could get me in to their systems. Sometimes one worked sometimes the other. Either way that shouldn't be the case and it sounds like their systems of record aren't syncing real-time and there are windows of time when one acct can have multiple passwords and ebay allows it.
eBay hasn't responded after numerous emails sent and the account closure process only provides acct closure methods that are positive towards ebay. All in all extremely poor customer support and it looks like their systems are not so secure.
With credit card numbers at risk and the security breaches at big retailers and financial institutions by fraudsters in search of key personal information, ebay's lack of attentiveness to something as important as user acct IDs and passwords is extremely worrisome.
Anybody know any journalists that may be interested in hearing about this story?
If so please contact: noncompliant@hotmail.com
I am an Ebay member since 1999 and purchased about 100 items without a single problem, now retired I decided to supplement my income by selling on Ebay,
Ebay emailed me regularly soliciting me to become a seller on their site.
Did some research and was able to connect with a legitimate wholesaler that sales product to some mega sellers on Ebay. With $5,000 worth of inventory, I was set and ready to go. Within 2 weeks Ebay suspended me "Because you have continued to list potentially infringing items on eBay, we suspended your account indefinitely". Also Ebay verified that no VeRO complain filed against me. Now Ebay is also an expert and can suspend any one just by looking at a picture. Where can I go to seek justice? I am so sick of Ebay.